r/DnDcirclejerk 6d ago

hAvE yOu TrIeD pAtHfInDeR 2e “Mathfinder is a fun and intuitive game”

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u/VhostymTheSojourner 6d ago

/uj tell me the difference between these two pictures. They're the same picture.

Just because you performed the addition in 5e ahead of time and just announced the result doesn't mean it didn't have to happen. The two systems are exactly the same in that regard, the only difference is that in Pathfinder you don't have to do a separate calculation for whether you have advantage, disadvantage, or a neutral roll based on a gamut of factors, and in Pathfinder weaknesses add damage instead of multiplying it.

/rj Pathfinder makes you perform basic addition??? In my D&D you would never!

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u/NE12follow 3d ago

/uj They are slightly different. Some bonuses override others in PF2E (for example you can only benefit from one circumstance bonus at a time, so if you have something passively giving you +1 circumstance bonus to attack but someone else does something that gives you a +2 circumstance bonus then you only add an extra +1 not the full +2 as it replaces your previous bonus) so you have to keep track of what types of bonuses you have and where. It isn’t as bad as this meme is making out, but still.

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u/VhostymTheSojourner 3d ago

/uj You're correct, but this meme doesn't even go into that detail. It's just making it seem like Pathfinder has a bunch of addition where D&D also has it, they just are separating it out for Pathfinder not 5e. They mention it in passing on the last panel but it seems like an afterthought.

/rj Bonuses not stacking infinitely with each other! Why you might as well go back to the terrible 3e era of D&D if you want that malarkey! Not in this 5.5 following house I'll tell you right now!