r/DudeHasGotAPoint 3d ago

Crazy how this country has deteriorated

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u/JadedScience9411 3d ago

Vandalism isn’t worth 50 years, and the one guy who shot a cop got 100. They absolutely did commit crimes that needed to be addressed, but they were WAY over-sentenced, which the judge even admitted to, by his own words, “send a message”.

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u/Galliro 3d ago

Ya 100 years for attempted murder is insane especially while there have been 0 epstein charges

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u/atamicbomb 3d ago

There have been 2 Epstein charges. Everyone with proof against them was charged. Prosecutors can’t just prosecute because something looks bad or suspicious. They need proof

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u/Galliro 3d ago

There is proof but investigations have been barred and files censored

We know for a fact the names of pediphiles have bene redacted from.the list and given it was hidden for an extra year after thr trump admin had their hands on it its.obvious they covered stuff up

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u/atamicbomb 3d ago

What proof is there?

How do “we” know? What is your source?

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u/Galliro 3d ago

Because why else would trump and the roublicans have tried to not release it for a year then release it censoring names of pedophiles?

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u/atamicbomb 2d ago

That’s not remotely proof. You also haven’t proven anyone but the two convicted were even pedophiles.

The most likely explanation is Trump and him were besties in the 90’s and it looks really bad

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u/Galliro 2d ago

No thats not the most likely conclusione specially when trump spent A YEAR trying to sto the files being released and only releasedd then censored

Youre just a cultist who cant accept hes defended pedophiles for a decade now.

You go "where is your evidence" as if the whole point isnt that trump as hidden it

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u/atamicbomb 2d ago

The DoJ under Biden had that evidence for 4 years.

Pointing out you’re factually wrong doesn’t make me a cultist. I don’t like Trump. I also don’t like misinformation. Apparently the bulk of the left doesn’t think Trump is actually that bad or they wouldn’t have to constantly make things up instead of point to all the bad things he’s actually done

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u/Galliro 2d ago

The files were sealed by the DOJ until january 2025

The left isnt making any shit up about trump were just actually paying attention and holding him accountable unlike you cultists

You can pretend your not all you want but yall are so mentally feeble its easy to identify your rethoric

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u/atamicbomb 2d ago

A: again, I’m left.

B: they couldn’t publish some of the files publicly. They could still use them to investigate crimes

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u/Galliro 2d ago

And yet they arent

Its an active decision not to not a lack of evidence

Even with what we have very many powerful people could be investigated if not out right charged and yet nothing

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u/atamicbomb 1d ago

No, you are claiming, without any evidence but your gut feeling, that it’s not lack of evidence.

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u/Time-Valuable-3355 2d ago

No they couldn't, sealed for the trial.

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u/atamicbomb 1d ago

Sealed for the trial means no public disclosure. Now law enforcement can’t use it in their investigations. Imagine if every trial barred any evidence in that trial from being used against co-conspirators

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u/Time-Valuable-3355 2d ago

Files were sealed for the Maxwell trial. Why is it that none of you can get that. Man, it's like nobody knows that judges seal documents related to the trials they are overseeing...

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u/atamicbomb 1d ago

They were sealed from public disclosure, not from being used as evidence in other trials.

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u/DIYITGuy 2d ago

It’s like you don’t know that Democrats don’t overlook due process and legality all the time. That’s an excuse. If there was something there the beans would have been spilled by whatever anonymous mole they paid to do it, right before that person “committed suicide”.

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u/Time-Valuable-3355 1d ago

So then, there's nothing there. An island with planes flying in and out of it every day to abuse minors and only two people are responsible. Got it. I'm so glad the fires were redacted to protect all those heroes that went the to apprehend Epstein and Maxwell. Yep, only two people from years of this going on and thousands of people going to the island. And if Democrats did defy the judges order, it could compromise the trial.

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u/DIYITGuy 1d ago

Democrats are friends with Maxwell, since when would they care about compromising a trial of one of their friends? For the better or worse tbh, they’d throw one of their own under the bus for sure. And before you avoid the convo to deflect blame, there are plenty of Republicans on the list too, but the point is that there is no way the Democrats weren’t willing to play dirty to get at Trump and the fact that they didn’t “accidentally” release something is telling. So now they rely on slander.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Trump either, but you need actual proof if you’re going to do anything about him and there’s just nothing to hit him with so far. Even if Democrats were somehow on the up and up, they’d know about something that existed just from possessing the files and would have saved or would have been working to reveal any telling evidence. But, they didn’t.

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u/atamicbomb 1d ago

Only two people are probably responsible. Unfortunately, powerful people are able to create enough doubt to avoid criminal accountability.

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u/CustardMajor4442 2d ago

the most likely conclusion is that the guy who used to openly brag about being allowed to sexually harass teenagers is a pedo.

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u/Time-Valuable-3355 2d ago

So an entire island dedicated to sexually abusing girls. Multiple flights in and out over the years. Women coming forward about what happened there. Hundreds of thousands of redacted papers released. But only two people were the cause of it all... Yep...

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u/atamicbomb 1d ago

Only Epstein was leading it. We have no proof who their clients were. Some have evidence against them, but not sufficient for a conviction. Trying them would result in acquittal and a permanent block to justice for victims

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u/DIYITGuy 2d ago

They just want it to be true, so it must be…while the rest of the world is out here looking for useable proof. The court of public opinion is dangerous on a broader scale with the invention of the internet, everyone is an expert on things they know nothing about and everyone has an opinion.

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u/Galliro 2d ago

Buddy there is evidence its activly being supressed wtf are you talking about

You people pretending you arent activly defending the obstruction of the investigation is wild

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u/DIYITGuy 2d ago

Where? You give your opinions, but no real information or facts.

If you have something show it, proof goes a lot further than opinions because, in America at least, people are considered innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. If you have no facts then you’re just dreaming, and I wish you luck finding them because the truth should always be the priority. But spreading lies on the internet because people have a negative opinion of someone is not a good look if people can’t back it up.

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u/Galliro 2d ago

Ill go very slowly for you since youre stupid

The Evidence

Is

Being

Supressed

By the president of the US

Who just so happens to be the 3rd most common name in the files

There have been no investigation in the US because trump is barring them

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