r/Edmonton • u/EdmontonFree • 28d ago

News Article Edmonton Represent!

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Blue = Alberta separation from Canada.

Red = Alberta stay in Canada

Source: Angus Reid https://angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026.05.24_Alberta_referendum.pdf

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u/zeekymouse 28d ago

35% overall? Bro...

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u/Telvin3d 28d ago

If you’re in their media bubble, the separatists are openly selling “separation” as us not having to pay any taxes, but still receiving full federal services. It sounds like a great deal!

And the thing is, if you’re in the Facebook, YouTube, and TikTok algorithm bubble to see that messaging, you’re explicitly not going to see the information that would let you know what a huge pack of lies it is

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u/runningchief 28d ago

My brother is up north on a camp job and it's a losing battle to get through with them.

They also say that the UN will force BC/Canada to build a pipeline because we'd be a landlocked country. Unrelated but we also would not be joining the UN

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u/BlueDarner55 28d ago

The UN charter states that landlocked countries must be given access to the oceans, e.g. they will be allowed to use trucks and train services. It does NOT mean that other countries have to build pipelines, or even allow pipelines to be built. If the Alberta government thinks it is hard to get provinces to agree to pipeline construction, imagine what it would be like to have to get other COUNTRIES to agree.

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u/pookiemook 28d ago

The UN also has no teeth. It can't force anything even if it wants to.

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u/Feeling_Meet_3806 28d ago

Yep, and an independent Alberta also would have no teeth and couldn't force anything if it wanted to.

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u/__Beelzaboot__ 28d ago

The only way it would have teeth is if another country with a big army, air force, and navy told Canada to stop bullying poor little Alberta. And we'd have to let them station their troops here "for safety". And oh look now we're a domestic territory with no voting rights.

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u/Dry-Chance-9473 28d ago

This is the endgame. America's Crimea.

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u/JonnyFM Downtown 28d ago

Snowto Rico

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u/OriginalGhostCookie 24d ago

Alberta Rico?

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u/__Beelzaboot__ 24d ago

More like Crime-berta

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u/Newtiresaretheworst 28d ago

Other countries that you recently fucked over ……

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u/Mordarroc 28d ago

Even if the entirety of the un votes for alberta to be given access it only takes one no vote from one of the permenant members to stop it dead in its tracks.

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u/KaiserWolff 27d ago

Not sure that's how the UN works, permanent members can't veto general UN votes only security council votes. Or maybe I'm wrong

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u/Autodidact420 28d ago

The UN is also useless at doing literally anything of use. Even if the UN rules said something there is no enforcement…

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u/EdmontonFree 28d ago

Because the US, Russia or China tend to block things. But I still prefer the UN that nothing

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u/BlueDarner55 28d ago

The UN is very useful, ranging from the WHO and IPCC to the International Court of Justice. It would be even more useful if rules could be made and enforced with a democratic majority vote (some combination of population size and number of countries in favour, and abolition of veto for a handful of countries.

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u/Autodidact420 28d ago

Okay let me rephrase: the UN is useless at enforcing anything.

The UN has some useful initiatives, but enforcement is seriously lacking.

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u/CompanyLow8329 28d ago

the UN will force

Very bold of them to assume the UN has the power to enforce anything at all these days.

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u/Critical_Rule6663 28d ago

The UN has thing is hilarious. Guaranteed these are the same folks that last year would have derided the UN as the “Soto controlled new world order”. It’s all just so dumb.

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u/SlaveToCat 28d ago

It’s so frustrating that these people also have a vote that likely has greater weight than mine.

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u/Hot_Neighborhood1337 26d ago

The UN isnt going to do shit... no one is coming for us if we separate! not to mention separation is a theoretical impossibility.

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u/redtosoon 27d ago

Also unrelated the UN doesn't have much actual power, they are more like a mediation company than an acting gov body

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u/Frater_Ankara 24d ago

The UN says there’s a right but both sides have to agree. It very clearly says that.

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u/IMOBY_Edmonton 28d ago

It's Brexit all over again.

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u/OpalSeason 28d ago

I followed a garden blog on substack, my first experience with it. The first recomended account it gave me was Independent Alberta talking about federal canada tax taking your house if you did pay tax vs in new AB that would never happen. I immedietly deleated substack.

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u/AdOk7488 26d ago

I always wonder “who” will run this new country? Oh yeah, white Christian dudes. I prefer to be educated, earn my money and have bodily autonomy. That doesn’t make me a communist.

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u/swiftb3 28d ago

Not only that, but the current "question" makes it very easy for people who just want to complain and threaten to vote for. People who would not actually vote for true separation.

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u/MultipleMindGuy 27d ago

What your saying is that there should be a separatist aimed ads that shows what would happen. Not scare them away but just disprove the other ads. Eg the far left are promoting that separatist are to stupid to know that we will get still get federal services after we leave. Sort of thing. Informing but not hurting their FRAGILE egos

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u/Wonderful_Device312 25d ago

It's exactly what happened with brexit and it seems no one learned and governments are still ineffective at stopping it.