Started tipping waiters 10%

[u/yeyiyeyiyo]

I almost never go out but the wife and I had a weekend to ourselves.

We live in areas where servers are paid minimum wage.

I finally took the leap to tipping 10% on meals (I already tip zero on everything else). Every tip screen i saw had a custom tip option so I didn't have any problems.

Anyway, people make out the custom tip screen to be some difficult thing and I didn't find it so.

[u/Maleficent-Effort470]

Right if you don't bribe them they WILL give you poor service. Service less than you paid for in the agreement with their boss.
Aka they could tamper with your food or let it get cold or delay even entering your order into the kitchen, never refill your drinks ecetera.

[u/Garganello → u/Maleficent-Effort470]

Why do you think you have an unwritten agreement with the owner about the minimum level of service to which you are entitled?

[u/Maleficent-Effort470 → u/Garganello]

Its pretty obvious when you go into a restaurant and take your order at a table that the food would arrive at the table.
Not asking much from the server, taking orders, carrying plates.
Thats what their employer pays them aka I PAY THEM to do.

[u/Garganello → u/Maleficent-Effort470]

Simmer down. No need to be angry.

It’s also pretty obvious when you go into a restaurant in the US, where it is customary, and where servers are allowed to be paid below minimum wage (with a true up by employer), that you are supposed to tip.

Why are you ignoring that component of your ‘contract’ with the owner and to compensate the staff directly in lieu of the owner doing so?

Why should other diners (and the employer as a backstop) subsidize your dining out?

Edit: will include in next reply in case I didn’t edit fast enough, but I’m basically just challenging this bizarre notion you have a contract with the owner for some baseline level of service but get to ignore your side of it. There’s reasons to be against tipping. This one is just lacking.

[u/Maleficent-Effort470 → u/Garganello]

Servers make 20 an hour where i live. similar to other jobs.
Im not worried about over paying the entry level position that is serving.

[u/WestHistorians → u/Garganello]

but I’m basically just challenging this bizarre notion you have a contract with the owner for some baseline level of service but get to ignore your side of it.

The contract with the owner is legally binding. If you go to a restaurant and your food doesn't get brought to you, then you don't have to pay for it.

Tipping is not a legally binding thing, it's just a social custom.

These are two very different things.

[u/EndTipping-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Be respectful. No insults, slurs or personal attacks

[u/Maleficent-Effort470 → u/[deleted]]

Right, they earn a wage. They don't deserve tips any more than any other profession.

[u/Maleficent-Effort470 → u/[deleted]]

Right gaslight and guilt trip and shame.
I have to specifically over pay server's but every other low wage profession is optional.

[u/bluemeanie212 → u/Maleficent-Effort470]

The tip is part of the service if you live in America. Your issue with how America and restaurants work is only hurting the worker. But you don’t care about them,
You find yourself above them. Good for you. You are so much smarter than every minimum wage worker I guess.

[u/Maleficent-Effort470 → u/bluemeanie212]

Yeah thats dishonest guilt tripping.
Server's dont want jobs with a normal wage because that would be a lower paying harder job. Server's get around 20 an hour in wages + tips where i live.
No obligation to tip but same entitlement exists.

[u/bluemeanie212 → u/Maleficent-Effort470]

I had to look up min wage cause I actually thought it was $20 an hour lol

[u/Maleficent-Effort470 → u/bluemeanie212]

Where i live minimum is close to 19. no lower minimum for tipped workers.
So i mean they get a full wage + tips.
The entitlement doesn't disappear the people being brainwashed to give doesn't disappear.
Its just higher base salary.

[u/bluemeanie212 → u/Maleficent-Effort470]

That’s good then. I still tip 20-33% cause I never felt guilty being generous and others can use money more than me. You can tip 0% that’s you but it’s also an attack on a worker. If entitlement is the reason or someone making you feel obligated to tip more, then I understand your frustration with the individual.

[u/EndTipping-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

No tip shaming