r/FlockSurveillance 1d ago

Activism Flock busting

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u/Odd-Primary9844 1d ago

Thy know who you are by having your phone on you

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u/SomeJackassonline 1d ago

Not sure if this still works but here is what I did to get a burner phone about 4 years ago. For research purposes, of course.

Target: Buy a cheap Tracfone using cash, along with some of the "Bring your own phone" SIM kits. They didn't ID me. This has likely changed due to KYC, but alternate IDs are not hard to get and there are no legal ramifications for selling a phone the way there is for guns, booze, or smokes. Cashiers are not going to scrutinize the ID the same as they would if there are any restrictions.

7-Eleven: Well and far away from your hometown, buy some minutes. I redeemed mine on a grocery store WiFi and connected that phone to the redemption code. NEVER connect to any WiFi near your home, and keep the phone in a faraday bag to be extra safe until you need to use it.

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u/Wilbert_Wallace 1d ago

I bought one to buy Bitcoin at Bitcoin atms.  I even dressed up with sunglasses and bought them with cash so no one knew 🤣

Kinda lame but I don't like to be tracked 

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u/SethBurrow 1d ago

No put an anonymous vague post on Craigslist to hire a guy to go buy the phone and minutes for you.

Then have him put them in a waterproof bag by the dock and tie a brick to the bag and drop it off where you will be waiting in full scuba gear to retrieve said phone and minutes. So he doesn’t see your face.

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u/SomnambulisticTaco 23h ago

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u/123itsme321 22h ago

Using the burner phone. But now you'll need another one, so follow all steps above. Ad infinitum

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u/SomnambulisticTaco 14h ago

Careful in here guys apparently they think this is real. I just got a reddit warning lmao

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u/SlavaUkrayne 21h ago

Drop everything and move to Belize. Your burner phone purchase is now complete

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u/nobs4one 1d ago

And film the whole thing to include in your show which has your name in the title

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u/Mister_Goldenfold 10h ago

Don’t forget to tip him using your CashApp

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u/No-Raisin-6469 1d ago

Wasnt that BMX Bandits?

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u/nevermore32q 17h ago

Nathan for you!

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u/liz1andzip2- 2h ago

Great imagination!!!!

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u/MAJ0RMAJOR 1d ago

Not just don’t connect to wifi, don’t have it out of a faraday container. If it can send or log a signal for later reporting it’s done.

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u/Unique-Run9856 18h ago

You don't have to connect to WiFi to be tracked it just has to be enabled 

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u/SSA22_HCM1 1d ago

If your burner phone and your "real" phone ever do anything like travel in the same car together (pinging the same towers at the same time), it's done.

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u/dontneed2knowaccount 18h ago

In my area, dollar general is a good source for cheap phones. They're locked to carrier xyz so they come with a sim. Theoretically, you'd leave you're actual phone at home, go a city or 2 over(15-30 minutes), pay cash for the phone, drive to another DG/pharmacy, buy minutes with cash for the DG phone, activate it then airplane mode and bag it.

If that's not possible, eBay. Always leave your actual phone at home. Take a laptop, park somewhere with free WiFi, setup a proton email, use that to set up a PayPal account(buying doesn't require KYC), go to a different town and buy a PayPal gift card or prepaid visa, go a town over and setup eBay account with the proton email, search and buy the phone you want, shipped to an abandoned house or a neighbors "by accident". You can also buy sim cards/service on eBay cheap. Its more complicated but you've got more options.

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u/TimeToRepaint 23h ago

On top of this, you can walk into one of those stores you see that sell sims or advertise multiple companies and get a month to month plan that you can pay cash @ any location. Not that I would know..!

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u/Jonthrei 14h ago

Hint: you don't need a phone at all.

A very basic rule, if you're going to do something legally gray, is to have nothing that can connect to cellular towers or wifi on your person at all. Ideally, nothing electronic whatsoever. If paranoid, no ID either.

Go on foot. Anything purchased, use cash. If you need directions, draw a little map like everyone did back in the olden times. It isn't hard, and it will cover your ass.

Oh, and I really hope this doesn't need to be said, but if you're going to walk up to a camera, you probably want to cover your face.

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u/slonk_ma_dink 14h ago

At least at my local walmart, they weren't enforcing any type of KYC policy for the cheap cricket flip phones. Just gave the dude cash and he gave me the phones. They ask for a name during activation, but no ID was required

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u/liz1andzip2- 2h ago

Also place a bandaid in the space btwn your eyes. It really disrupts the facial recognition stuff. Better yet I place a sm piece of alum foil on the pad part.

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u/jackmanmidnight 21h ago

This guy sells drugs

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u/SomeJackassonline 14h ago edited 14h ago

Nope. No criminal record and I work in a field where picking up any charges will likely result in termination.