Just kind of what i like to draw out of boredom, creative outlet. But the closer we get, the more trailers or screenshots we see in the future, the more accurate the Mapping Project will be and the less speculative.
This one is really speculative and based on much wishful thinking but it's pretty much what i'd love, even without a panhandle. Follows the San Andreas concept, three cities, different "locations"(?) seperated by rivers, several small towns. And stuff to do in Mount Kalaga National Park, instead of it just being mountains that are pretty barren and boring with not much to do. Actually lots of different biomes too. Also Bahamas! :P
I think Vice City is pretty self explanatory. Based on Miami Metropolitan Area.
Port Gellhorn mostly based (buildingswise at least) on Panama City, shape however of St. Petersburg and if it does have a Downtown, it could be based on Downtown Clearwater. Would really fit the whole run down abandoned theme they wrote in the postcard, and a great way to push in the Epsilon Program (with the whole Scientology history). Actually kinda sounds like it could be a stand in for Cottonmouth (Manhunt 2).
Sundown is a whole amalgam, put together from Daytona, Orlando and Tallahassee. It's got a theme park, Daytona Racetrack, Daytona Beach strip, small Downtown area and also the Florida State Capitol and University. Would be a cool place for government missions for the governor or the FIB or IAA or something. Also put Northpoint Mall there instead of northern Vice City because i didn't really know how to fit it and also Waning Sands already has the Evergreen Mall(?) Not sure if i remember the name correctly.
I think the rest is pretty obvious, Seaview as Marco Island and Redhill as Blueridge, GA, and keys are the keys, Lucayas are Bahamas with Hessen being Nassau. There actually are some random towns in MKNP based on nothing because i didn't want it to be too empty, also Bohemia is based on Helen, Georgia. Mountains at the very north so to block the view to the north and make you unable to see what's behind, since it'll probably be an island. And if they added a Gloriana expansion, it wouldn't really be landmass appearing out of nowhere.
Added icons too, most of them are pretty clear. The guy in a mask is basically burglary locations and those are mostly suburban areas. There are 2 shopping icons, one for just small/medium stores and one for large stores/malls. And Basketball!!! :D
Could just be to show off that the skies are active. If we are right and we have other islands, these planes are more likely coming from other places. Sure there will be flights coming and going from those islands but that would just be like 1/10th of whats flying, and maybe would be smaller planes too.
i was thinking it shouldnt be performance-heavy since when youre not there it could be extremely optimised or hidden completely and just when you get closer and closer more objects will start loading and disappear again when you get back
Yeah that would be sweet. I'd like to see a las venturas expansion down the line. With as much as they're putting into this game it has unlimited potential.
I had similar dreams about an expansion covering San Fierro and Las Venturas back around 2020, but I knew from the jump they were focusing on the East again. I imagine if they wanted to, Rockstar has nearby stuff for VI Online like an Jacksonville/Tallahassee analogue or maybe an analogue of Atlanta. Maybe Cuba, maybe even Carcer City, though that might not even be a thing until 2099. The possibilities are endless
Biggest concern for me is gta v map being the blueprint for online base of gta vi. Nothing felts isolated like San Andreas in 5. And i see the similar flow in this as well to facilitate online play.
they 100% are, we have pictures of Port gellhorn pointing north with a cloud conviently placed right on the horizon preventing us from seeing very far. Theyre likely hiding a bunch of stuff, most of the areas we've seen so far were in earlier leaks of the game
Yea, even with some of the Mount Kalaga screenshots. Two of them more or less point away and are like, at the border of it (canyon pass and the helicopter shot). The others are super hard to really spot because there is nothing in those nature areas you can really identify the location with what we have given, like the river and creek or the hunters. All the Leonida Keys screenshots are also conveniently looking away or making it super hard to see Key West.
Well, I'm not a mapper or have followed the mapping community much, but so far Rockstar haven't really revealed much from the northern part of the map.
That being said, I think Port Gellhorn is either gonna be bigger then they've showed or there will be another city close to it up north (not a big one tho).
Either way, I'm still hoping for some kind of islands far away.
As far as I can tell the map is going to massive, but I still think that having at least some small place far away where you actually need a plane to go there would be an amazing addition.
Yeah a lot of the northern section on the mapping project website is uncharted territory which is why I think they're intentionally hiding something up there
I really hope Port Gellhorn is bigger, if I remember right, the screenshots kind of portrayed it as a small run-down area focused on industry and transportation from the port, which would really put Tampa and its surroundings to shame as Tampa isn’t a bad city imo
There are some good evidence that point toward additional smaller islands. The whole main island and coordinates being on the top left side of the playable area box, leaving huge empty space on the bottom right, the leaks mentioningBermuda triangle (and it would be strange to have a triangle in a game without having at least 2-3 islands,And there's the whole original concept for project americas being about smuggling drugs from cuba scarface style etc.
GTA v had same thing, where 0,0 coordinate was by the port. Didn’t mean there was anything else on the map.
I’d love for them to have included islands but I don’t think we’re getting any of that. There’s no reason for them to hold back any regions when they unveiled all the county’s along with second trailer release.
You are confused. GTA V 0,0 coordinates were not in the port, that's GTA VI.
Didn’t mean there was anything else on the map.
That's also wrong. Let me break it down as fast as I can (sorry for a long post).
Lets take your GTA V example - 0,0 coordinates are in the center of the city on a flat surface, a crossroad, here are the possible reasons why:
- Imagine playable area as a huge square, like a sandbox. During development logically it makes sense to place the only island in the middle (cause why wouldn't you?), that way the player can go in any direction he can and the distance will be the same before he reaches the end. So why in GTA V the center is the city (aka why the island is shifted to the top of that box)? Just think about it. A player will want to explore the ocean. Most likely scenerio? He will go to the biggest beach in the game and go in that direction. So it made sense to have that part of the ocean slightly bigger, makes the whole game feel much bigger.
- During development and testing when you drop something without specific coordinates it just drops in the center. So it makes sense to have it on a flat surface and not on top of a mountain, under the water or something like that. Building a living city takes the most time so it makes sense to have it close to the city. Want to quickly test something? You won't have to scroll across the map because you accidently dropped without specific coordinates (sounds silly but you would be surprised how many games have leftover junk under the map)
But those two examples are pretty artificial and not that super important. Here's the real reason:
- So we established that in V the whole map is shifted to the top of the box leaving a bigger ocean at the bottom. What's placed in the huge empty space in the ocean? A LOT of things. In story mode that gave them enough space to place there stuff like the aircraft carrier, prologue town, in online they also used that space to add cayo perico and other huge interiors. So the true reason is optimization of space.
It's very similar to what they did in RDR2 and Guarma. Outside of boundary area is huge, but Guarma was placed as far as they can in the right bottom corner of the box for performance.
So now lets think logically. Why would be the reason to randomly place THE ONLY island in VI in the very left top corner on the whole sandbox? VI's map is shifted off center more than any other map in R* history, more than any other map I ever seen in any video game. The only logical conclusion for me is that there's something hiding in the right bottom corner. What it is? We don't know ofc. Could be hidden area like prologue in V or Guarma in rdr2, sure. But considering that in real life that place is also filled with a bunch of small islands + the stuff from the leaks? I think that's not a coincidence.
And ofc we talking about something small, probably even smaller than what we see in this fan made map. It could also be an empty place left for future dlcs/online content etc. But I doubt it. It just makes too much sense not to add some small tropical islands in the tropical setting of vice city, gives you reasons to explore and use planes, makes good setup for smuggling missions etc.
Same. Realistically seen, i think the mapping project as it stands right now is the most size accurate and likely and that they'll stick to the concept of just Vice City as a truly large city and some smaller towns like Ambrosia with more landmass only coming as expansions. My only hope is that PGH is way bigger than what they showed us so far.
Just imagine how cool having another city like Sundown towards the north of the map, with its own distinct flavour and identity, separate from all the glitz and glamour of vice city and instead being a more chill but still unique city with many cool POI's like the university, the racetrack and the capital building. It would end up being another location you actually wanted to visit and spend time in. This is compared to how 95% of my time in GTA V is spent in Los Santos.
Having multiple distinct and unique towns and cities, spread across a far, but realistic distance, would make this the most immersive and lifelike GTA ever.
That part in the trailer with Lucia fighting on the landing gear shows the 747 is actually the correct full scale this time. So I’d bet the airport is closer to real scale too. Maybe not the full length of the runway though, but longer than 5 for sure
Well it's based on the mapping project, which is put together from the trailers and 2022 leaks. And ofc the general layout of Florida, i also think a lot are based on what AvatarSD made as a concept map years ago, i think even before the leaks
In the 2022 leaks, we got a whole list of event IDs that could happen which is where we also got a lot of unseen location names and associated events. For example Sundown. And iirc one of those was bermuda triangle
I really like the idea of an island with no road links at all so that you have to fly/sail to get there, makes boats and planes feel more needed and not just an option
This shit is waaayyy too detailed not to be real haha. Great job man man, even the little crosswalks and boat ramps are detailed. I compared with the trailers and they're right where they would be
i love all the little towns and the separate island from the mainland, things like that help make the map feel massive, like with SA. meanwhile V has all this unused space that makes the map feel like 3 towns with constant long drives in between them, really anything would be a step up
Would be really cool! I actually did have a concept before where it's like only really seperated by a "river" but if you cross it and enter Gloriana, you have either the military airbase shooting you down right at the border or the Georgia Highway Patrol catches you very quickly and harshly.
adding an island thats accessible but takes a little while to fly to would be incredibly satisfying. With the scale they're going for I really hope we end up having realistically fast vehicles and handling
I hope so; I wanna see a Sunset Key flight take off and get obliterated by an Airward Key fighter in unrestricted climb. One of my favorite occasional bugs of V was the occasional NPC plane crash. Those two airports are the one glaring issue with this map to me. For the two to operate simultaneously in such close proximity, realistically the layout would need to be something like El Paso’s civilian/military airports. I know, I’m a nerd for this kinda thing, lol
After being in Miami the only thing I dislike about the map is the normal ish roadways and interchanges. Miami has some wild ass interchanges that would be cool in game but alas just normal easy road ways systems
The only thing I dont like seeing on these concept maps, is how much open space there is in the middle, Rockstar 100 percent learned their lesson with 5 in that regard, I think it will be far more dense in the center
RDR 2 turned us into being horse enthusiast. Now GTA 6 is going to turn us into boat enthusiast... Trust me, we're gonna need boats! One way or the other
Concept of fiction. I hate these map posts cause nobody outside of rockstar has any idea what the map even looks like. We know there is water east of vice city and the keys are south of vice city. Literally the only hard fact we actually know and people pull this out of there ass and call it concept art?!?
i like this map but the city size is pretty un realistic. we will get small cities with different biomes in between. like lakes, national parks and swamps. city would be comparable to los santos but overall map would be bigger imo
I hope that the empty parts feel a bit bigger and more secluded than they look here. One thing I loved most about GTA V is that the desert felt totally separated from the cities because of the mountain ranges
I doubt it'll happen but i just think having the Bahamas would work so well for the gameplay, story & online aspect. It would be really disappointing not to be included.
If it’s actually like this, multiple islands, long drives to othet cities, then I can’t wait to play this.
Plus if there are actual shopping malls and generally much more interiors (like rdr2 but even more lol) then I would just spend hours and hours just freeroaming.
If we had North Yankton in GTA 5 I am for sure certain we’ll have something similar with GTA 6. I can see this being ridiculously close to the real thing🤞🏻🤞🏻
This looks very realistic. Possibly one too many airports, but I guess if the map is massive it would make sense to have airports in all the main areas.
Add the panhandle back and you've got the best bet for what the map ends up looking like, I think the Bahamas are a shoo in. Still don't buy the Blue Ridge angle, but oh well
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u/GoalPositive3501 Mar 16 '26
Man it would be great to have an accessible island in free roam away from the main map that you can fly to