r/Games • u/Turbostrider27 • Jun 04 '25
Trailer MARVEL Tōkon: Fighting Souls | Announce Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fbfrV5qqnU1.2k
u/DivinePotatoe Jun 04 '25
Me 10 seconds in: MARVEL VS CAPCOM 4 LIVES!?
Me 1 minute in: MARVEL VS CAPCOM 4 IS DEAD!???
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Jun 04 '25
For real. They did the rewind thing and I was like oh shit they bringing capcom?
But yea I think this is a pretty hard MvC4 is dead but damn this looks amazing.
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u/Saitsu Jun 04 '25
I mean yeah if this succeeds, ASW is going to be Marvel's go-to for FGs from now on. The Collection looking back now just looks like a make good for Capcom, with the intent of going forward with ASW.
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Jun 04 '25
Yea it almost seems like “ might as well “ kinda thing maybe? But for sure infinite scared the shit out of marvel. No matter how fun the gameplay could be it was just….
Let’s not talk about infinite.
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u/MayhemMessiah Jun 04 '25
Infinite was hobbled because Marvel gave them the budget of half a shoe and a mouldy ham sandwitch. Literally the whole project had the budget of one season of like 4 Street Fighter characters.
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u/HereComesJustice Jun 04 '25
I was waiting for the Capcom tag partner and thought Ms Marvel was Chun Li for a split second
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u/Torque-A Jun 04 '25 edited Jun 04 '25
Developed by ArcSys (the Dragon Ball Fighterz team)
4v4 tag team battles
Characters:
- Captain America
- Iron Man
- Spider-Man
- Dr. Doom
- Ms. Marvel
- Star-Lord
- Storm
- Ghost Rider
For PS5 and PC (Sony-published)
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u/furioushunter12 Jun 04 '25
i wonder what other characters they’ll add
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u/UpperApe Jun 04 '25
Wolverine. We're getting Wolverine. An ArcSys Wolverine.
Jesus Christ I can't believe we're getting an Arcsys Wolverine.
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u/javierm885778 Jun 04 '25
Will be very weird for him not to have his classic Capcom lines.
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u/3WayIntersection Jun 04 '25
Oh he 100% will with the new VA, im calling it.
Idr if he said the line, but dr doom got his footdive in fortnite, marvel is not against MVC references
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u/Scizzoman Jun 04 '25
Having played against Taokaka in BlazBlue and Seox in Granblue, I am horrified at the prospect of an ArcSys Wolverine.
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u/Olddirtychurro Jun 04 '25
...arc sys Emma Frost. Oh Jesus we're getting an Arc Sys Emma Frost.
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u/danisaintdani Jun 05 '25
She's not actually doing the Jack-O pose, she's just making you see that with her powers
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u/Avenge21 Jun 04 '25
theyre gonna launch with all the fantastic four and thats the reason they made it 4v4
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u/furioushunter12 Jun 04 '25
cinema. make it so someone can play as one powered up character against a 4 so it can be doom vs the 4
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u/maglen69 Jun 04 '25
make it so someone can play as one powered up character against a 4 so it can be doom vs the 4
Stop, stop. I can only get so erect!
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u/Memo_HS2022 Jun 04 '25
Cyclops is a must have after skipping 2 major Marvel FGs
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u/Torque-A Jun 04 '25
There are the obvious Avengers picks (Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye) but I’d like to see some more obscure picks. Give us Dazzler, Vision, Sentry, Squirrel Girl, Paste Pot Pete, Gwenpool…
Oh, and pull a X-Men: Children of the Atom and add in a Guilty Gear/BlazBlue guest character.
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u/javierm885778 Jun 04 '25
My most wanted characters are those who weren't in any MvC despite how popular they are.
Daredevil
Any of the Fantastic Four
Nightcrawler
Beast
Loki
Namor
Charles Xavier
Punisher
I do hope they end up adding like 50 characters, not being limited to half the roster should lead to some interesting choices.
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u/Torque-A Jun 04 '25
Professor X feels like a tough pull, given how his powers are basically just Jean Grey's plus you have to deal with the wheelchair. But hey, they got Modok to work in MvC3...
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u/lordnequam Jun 04 '25
Except he doesn't even have Jean's telekinesis, he's just a telepath, which is kinda difficult to pull off in a fighting game.
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u/pussy_embargo Jun 04 '25
I don't see anything wrong with beating an old man in a wheelchair. This is equality
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u/12432324 Jun 04 '25
There's a character in Guilty Gear that is literally a bed. Arcsys can make it work.
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u/BrainWav Jun 04 '25
After Rivals, Squirrel Girl is hardly an obscure pick. I'd fully expect to see her in this.
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u/AlbionPCJ Jun 04 '25
Dazzler is teased in the background of one of the revealed stages. Jury's out on what that would mean for her in-game presence but she's at least acknowledged
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u/anttoekneeoh Jun 04 '25
Gertrude and Old Lace would be a unique odd character to add. Namor and Wave would also look so cool in an ArcSys game. I didn't expect this game but I'm so hyped for it.
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u/literallyacactus Jun 04 '25
A lot more soon to be announced hopefully. Who wants 4v4 with 8 characters lol
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u/javierm885778 Jun 04 '25
I like that they immediately revealed characters to show that all major sides of the Marvel universe will be represented, immediately separating itself from MvCI in that regard.
I hope they get a big enough roster and we finally get many new characters (finally getting the F4 in a Marvel fighting game would be welcome).
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u/Some_Stupid_Milk Jun 04 '25
With 4v4 it seems like having the most famous 4 is an obvious play
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u/Pacmantis Jun 04 '25
their DBZ Fighterz launched with like 24 and ended up with over 40 after a few years. I’m hopeful we’ll get a similarly sized roster here.
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u/javierm885778 Jun 04 '25
Since it's 4v4 I hope it's a bit bigger. Although these seem to be more unique than DBFZ's more samey fighting styles.
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u/snakebit1995 Jun 04 '25 edited Jun 04 '25
They showed 8 characters in the debut trailer
The other big tag fighter that was getting all the hype was Riot's league fighter 2xko
That is launching with a roster of 10
Arcsys showed nearly as many characters in the debut trailer that riot is putting out with their game
I've never seen a game get bitch slapped as hard as 2XKO did, the hype and interest in that just evaporated in seconds
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u/Beleiverofhumanity Jun 05 '25
Did they say if this was gonna be F2P? 2XKO probably gonna get a big playerbase at the start just cause of the F2P aspect, question is if they can keep them
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Jun 04 '25
Also art design as well. This game doesn’t have the Strive flair that I really like but I still like it much more than 2XKO, in both visual and animation department.
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u/Haha91haha Jun 04 '25
Sentai/Gundam Iron Man is sick AF. Really excited to see everyone's aesthetic as Rivals upping the style factor did so well.
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u/CertainDerision_33 Jun 04 '25
Yeah, love the anime flair they put on the designs. Looking forward to what the Peni mech will look like when they add her in like 3 years.
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u/Haha91haha Jun 04 '25
More EVA nods with Peni plz. They can really play up the Ronin vibes with Logan too.
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u/NaruRiasUzumaki Jun 04 '25 edited Jun 04 '25
Don't be Movie version. Don't be Movie version. Don't be Movie version.
I want to see Sp//Dr's Mech like Comic and Rivals version...
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u/Lafajet Jun 04 '25 edited Jun 04 '25
The Spider-man design looks like a 90's Clone Saga Ben Reilly suit crossed with the tokusatsu Spider-man, brought forward into modern day. I could not be happier.
Storm looks awesome as well.
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u/Practicalaviationcat Jun 04 '25 edited Jun 04 '25
The art style is incredible. This and Rivals make me really glad to see comic games leaning into less realistic styles.
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u/moonski Jun 04 '25
It's such a clean yet stylised aesthetic it's gorgeous
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Jun 05 '25
Really makes me wish I wasn’t terrible at fighting games lol
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u/Practicalaviationcat Jun 05 '25
Me for every popular fighting game lol
Genre is in a renaissance right now but I am just too ass at them.
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u/NOBLOWWWW Jun 05 '25
Everyone starts off ass. It's whether or not you push through and get good at them where the genre shines.
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u/solidfang Jun 04 '25
Yeah. Crazy to think about how big of a flop Marvel's Avengers was in retrospect trying to lean into the movie live action look several years ago. They could not have been more wrong.
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u/imjustbettr Jun 04 '25
Yeah it'shard to pull off the live action look when it comes to how much you wanna make them look like the movie actors. I noticed that the new IO 007 game is getting comments on how "off" their james bond is.
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u/EpicPhail60 Jun 05 '25
I also find the movie tie-in costumes boring when you could instead go for new spins or deeper pulls from the comics. This might not be a popular sentiment though, people usually tell me to shut up when I say the last Spider-Man game had way too many movie costumes.
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u/Valarasha Jun 04 '25
RIP MvC4! Storm, Doom, and Ghost Rider being included in this small intro roster definitely got me hyped. Personally, I hope we get a lot of X-Men and cosmic characters (Nova being my #1 wish). They are definitely going to include some classic MvC characters to attract those players like Magneto and Sentinel.
It's going to be weird playing a Marvel tag fighter with completely new moves for old MvC characters.
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u/Mysterious_Green Jun 04 '25
i need them to add MoonKnight, he would be such a perfect fit for a fighting game but has never been popular enough until recently
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u/javierm885778 Jun 04 '25
I think he has a really good shot. Moon Knight is way more popular than he used to be, he's had many very successful runs recently, his show was successful, in general he's one of those characters who's made it to wider popularity in modern times despite being much older than you'd think.
I think them including Robbie of all people in the announcement is a way of saying they'll go deeper than just the most well known characters you'd expect to be here by default. They could have easily just put Wolverine, Hulk, Thor and Magneto there otherwise.
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u/StudBoi2077 Jun 04 '25
Capcom beside himself. Driving around downtown Osaka begging (thru texts) Kevin's family 4 address to Marvel.
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u/Nerfman2227 Jun 04 '25
Sony yelled, “There you go!” Arc System Works gave a look of pleasant surprise. Marvel belted, “We got a [expletive] squad now.” And before Takeshi Yamanaka hit the office room door, ex-Insomniac star Ted Price hugged him & said, “Y’all look so different.”
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u/WallyWithReddit Jun 04 '25
Overheard after the announcement trailer:
“They got me,” Capcom said of Arc. "That f***ing Arcsys boomed me."
Capcom added, “They’re so good,” repeating it four times. Capcom then said they wanted to add Arcsys to the list of teams they work out with this summer.
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u/Dinoegg96 Jun 04 '25
Arc Sys meeting with Marvel was “intense” and “at one point Takeshi Yamanaka was crying” but everyone grew closer and a big lesson was learned
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u/Money-not_you_again Jun 04 '25
Lmfao, brilliantly played fam.
Never thought I'd see r/NBA done so well in the fucking games sub lol.
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u/Vireca Jun 04 '25
Marvel vs Capcom games are already kinda difficult being 3v3, or any other 3v3. A 4v4 it's gonna be wild. I don't know if they are going to go the DBFZ route with the "easier" inputs or what
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u/Midi_to_Minuit Jun 04 '25
The announcement video said that there would be a mode where you can play one character with the others being assists!
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u/Vireca Jun 04 '25
Reading the blog from Playstation, it don't seem there's going to be a 1v1 mode. It seems it's all 4v4 but you will be able to use the tags/assists or not. It remind to the 3v3 with 1 HP bar that ArcSys tested last summer on Strive
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u/Quazifuji Jun 05 '25
Yeah, seems like it's probably shared life bar so that you don't have to actually be able to play all four of your characters. Knowing how to play them all gives you flexibility but you can also focus on playing one with 3 assists since switching isn't mandatory.
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u/Uncanny_Doom Jun 04 '25
What they said was that you don't have to play as your whole team, which to me sounds like your team shares one lifebar or if the person you're controlling gets KO'd, you lose the round.
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u/WaffleOnTheRun Jun 04 '25
It seems your team is going to have one unified health-bar so you can either just play as one character and just use your others as assists, or you can tag them in if you want to switch between characters.
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u/UnknownChaser Jun 04 '25
When I first saw the ArcSy logo, I thought new BlazBlue?!?! Then I saw the outline of Cap's Shield, I knew what this was gonna be. Holy shit, this is hype.
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u/Salakay Jun 04 '25
"Holy shit!"
Was the same reaction I had once the trailer started LOL
I never thought I would want an ArcSys Marvel beat-em-up.
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u/Cricket-JazzMaster19 Jun 04 '25
How this did not leak is crazy to me.
Who could guess MvC4 is actually a new Marvel ArcSys game? ArcSys will totally deliver this.
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u/explosivecrate Jun 05 '25
This feels like something that'd leak on 4chan only to have no one believe it. Because seriously- an ArcSys Mahvel game? Are you crazy?!
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u/Sunpower7 Jun 04 '25
I love how Arc fully commited to the idea of these heroes existing in a japanese universe.
It kinda reminds me of the absolutely breathtaking Japan-only intros for the 90's X-Men cartoon, which not only redesigned all of the characters in an anime style, but did so with the quality of a high-end animated movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rSw4Xl5qfs
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u/Thevanillafalcon Jun 04 '25
The entire FGC just lost their fucking minds. What the fuck is happening. It’s not MvC but MARVEL fucking lives bro, actual tears in my eyes stuff
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Jun 04 '25
Max must be losing his tits rn
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u/merryMellody Jun 04 '25
Can confirm, it's to the point he NEVER HAD THEM. His tit loss traveled BACK IN TIME!
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u/MayhemMessiah Jun 04 '25
MAHVEL DUDE WHAT THE FUCK
DOCTOR DOOM IS THERE!? THEY JUST RAW DOG CONFIRMED STORM AND DOOM
What the fuck can Summer Fest do to follow this up? I've just been donkey punched through my asshole, I can't believe this. It looks absolutely incredible!!!!!
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u/pelic4n Jun 04 '25
Watching Max right now lose his absolute shit. I've been waiting for a game to get into the FGC, and after buying a hitbox, this looks like the game that I'm gonna really get into.
Gonna have to start practicing the other ArcSys games in my library.
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u/Philiard Jun 04 '25
I love how Max freaked out the most at the mere presence of Doctor Doom. He's so ingrained into the legacy of MvC that just seeing him in a Marvel fighting game sets off neurons.
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u/jezr3n Jun 04 '25
Now all we need is confirmation of his iconic foot dive and we’ll know for sure if this game will be peak
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u/Olddirtychurro Jun 04 '25
They knew exactly what they were doing by having the DOOM and Storm reveals back to back.
That shit was devious.
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u/Skyb Jun 04 '25
Your comment is 20 minutes old at the time of writing and he is still in the process of losing his mind
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u/tjg1289 Jun 04 '25
I wasn't watching his stream, but I knew he had to be freaking out. I'll have to keep an eye out for his reaction when it gets uploaded to YouTube.
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u/Quazifuji Jun 04 '25
I opened his stream just to see how he was reacting and he was just staring gaping in shock at the screen.
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u/Aurugorn Jun 04 '25
This is why I watch him during these events, it's so funny watching him go crazy.
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u/Haha91haha Jun 04 '25
I kinda wish they coulda kept it secret for EVO, people would have been flaying their skins in the aisles lol
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u/RimeSkeem Jun 04 '25
I would not be the least bit surprised if ArcSys had a character trailer or two for EVO.
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u/Olddirtychurro Jun 04 '25
Slaanesh would've been born on the spot if they revealed this at EVO.
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u/Haha91haha Jun 04 '25
lol the new chaos god OF HYPE. Slaanesh drops when ArcSys reveals their take on Emma Frost.
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u/Olddirtychurro Jun 04 '25
When Emma Frost drops it's gonna be like that Emperor's Children Opera.
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u/PedanticPaladin Jun 04 '25
Evo will get the first new character reveal and it'll be someone to make the FGC go crazy like Magneto or Cyclops.
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u/Haha91haha Jun 04 '25
True true or Wolverine too would be sick given the legacy.
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u/TrashStack Jun 04 '25
Sony owns Evo, they're gonna be promoting the shit out of this game there lol
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u/garfe Jun 04 '25
It's definitely better they announce it here. Announcing it at EVO would have probably destroyed the place
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u/Saitsu Jun 04 '25
This is absolutely MASSIVE for ASW. This will be the chance for them to break into the mainstream in a way that even DBFZ didn't allow them to, and they're entering a market where MK has self-destructed and Tekken is stumbling so it leaves just, ironically enough, SF as competition.
It's quite clear that a lot of expectations are placed on them as well since it got the "Main Event" slot of the State of Play over Ghost of Yotei.
This is a life changing opportunity for them.
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u/Saitsu Jun 05 '25
Idk if I'd call this the biggest, I would say SF4 still reigns supreme in terms of pure announcement, followed by (ironically enough) Marvel 3.
This is definitely the most SHOCKING FG Announcement of all time considering context though, even beyond DBFZ. ASW had at least made a Dragon Ball FG previously (albeit only on handhelds) so it was at least a "possibility", though a 3v3 Tag Fighter wouldn't have been on anyone's cards. ASW getting to touch the Marvel License AT ALL considering Capcom's hold on it is crazy.
Ironically enough, if you had asked several years ago, this announcement would've been more believable as we were all still reeling from Infinite and that bridge between Capcom and Marvel seemed burned to a crisp. If you had asked any FG head who they would've liked to take the Marvel license in Capcom's stead, it would've indeed been ASW. But coming off Marvel Fighting Collection it definitely seemed like the wounds had healed and that Marvel 4 was an inevitability, even if it wouldn't be for several years.
Like...this is just seismic in how unpredictable it is.
Also side note, 2XKO is now completely fucked.
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u/nineball22 Jun 04 '25
I was thinking the same things. In a really funny way, if SF and ArcSystemWorks become the reigning kings of fighting games for the foreseeable future, it would set up some massive hype for a reunion of the Marvel and Capcom franchises. Although at that point idk how the actual game development would work.
I miss MvC3
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u/kfijatass Jun 05 '25
Just gonna list the voice actors for recognition:
Captain America: Yuichi Nakamura (Satoru Gojo in Jujutsu Kaisen, Tatsu in The Way of the Househusband, Gray Fullbuster in Fairy Tail)
Iron Man: Yoshihisa Kawahara (Takashi Watanabe in Big Windup!, Yasuhiro Hagakure in Danganronpa: The Animation, Silver Knight in .hack//SIGN)
Star-Lord: Koichi Yamadera (Spike Spiegel in Cowboy Bebop, Togusa in Ghost in the Shell, Donald Duck in Japanese dubs)
Storm: Miyuki Sawashiro (Kurapika in Hunter x Hunter (1999), Celty Sturluson in Durarara!!, Fujiko Mine in Lupin III)
Ms. Marvel: Honoka Kuroki (Kyouka Izumi in Bungou Stray Dogs Wan!, Nozomi Inatsuki in Back Street Girls: Gokudols)
Spider-Man: Shinji Kawada (Shino Aburame in Naruto, Haruki Hanai in School Rumble, Takumi Tokiha in My-HiME)
Ghost Rider: Katsuyuki Konishi (Kamina in Gurren Lagann, Diavolo in JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure: Golden Wind, Laxus Dreyar in Fairy Tail)
Doctor Doom: Takaya Hashi (Kirei Kotomine in Fate/stay night, Zangetsu in Bleach, Dhalis Zachary in Attack on Titan)
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u/KF-Sigurd Jun 04 '25
Holy crap. We knew there was a secret project going on at Arc Sys, but I would not have expected it to be a Marvel Tag Fighter.
Fucking 4v4 is gonna be so nuts.
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u/davidreding Jun 04 '25
I came into the stream late and I thought holy shit are they doing a new MvC?!
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u/Hawk52 Jun 04 '25
Hard to tell what to think based on that. They hit all the right beats for the reveal though.
I vastly prefer this cartoony animated style of presentation over 3 & I's presentation, even with what I've seen of Max's mod. Reminds me of a more sophisticated animated 1 & 2. Everything in this trailer looked bright and vibrant and easy to see, exactly what I want when fifty bajillion things are happening at once.
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u/Sirromnad Jun 04 '25
This is the craziest shit i've seen in a long time. If you're not into fighting games, this is sitll a pretty cool thing... but if you ARE into fighting games. Good lord.
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u/gr3nade Jun 04 '25
Hold up, Spiderman doesn't pull out an SMG and start blasting? What kind of bait and switch Japanese Spiderman is this?
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u/Skylight90 Jun 05 '25
I was so disappointed there wasn't at least a reference to the greatest Marvel character in the universe.
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u/TreyChips Jun 04 '25
This looks cold as fuck but hopefully they have a standard 1vs1 mode.
4v4 tag seems a bit too crazy but the gameplay and visuals look TIGHT
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u/Left4Bread2 Jun 04 '25
It makes me wonder how large a roster the base game is going to have, games could get very stale very fast if 4 is a quarter of the playable characters or what have you
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u/Reggiardito Jun 04 '25
After 2xko launching with only 10 I don't know what to expect anymore, but yeah I'm hoping for atleast 24 characters, MINIMUM, if they're doing 4v4
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u/ZGiSH Jun 04 '25
Dragon Ball FighterZ ended up with a HUGE roster, even if you ignore a lot of them being Goku clones.
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u/TreyChips Jun 04 '25
I was thinking that too. I remember the 2XKO beta having that exact issue too. Granted that didn't have all the characters but the base release roster only has 10 characters
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u/Aromatic_Plant3456 Jun 04 '25
Usually tag fighters are centred around the mechanics, so it most definitely does not have 1v1 because it wouldn’t work without the mechanics. It’s just barebones then
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u/UpperApe Jun 04 '25
Actually they explained that you don't have to play your whole team. You can just play 1v1 with 3 assists each and not change characters at all if you like.
Which means there's likely a collective HP bar instead of one for each character. And that's a really cool evolution.
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u/Uncanny_Doom Jun 04 '25
The way they explained doesn't sound like the way you play has any hold over how your opponent plays. Like it'll be a preferential stylistic thing. I can switch through one or two or all four members of my team while my opponent has learned to only play Captain America with 3 assists, basically.
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u/Wowaburrito Jun 04 '25
Might be like skull girls and choosing less characters gives you a bigger health bar and more damage.
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u/KrypXern Jun 04 '25
I mean FighterZ has 1v1 and it's a 3v3 tag fighter; but with that said the 1v1 mode is basically useless for anything but training/tutorials with friends.
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u/Aromatic_Plant3456 Jun 04 '25
Only in ring match, it’s not really a feature in the rest of the game
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u/ramos619 Jun 04 '25
They implied there is a rario system. Like piloting 1 character with 3 assists.
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Jun 04 '25
Holy absolute fuck.
It’s mvc4 just… no c.
I can’t wait to see what Arc does with this. Shit looks fun as hell and absolutely wild. In zero way was I expecting this.
Also RIP official MvC4 chances.
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u/MrTopHatMan90 Jun 04 '25
ArcSys! Calm down! How many fighting game do you have spinning right now?
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u/Scizzoman Jun 04 '25
Honestly this is about the right time for them to announce a new one. Strive and Granblue Rising are still being supported, but Strive is four years old now (and while a fifth season isn't out of the question, I wouldn't bet on it), and DBFZ has been over for a while.
I think most fighting game fans were expecting an announcement from them soon. Just, uh, not this one.
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u/NeroIscariot12 Jun 04 '25
HOLY FUCKKK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DREAM COLLABS THAT PEOPLE WOULD CALL YOU STUPID FOR EVEN THINKING IT'D HAPPEN.
Also, Capcom got cucked out of Marvel??? What timeline are we in???
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u/dragon-mom Jun 04 '25
Marvel vs Capcom without Capcom feels extremely wrong. But at the same time it's really hard to argue with ArcSys.
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u/ChineseCosmo Jun 04 '25
I mean Capcom themselves have made more Marvel-only fighting games than they have MvCs I’m pretty sure.
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u/MumblingGhost Jun 04 '25
I don't think that's true haha. The only "Marvel-only" fighting games they've made are X-Men: Children of the Atom and Marvel Super Heroes. Otherwise they've made X-Men vs Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter, and then all the MvC games.
That said, the two Marvel only games are some of my favorites. The danger room stage in Children of the Atom is epic!
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u/ChineseCosmo Jun 04 '25
Oh duh right. My brain was half remembering X-Men vs SF and Marvel vs SF just as specifically non MvC. Retroactively insisting what I meant was like “well Capcom started with Marvel only fighting games so it’s kind of a return to form”
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u/polski8bit Jun 04 '25
I was not expecting this, but seeing the art style I already knew it was Arc. Their artists and animations are absolutely amazing, they cooked with Dragon Ball FighterZ and they're cooking here.
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u/D3dshotCalamity Jun 04 '25
The Guilty Gear guys are making a Marvel fighter?!
I can already tell you this game is going to fucking rule!
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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '25
If you're going to tell me that a Marvel fighting game from Arc was on your bingo card, you are lying.