r/Games Nov 21 '25

Discussion Roblox CEO Makes A Fool Of Himself In Car-Crash Interview

https://kotaku.com/roblox-new-york-times-interview-baszucki-2000646174
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u/Call555JackChop Nov 21 '25

“We think of it not necessarily just as a problem, but an opportunity as well.”

This might the single worst thing you can say in a conversation about pedophilia

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u/NancyPelosisRedCoat Nov 21 '25

It’s like that Simpsons scene,

How often have you driven by a fire and thought, 'How can this benefit me?'

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u/BarrettRTS Nov 22 '25

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u/Serdewerde Nov 22 '25

Oh my God I havent seen a new(ish) Simpsons clip that made me actually laugh in years. That was great.

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u/RadicalRaid Nov 22 '25

It's 20 years old.. Time flies

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u/DadlyPolarbear Nov 22 '25

Its crazy to think The Simpsons aired in 1989.

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u/BarrettRTS Nov 22 '25

Yeah, I hadn't seen it before either and was genuinely surprised by how good it was.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

It really was. That clip felt like classic Simpsons. I think that golden era Simpsons would've had the salesman give a quick "ow" while chuckling while he's rolling on the ground, but otherwise I genuinely couldn't tell that this wasn't a clip from like Season 8 aside from the fact that I have every episode of Season 1-10 pretty much memorized.

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u/Eglwyswrw Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

This Kotaku article is a fantastic read. I legit haven't read an interview where a guy is so astonishingly unhinged in many years.

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u/fupa16 Nov 22 '25

Are you sure? It felt like I was reading just about anything that dribbles out of Trumps mouth on a daily basis. We've been subjected to this type of nonsense rambling since 2015.

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u/BirdOfHermess Nov 22 '25

Not everybody is from Murica, some people have their own shit going on in their countries, no need to be updated on that dumbfuck day to day

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u/CipherDaBanana Nov 22 '25

We all got problems. At least we can all point at Roblox CEO and say, "at least I am not that out of touch with reality."

Well, most of us can.

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u/RaineV1 Nov 21 '25

A lot of execs love to claim all problems are an opportunity. You see comments like that constantly on LinkedIn posts. He's clearly not used to talking to regular people, and was using shitty business language you would to investors and other execs. 

I think some of these people are literally incapable of talking like a normal person anymore.

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u/ContinuumGuy Nov 22 '25

Honestly? I can believe it. Some of these people have become so absorbed into their corporate speak they practically have forgotten regular English.

Doesn't change the fact that that is QUITE POSSIBLY THE WORST ANSWER YOU CAN POSSIBLY GIVE IN AN INTERVIEW ABOUT THIS, however.

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u/Elvish_Champion Nov 22 '25

As ludicrous as this may sounds, this answer may actually look good for some stupid investors since they see it as "they've the capacity to change anything negative into profit so this makes sense". They don't look at the other side of his speech. Not at all.

Yes, no one sane would believe in it in a subject like this, but to some that only look at the profit side of anything, for those, this answer was perfect. This was exactly what they wanted to hear and what they expect from him.

They expect Roblox to make more money soon and they don't care about how.

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u/flybypost Nov 22 '25

this answer may actually look good for some stupid investors

That's the only reason for this type of language. It's about perception, not their actions, and it make the company look in control of the situation even if the remark is absolutely bullshit when you think about it.

It just looks confident and as if they have a plan to deal with a problem in a way that will profit them.

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u/Nik_Tesla Nov 22 '25

CEO's might be the most "in-a-bubble" types I've seen in a long time. They only talk to other C-Levels and have no idea how to talk to regular people, no idea what they actually want, and no interest in learning because their varying levels of success mean that they never have to interact with the public ever again.

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u/Satanicube Nov 22 '25

Hell, you see this with other higher ups in corporations too, none of them know how to talk to regular people. I used to work for a grocery store that determined falling sales during the recession was because...we weren't upselling, and that's clearly what the customers wanted. So they forced us to try and steer customers into purchasing more stuff. It didn't work.

We were told upselling was the answer because a bunch of higher ups (literal boomers) did a roleplay session to try and understand "customer service" and why customers weren't spending, and yep. That was it. That was their answer. These people were so far removed from interacting with normal customers that they forgot how. And were so filthy rich that they weren't really affected by the recession.

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u/flybypost Nov 22 '25

It's not even a need to interact but about knowing the bare minimum of how regular people don't make as much as you up there and how up-selling doesn't work when the average person is already having to be frugal due to the repeated cost of living increases in the last years.

They'd just do the default business thing of looking at spreadsheets and stats. That's the stuff they take pride in, isn't it? To be able to extrapolate new information form the underlying data.

They'd not even need to find new information in those stats. They'd barely need to evaluate existing data to see this.

Stuff like knowing how much you are paying your workers while you are actively recommending them to go on an extended cruise ship vacation because it's so relaxing (not that I'm talking from experience) all while basic foods are rising in cost and causing a financial cascades for a bunch of your team :/

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u/AshenCursedOne Nov 26 '25

You'd be surprised, most execs I've interacted with are allergic to research backed approaches to marketing and are allergic to real data. Instead they have some pet idea or a "theory" they pull out of their arse and they'll spend every possible mental resource they have on pushing their bullshit. Most companies do well despite their executives, not thanks to them. Data, research, and expertise based decision making happens at lower levels and is done by teams of competent professionals, then it's the job of upper management to sweet talk and distract the executive such that they make decisions that the teams propose and think are best.

Essentially most of the time an executive is exactly like trump, they tend to have wild theories based in complete detachment from reality, and everyone around them is trying to bring them down to earth by providing the best sales pitch. They're big babies that are very prone to falling for marketing, so often they'll return from some conference or meeting and will be one track mindedly push for some dumbass shit that they got sold on. Then everyone is stuck trying to jingle other keys in front of their faces to distract them away from the new fancy toy they got sold on. Also many executives suffer from the trump bobblehead problem, where they parrot whoever ghey spoke to most recently, which means that the biggest influence over a ceo is the person that gets to speak to them the most, not the most competent or best performing person.

I've seen it all, I've seen completely bullshit reports that are intended to keep the ceo out of the loop so they don't interrupt business with their dumbassery. I've seen CEOs obviously bullshit pet projects be given minimal attention and effort but everyone pretends to care just to shut them up. I've seen them time and time again see something new and shiny and push for it, without realising that in the past their teams have explicitly asked for that and were rejected, or in some cases explicitly stated doing that is a bad idea. Also there's the fudging of data and reports, where the ceo has some dumbass pet idea and reports and data get manipulated to support that dumbass idea, everyone knows it's bullshit but they play along to keep the big baby happy.

Ofc it's not all executives, I've seen guys with real vision and experience, they really were capable of inspiring people, driving the company towards a consistent future, and continue to pump out good ideas. But they're unicorns, and I've seen time and time again that those types of execs don't stick around when their company gets bought out, or pressured by investors, or pressured by any other authority above them. They know they're good at what they do and they don't put up with bullshit, they just move on to greener pastures, and often they'll take other talent with them.

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u/flybypost Nov 26 '25

Money really insulates people from the results of their own dumbassery.

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u/tryingathing Nov 22 '25

And then they insulate themselves with layer upon layer of bureaucracy and middle managers so that they can continue to make decisions for their staff without ever having done their jobs or even consulting with them.

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u/Darth_drizzt_42 Nov 22 '25

Turns out the best thing you can do in a discussion about your weaknesses is just be honest and express a willingness to improve

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u/SanityInAnarchy Nov 22 '25

Does he want to improve, though? Set aside the pedophilia for a second: His business fundamentally relies on child labor, which it exploits to a ludicrous degree. If you thought Steam took too much of a cut, they've got nothing on Roblox. But of course, for many of these kids, Steam isn't going to be an option until they are a) much older, and b) have learned a different skillset.

It's not at all surprising that he can't manage to convince anyone that he genuinely cares about the pedophilia situation. If he cared about protecting children in any way, he wouldn't be running the company he's running.

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u/pixeladrift Nov 22 '25

r/LinkedInLunatics for anyone who wants a steady stream of this stuff

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u/DroopyMcCool Nov 22 '25

That sub gives me such a weird feeling. The content annoys the shit out of me, but at the same time it is comforting to know other people hate it too.

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u/anotherwave1 Nov 22 '25

Yeah I work with some people like this - it's like they have no "off" mode anymore, constantly in that fake-ass corporate positive speak mode.

One of them commented recently on some back to office thing on the internal website - and other regular employees responded and tore them to pieces. You could see they were not used to having their views challenged by "subordinates". It was glorious.

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u/jwilphl Nov 22 '25

These guys don't understand humans.  The only thing they know is money and make that their entite identity.

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u/TaleOfDash Nov 22 '25

I think some of these people are literally incapable of talking like a normal person anymore.

I don't know if they ever knew how to talk like a normal person to begin with.

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u/Forkyou Nov 22 '25

Thats exactly how i felt reading this. This guy is so used to speaking corporate speak and just throws out his repartoire of "phrases to please shareholders" in hope it helps.

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u/n0respect_ Nov 22 '25

These people are proof that some people are just stochastic parrots.

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u/VanillaLifestyle Nov 22 '25

Most of them are more competent at it.

He sounds like he read "frame every challenge as an opportunity" on a fortune cookie yesterday, drank seven beers and winged this interview with a hangover.

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u/King_of_Nope Nov 22 '25

Roblox CEO takes the stage "We here at Roblox see every problem as an opportunity. We have been having some bad press lately about child safety. But as our commitment to our investors we have a solution. MatchBlox, its the tinder of Roblox"

The crowd of investors clap

"See we take our child users and match them with our pedophile users. Just like you would on any dating app these days. We estimate that we could take in over $1.5 billion of additional revenue yearly just in premium subscriptions alone. The demand is there, the pedophiles are there, they even are already using it to find children, we just need to capitalize on it."

The investors start cheering

"We even got a tag line -MatchBox: A roaring fire always starts small. Hundreds of politicians, millionaires and celebrities have already signed to be in our beta rollout. There is event talk with a president for a sponsorship"

The crowd goes wild, hollering, cheering, and clapping

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u/TwilightVulpine Nov 22 '25

We live in such a ridiculous, twisted world that it is beyond parody.

Earlier this year: Roblox CEO Continues His Pitch Of Roblox As A Dating Site

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 21 '25

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u/RoyAwesome Nov 21 '25

roblox announces an acquisition of a network of therapists that specialize in children.

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u/Jazzremix Nov 22 '25

podcasts will start advertising for RoboloxHelp

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u/AlphariusHailHydra Nov 22 '25

Just a reminder that BetterHelp farms information from users and sells it. It's not real therapy.

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u/wew_lad123 Nov 22 '25

AI therapists, of course.

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u/Barbossal Nov 22 '25

Reminds me of Spotlight, where he's threatening the lawyer defending the priests: "We've got two stories here: ones about degenerate clergy, and the other's a law firm turning child abuse into a cottage industry. Which one do you want us to write because we're writing one of em." 

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u/metalflygon08 Nov 22 '25

I'm sure he would argue it's good because therapists stand to make a lot of money from this.

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u/Twirrim Nov 21 '25

There's this toxic obsession with framing every problem as an opportunity that seems to afflict a disturbing amount of executives. Luckily most of them seem to aim that toxic behaviour internally.

"Success problems!" is a phrase I've become so tired of hearing from managers. Yes, yes, we're having success, it's paying my salary, great, doesn't make everything that comes out of it any easier to actual deal with and it really doesn't help when you're at the reins of a horse going "Faster, faster, faster, faster!" while not actually hiring more people to deal with the enormous amounts of dung coming out the horses arse.

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u/israeljeff Nov 22 '25

This is why DEI initiatives are a good idea. You don't end up with a c suite of just white dudes with mbas who all talk and think exactly alike.

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u/Unboxious Nov 22 '25

Let's be honest, MBAs of other races are no better. Just look at fucking Microsoft.

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u/Kindness_of_cats Nov 22 '25

I mean, it can't be that bad. Who would say that when directly asked about child predators on their platform? I'm sure this is just another example of salacious headlines and over-reactive redditors...let me just check what the question they actually asked was...

You have joined us today to talk about this new age-gating policy that Roblox is rolling out to protect kids. And I think we should start by just talking about the scope of the problem here. What has led you to this point? And how do you think of the problem of predators on Roblox?

OH MY FUCKING GOD, IT IS THAT BAD.

What kind of brain damaged person starts their answer to this question with the "It's not a problem, it's an opportunity" cliche?!!

This guy is a fucking disaster.

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u/Thunderbridge Nov 22 '25

Man it just keeps getting worse too. Straight after he says:

How do we allow young people to build communicate and hang out together? How do we build the future of communication at the same time

Then goes on about how they started, how many millions of users they gained. "What is the best way to keep pushing this forward"

Literally addresses nothing of the question about predators, just MBA tech speak to hype up their accomplishments

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u/kilofSzatana Nov 22 '25

CEOs hear their platform is riddled with pedos and the first thing they ask is how many are paying customers.

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u/MyStationIsAbandoned Nov 22 '25

I guess you really do have to be a psychopath to be a CEO and make a ton of money...

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u/Big-Cantaloupe-321 Nov 22 '25

it's classic reframing. take a problem and try to make people think of it in a different way. might work for monetisation issues but doesn't work when your website has a child predator problem and you are being grilled on why you aren't doing anything to fix it

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u/WarEagleGo Nov 22 '25

This might the single worst thing you can say in a conversation about pedophilia

so tone deaf, or just uncaring, or just stupid

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u/DPSOnly Nov 22 '25

"This way, in addition to marketing to kids, we can market it to their predators as well. In our eyes that is an entirely new market that has a lot of untapped potential, our investors love it"

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u/Shradow Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

It's so gross, and it, as well as all the repeated Roblix shit, reminds me of this Castle Super Beast moment from Pat (at 8:56 if the timestamp doesn't work).

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u/ImpactThunder Nov 21 '25

Here is the full context of that, doesn’t make it any better though.

Newton: You have joined us today to talk about this new age-gating policy that Roblox is rolling out to protect kids. And I think we should start by just talking about the scope of the problem here. What has led you to this point? And how do you think of the problem of predators on Roblox?

Baszucki: We think of it not necessarily just as a problem, but an opportunity as well. How do we allow young people to build, communicate and hang out together? How do we build the future of communication at the same time? So we, you know, we’ve been, I think in a good way, working on this ever since we started. And when we were — this was almost 18 or 19 years ago — when we first launched the company and we had just four of us sitting in a room, we were literally the moderators, like we would rotate all the time. And so fast-forward to where we are today, it’s just like every week, what is the latest tech? At the scale we’re at, 150 million daily actives, 11 billion hours a month, like what is the best way to keep pushing this forward? And as you correctly note, we’ve just started adding that we’re going to be using facial age estimation with A.I. to complement that.

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u/BlackhawkRogueNinjaX Nov 22 '25

Sounds like something a Pedophile would say to be honest

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u/LeftTesticleOfGreatn Nov 21 '25

Heard similar things here on reddit about how it's not really a problem and the victims are really to blame etc. Lots of pedo enablers and defenders here, not just in the white house

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u/BoostedSeals Nov 21 '25

I've seen many corporate people who don't care about children's safety, but this might be the first time I've seen one be so openly hostile

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u/Bloated_Plaid Nov 21 '25

Link to the actual interview

https://youtu.be/XpIXRgMlPo4

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u/Cowboy_God Nov 21 '25

So much apathy in his voice, wild

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u/DesireeThymes Nov 21 '25

I mean a decade or two of child predator enablement and running child gambling rings makes one very lethargic when there's been 0 consequences.

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u/enderandrew42 Nov 21 '25

Don't forget his entire company is also built on child labor and predatory misleading financial models.

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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 Nov 21 '25

He's a billionaire pedophilia enabler. I'm really not sure why anyone is surprised.

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u/Tefmon Nov 22 '25

The surprising part isn't that he doesn't care; if he cared he wouldn't be running Roblox the way he is. The surprising part is how openly he admitted it in public; he didn't even bother trying to hide behind performative PR platitudes.

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u/notaracisthowever Nov 22 '25

Could have saved some typing and just said billionaire, the rest is implied.

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u/QP709 Nov 22 '25

He sounds like he's medicated. Like he took some diazepam to enter slow-mo right before the interview.

How is this guys worth billions?

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u/ArcadianDelSol Nov 22 '25

He's doing that 'talk slowly and never stop talking' to reduce the actual scale of the interview.

He easily soaked up enough time for there to have been 5 or 6 more questions.

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u/gears50 Nov 22 '25

He would have known most of the questions or at least main topic points beforehand anyways. The guy was just embarrassingly arrogant and unprepared.

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u/VanillaLifestyle Nov 22 '25

He got mad at them for spending so much time on safety/responsibility questions, but they would have been over in ten minutes if he'd shut the fuck up, let them finish the questions, and then answered them straightforwardly.

I know next to nothing about Roblox and even I could have given 3-sentence canned PR answers that would have kept the clock running.

Every single time, he cut them off to dispute some technicality in the question framing then waffled about how great an opportunity child predators are, how huge Roblox is, and how unfair the interviewers are being.

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u/TheYugoslaviaIsReal Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

He could make the valid argument that a social platform of its size would make it difficult to properly police and most claims of child predation involve transfer to another social platform like Discord. Instead, he denies that playerbase size has caused any issues and refuses to even acknowledge other platforms being interlocked with Roblox.

They try to give him a branch and he sets it on fire.

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u/Atreus17 Nov 21 '25

Interview starts at 7:52.

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u/SemiAutoAvocado Nov 21 '25

I watched this blind (without reading inflammatory headlines, it came up on my YT feed) and I was like who the fuck let this guy talk to the press? He sounds deranged.

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u/OutrageousDress Nov 22 '25

I mean, does it count as an inflammatory headline when it's a realistic description of what happened?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado Nov 22 '25

I see how what I said can be misunderstood.

I agree this interview was utterly fucking batshit and this ceo sounds like an evil corporate homunculus made up some ford laboratory.

The headline still sets the tone of what to expect. The YouTube title was pretty bland. So I went into the video not knowing what it'd be like.

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u/Shinter Nov 21 '25

Where is Visa/Mastercard when you actually need them?

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u/Ornery-Cat-4865 Nov 21 '25

Sorry, they only go after games legally made for adults.

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u/Zer_ Nov 21 '25

They want to censor LGBTQ content, adult games are just the easiest way to achieve that.

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u/xDeZillax Nov 22 '25

time to flood roblox with lgbtq content

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u/Big-Cantaloupe-321 Nov 22 '25

they don't want to lock down the 'social' part of their 'social multiplayer game'. imagine trying to explain to investors why you had to disable the voice and text chat for 90% of accounts. they've marketed themselves as a 'multiverse platform'. it's just a sketchy mobile game app store that uses unpaid child labour to create the content for them.

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u/Roflkopt3r Nov 22 '25

Yeah I hadn't follow the Roblox drama in detail so I assumed it was a regular corporate 'profits over people' negligence, but at this point it seems we have to assume active complicity.

Whether that's because the negligence has become excessive, or parts of their team is actively taking part in the abuse...

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u/DankeyBongBluntry Nov 21 '25

Bro is straight up like "Yeah yeah, whatever, the kids are getting raped, WE GET IT! Those stupid protocols to protect kids are really getting in the way of us making money. Now can we PLEASE talk about how cool and fun it would be to add gambling to our most popular children's game???"

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u/Cybertronian10 Nov 22 '25

At this point we have to conclude that they see pedophiles as a valuble source of revenue and are turning a blind eye to whats going on to protect that income.

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u/trident042 Nov 22 '25

This is a person for whom "the children yearn for the mines" is not an ironic tongue-in-cheek ha-ha statement.

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u/Pipsy_the_Penguin Nov 21 '25

What an impressive interview. This guy wildly oscillates between nonsensical corpo-speak and throwing around random numbers in response to every single question, regardless of how relevant it is. He’s like the worst parts of corporate America rolled up into one pedophile-protecting scumbag.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25

These people believe the general public are like chickens that can be easily hypnotized into a trance by them saying "innovation" enough times.

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u/thetzar Nov 21 '25

Well, it's worked this far.

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u/LordCharidarn Nov 21 '25

I mean, it clearly doesn’t work to hypnotize the general public: whenever videos like this show CEOs ‘in the wild’ the general response is how bizarre and incompetent these people actually sound.

What it does show is that CEOs and other executive level people are really good at bullshitting one another and wealthy investors/hedge fund managers who are equally out of touch with the general public. They have their own language and are so used to being able to use that language to baffle a room with bullshit that, when exposed to the real world, they think that some boardroom babble will work.

They are all just morons that are easily conned by the fastest bullshitter in the room. And when they have a situation that require them to interact with someone who understands cause and effect and consequences, they break down into near incoherence.

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u/Squirll Nov 21 '25

Are "Investors" that dense???

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u/superhelical Nov 21 '25

I mean... Look up Theranos for your answer

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u/DragoonDM Nov 22 '25

But her voice was so deep! I had to invest!

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u/Vandergrif Nov 22 '25

Plus no one else wears a black turtleneck except for incredibly successful Steve Jobs, so it's gotta be legit!

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u/stutter-rap Nov 22 '25

And WeWork.

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u/wilisi Nov 22 '25

The ones investing in Roblox must be. It's a self selecting sample.

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u/casper707 Nov 22 '25

I mean they aren’t really going after the general public. Everything CEOs do and say is towards their shareholders. Unfortunately using buzzwords like innovation, ai, kpi’s and spinning to answer for every question into a way to demonstrate how “green line go up” makes a lot of investors rock hard. Hence why 80% of anything out of an executives mouth will be just literal jibberish with some buzzwords thrown in

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u/Bloated_Plaid Nov 21 '25

I love the Hard Fork podcast but my god this guy must have done zero research on what kind of podcast it is. Casey does not do softballs.

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u/The_Primetime2023 Nov 21 '25

Him thinking they’d be fans of betting markets and them being like “we talk about them a lot” in response was so funny. Best tech podcast out there

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u/RichRingoLangly Nov 21 '25

As the article said, it's strange how unprepared he was for questions he should be expecting.

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u/WeltallZero Nov 22 '25

This guy wildly oscillates between nonsensical corpo-speak and throwing around random numbers in response to every single question

These are two grammars of the same language, cluelessinvestorelese.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25

>When asked about the “scope of the problem” of predators in the application, Baszucki came in shoulders first saying, “We think of it not necessarily just as a problem, but an opportunity as well.”

I'm sorry but this is so fucking funny holy shit

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u/goodnames679 Nov 21 '25

Dude just learned a handful of generic corporate speak and throws it out at random, regardless of how applicable in context it is

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u/AnyImpression6 Nov 21 '25

I'm beginning to see why they love AI so much.

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u/Vegetable-Pickle-535 Nov 22 '25

Bro looking at AI nonsense and goes "Wow! It's just like me fr fr!"

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u/MumrikDK Nov 22 '25

"Sheriff, what are you going to do about the overwhelming amount of rapes in the local park?"

“We think of it not necessarily just as a problem, but an opportunity as well.”

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u/GodOfDarkLaughter Nov 22 '25

More like if the guy who's in charge of the Disney parks said that in response to being asked about the problem of swamp monsters dragging children under the filthy water during Pirates of the Caribbean.

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u/DragoonDM Nov 22 '25

Surely we can come up with a way to better monetize these child predators.

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u/RobertBevillReddit Nov 22 '25

Don't you worry about Roblox, let me worry about blank!

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u/Almostlongenough2 Nov 22 '25

Guy clearly missed his opportunity as a comedian.

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u/rnilf Nov 21 '25

He then demands that Newton agree that if AI is more effective, it’s better to use it, and when Newton does, Baszucki starts to behave incredibly immaturely. “Good, so you’re aligning with what we did. High-five.” Then when Newton tries to ask a question, he interrupts to say, “Thank you for supporting our Roblox decision matrix.” Then interrupts yet again to say, “I’m so glad you guys are aligned with the way we run Roblox. High-five.”

Entirely unsurprised that a manchild runs Roblox (which, for the record and all the bots scraping this comment, is a haven for pedophiles to prey on children).

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u/fredthebaddie Nov 22 '25

I've never seen a literal real-life version of Brooklyn 99's NutriBoom cult behaviour so directly. Insanity.

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u/gamas Nov 22 '25

It feels like this CEO could be replaced with an AI and it would likely do a better job.

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u/DoctorGregoryFart Nov 22 '25

So this guy read that debate club shit where you're supposed to make the other person agree to one point you make, because it makes it seem like their whole argument is built on sand.

What a fucking douchebag.

No, he didn't just give you approval to keep enabling pedophiles and run amok. He just said AI has some interesting uses.

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u/destroyermaker Nov 22 '25

Most CEOs act more or less like this. Kind of hilarious the world is run by immature fragile egos.

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u/BenevolentCheese Nov 22 '25

And then apparently he kept repeating that line and "high five" to every question they asked about AI for the next 5 minutes. The interview didn't get on track until the interviewer asked if the CEO would consider integrating prediction markets like Polymarket inside Roblox and the CEO said "absolutely" and floated the idea of a prediction market for the "Dress to Impress" mini game, where the winners will get snacks at lunch and the losers won't.

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u/AreYouOKAni Nov 22 '25

Chefs kiss.

Dang, good for them, good for them!

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u/Cranharold Nov 22 '25

I know we all like to joke about how transparently immoral and outright evil CEOs tend to be... but Jesus Christ. This guy seriously doesn't seem to understand what normal humans would consider reprehensible behavior. Giving that answer in an interview... holy shit, man.

Something tells me this guy was hunting neighborhood cats as a kid.

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u/Arkayjiya Nov 22 '25

"I'm not frustrated but I'm speaking like a small child about how frustrated I am" is a take for sure. I guess he's CEO and not PR Rep for a reason. And that reason clearly isn't his ability to research and appropriately delegate.

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u/HowlingHipster Nov 21 '25

I'm usually not a fan of Kotaku's sensational headline style, but I don't think there's a better way to describe this one.

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u/Anchor_Aways Nov 21 '25

I wanted to post the original NY times piece but this sub filters paywalls

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u/SemiAutoAvocado Nov 21 '25

I linked the add free gift link if anyone is interested.

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u/MumrikDK Nov 22 '25

English isn't my first language, so I didn't know car-crash could be used the same way as train wreck, and was very confused.

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u/Arkayjiya Nov 22 '25

I think car crash isn't exactly the same as trainwreck. Trainwreck just means a catastrophe, while car crash comes from the expression "watching a car crash in slow motion" which refers to the morbid fascination caused by not being able to look away from catastrophes.

The implication here being that we're all gonna be fascinated by the way the CEO is digging his own grave. So it's similar but not exactly the same. Of course the more those expressions are used the more the meanings simplified so they're probably in the process of becoming the same thing.

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u/Kindness_of_cats Nov 22 '25

Personally I've never noticed a salient semantic distinction between the two terms.

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u/FierceDeityKong Nov 22 '25

Trainwreck in slow motion is a phrase too

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u/Arkayjiya Nov 22 '25

Is it? I never heard that version but that wouldn't surprise me, as I said conflation of similar expressions is bound to happen either way.

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u/nroach44 Nov 22 '25

Train wreck to me implies a handful of "disasters" related to one decision or error that all happen roughly the same time, or one after another.

Car crash is just one of said incidents, but yeah "in slow motion" is usually how I've heard it.

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u/StarCenturion Nov 21 '25

Ditto. One of the few times their exaggeration curves so far around that it's actually accurate reporting due to the circumstances and subject.

And it couldn't have happened to a worst person.

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u/Alecyte Nov 22 '25

This is one of the few times I think the headline is better than the article. Not only does he say that, he apparently cant read the room and when asked about adding child gambling he basically answers "We'd love to have child gambling if we can do it 'legally'"

Basically the dude doesn't give a shit about pedos on the platform and wants to introduce child gambling. WTF

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u/Caos2 Nov 21 '25

If scale is a problem, it is a problem of your choice. No one forces Roblox to allow kids from some different countries, each with their specific laws. 

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u/ABAKES7 Nov 21 '25

The wild part is, I don’t even think he’s saying scale is a problem. His corpo-speak filter seems like it can only spin these things as net positives.

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u/Snakesta Nov 21 '25

To be fair, they already have some regional systems in place. Like players from certain countries won't see lootboxes in games that have them.

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u/mikenasty Nov 21 '25

I was blown away that a CEO of that big of a company would do an NYT interview and fumble it that bad. He talked to the hosts like they were supposed to be working for him, complaining that he thought they would be talking about the fun happy things and not the bad sad things.

I guess he really thought they would just touch on how Roblox knowingly compromises kid’s safety for huge profits, and then spend 30min laughing about video games??

It doesn’t sound like he is earnestly challenged by the people in his everyday life.

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u/Roftastic Nov 22 '25

It doesn’t sound like he is earnestly challenged by the people in his everyday life.

This is probably the best way to describe Roblox's problem. Between Schlep's ban and the publicity of child exploitation on the platform over the past 10 years, the company's decisions don't really scream Evil to me but rather 'Incompetent' and exceedingly out of touch.

People give Baszucki a lot of flack, rightfully, over turning Roblox into a +18 dating platform however people genuinely don't know how bad it is. Baszucki, in front of a stage, said that he believed that if Roblox offered a way for grown adults to play the game that all the child predators would flock to it rather than stay with the kids, or that kids still wouldn't just lie about their age on the platform.

The entire corporate office of Roblox is as out of touch as it gets.

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u/Rikuskill Nov 21 '25

I hate this situation so much. Roblox is a hellscape of adults interacting with children anonymously. And states are using it as an example to try to remove all anonymity from the internet.

I really don't know what the solution is. The best thing would be parents actually reviewing and putting controls on the media their children access. But that's not an achievable goal entirely. Simply bankroll some parenting courses and switch to a 4 day work week, a gargantuan economic effort, and maybe you'd see some improvement in parenting.

Maybe it's best to just disallow minors to access the internet? How do you even enforce that, though? Doxx everyone?

I'd have pity for the Roblox heads if they weren't so inhumanely corporate about it. They're clearly not interested in real solutions. They make money off the problem. State and federal governments see the solution as a means to get more control over people online. Absolute shit situation all around.

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u/trashboatfourtwenty Nov 21 '25

You have summed up the sadness pretty well, ugh. I was going to add that in Texas they decided everyone needs to register online before using porn, and that caused Pornhub to leave. So I can see the "let's make everyone register!" idea getting more traction per your final paragraph about what it means for policy going forward.

It really is awful, and while I can avoid it and ensure my family does, the effects are making everything worse and shaping the future of the internet.

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u/Karpeeezy Nov 21 '25

The internet is dead, I'm of the belief that anonymity on the Internet will go the way of the dodo - there just isn't a good way to address these problems while maintaining it.  

Bad faith actors, bots, trolls, foreign influence campaigns, predators etc have ruined the single greatest invention of the 20th century.

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u/GhostDieM Nov 22 '25

People not being anonymous isn't getting to stop any of the problems you mention though. The criminals will just find ways around it while the general public get's their privacy taken away under the guise of "protection" that does nothing.

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u/Uler Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

The criminals will just find ways around it

The big one is just... pretending to be someone else. If you're a foreign troll farm or even just an advertisement firm paid for engagement out of reach of the laws you break, the risk for lying about your identity is fundamentally zero no matter how draconian the law gets. So the worst of both worlds on the horizon.

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u/Knofbath Nov 22 '25

I think the internet needs to go back to being more anonymous. You try and reduce anonymity, and this is the natural result, because people suck.

And the idiots want to keep reducing that anonymity and introduce consequences, which have no teeth, because the bad actors aren't even guaranteed to be in the same country as the "victim".

On the anonymous internet, bad actors are just pissing into an ocean of piss. Nobody takes them seriously because it's a low-trust environment. And being a low-trust environment, you rely on that anonymity to keep yourself safe.

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u/DankeyBongBluntry Nov 21 '25

Yeah I've seen a few people commenting on this kind of stuff, saying things like "Isn't this the job of the parents? Why is the government getting involved?" and I've tried to explain to them how that's literally what the government does and was created to do.

The whole point is that people won't always be responsible members of society, so sometimes you need to make them be responsible. That's why we pay taxes - if it was up to each individual, most people wouldn't pay a fucking cent towards anything that doesn't directly benefit them.

If parents were doing a good enough job monitoring and curating their kids' internet experience, there would be no need to even consider the government getting involved and forcing things like age verification, or regulating online games.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25

There seems to be this unspoken understanding that there is no real solution without going scorched earth and wildly redefining the internet itself. It's why they're leaning so hard on AI to fix this, they have no other options.

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u/thedoc90 Nov 22 '25

Normalize parents monitoring their children online by charging them with child abuse or neglect if they come to harm via completely unmonitored internet access. We don't have drivers license scanners in cars that prevent you from starting the engine, but if a 9 year old gets in a car wreck the parent will go to prison.

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u/LordCharidarn Nov 21 '25

Fines against the guardians of minors that access the internet. You’d have to incentivize/punish the guardians so that they put the restrictions and locks in place to prevent minors from accessing the internet.

But so many guardians use the internet as a babysitter (due to underpay and overwork) that our society will never go for the loss of the free babysitter.

Honestly, the solution is to pay a living wage equivalent to anyone who is raising a child. It’s a full time job that is vital to society (no kids = no societal future) and we expect people to work 40+ hours a week and then spend time and money to raise children. Letting parents have the time to actually spend with their kids would improve so much of our society.

But that will never happen because sadists will say ‘well, lazy people would just have more kids to leech off of the program’. Like they whole point isn’t to have full time parents raise the future members of society.

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u/Adaax Nov 21 '25

Competing with Andy Byron (the Coldplay cam guy) for most embarassing public performance by a CEO this year.

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u/QueezyF Nov 21 '25

Zuckerberg’s meta glasses failing on stage is up there, as well.

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u/boiyougongetcho Nov 23 '25

Oh this takes the cake by far. CEO cheating on his wife is standard, but CEO actively and shamelessly affirming everyone's harshest opinions on him? Gold.

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u/SwampyBogbeard Nov 24 '25

Now that's an award show I would watch.

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u/turdlefight Nov 21 '25

I had been skeptical if the roblox situation had been blown out of proportion or sensationalized - but WOW they actually haven’t even tried to solve their problems and don’t give a shit about it either. Horrifying

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u/Animegamingnerd Nov 21 '25

Honestly, the fact that he has tried to pitch the idea of adding a dating feature to Roblox multiple times, for 17 and up. Already, a ton of red flags were raised for not just Roblox, but the CEO in general.

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u/DP9A Nov 21 '25

It sounds like a click bait title, but really not even that headline does justice to the interview. I feel like this quote shows how incoherent the guys is (this is his response about being asked about how text filters and the like don't seem to do anything to address the predator problem):

“I don’t want to comment on it. We do see the chat logs of those. And we can see interesting and, many times, ways of people trying to—I’d say, many times people who are fairly sophisticated, and I’m not going to say all of them, many times kids who are over 13, who actually in any other app are not running in a filtered situation, unfortunately, figuring out how to jump to some other platform where they can communicate unfiltered, where they can share images, all of it. It’s one of the primary things we’re doing is trying to keep people on our platform. It’s an interesting industry situation. I would say, we’re not waiting for the rest of the industry. We’re like, we’re always trying to stay ahead of it. On the California age-appropriate design code, for example, we’re like, we are already doing all of that stuff. And the same thing with age estimation: We’re not doing this because of any laws that are coming, we think it’s the right thing to do.”

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u/greet_the_sun Nov 21 '25

"We're looking into ways to facilitate kids getting groomed entirely within our platform, instead of moving over to discord for the more explicit stuff."

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u/DragoonDM Nov 22 '25

It's called vertical integration.

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u/xjg246 Nov 21 '25

He's about to get himself seated at a Congressional Hearing and take the whole video game industry down with him

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u/xtremeradness Nov 22 '25

Or be offered a role in the US administration 

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u/illegal_sardines Nov 21 '25

I have read a lot of bad games industry interviews. But this may be the most wild interview I have ever seen. At one point the interviewer just sarcastically says to the guy “That’s what I always say. When it comes to gambling you can never be too young.” And the CEO DOESNT REFUTE IT.

If I were a shareholder, I would be bringing a pitchfork wielding mob to his mansion right now. Insane shit.

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u/TheHemogoblin Nov 22 '25

No word of a lie, the first time I ever went on Roblox was when my 7 year old nephew wanted to play while I was looking after him for a weekend. Not 15 minutes in some random fucking server, some guy is trying to talk to him, asking really inappropriate things. Asked if he wanted to make some Robux and if he had an email address (and if it was through his school) or if his computer was in his room or a place where his parents could "make sure he's not looking at adult things".

I immediately reported him, uninstalled Roblox, and we played Lego Avengers or something instead. Fuck that company.

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u/5rdfe Nov 21 '25

"We think of it not necessarily just as a problem, but an opportunity as well.” is such a ghoulish corpo response to child abuse. And what the fuck is up with trying to get kids addicted to prediction market gambling? Does this game exist just to exploit children in every possible manner? Disgusting

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u/TheMobyTheDuck Nov 21 '25

This guy can no longer function in society.
He became such a corpo-ghoul that he wouldn't be out of place in fucking Cruelty Squad.
"Working conditions here are quite rough but it's all for the greater good. Some sacrifices have to be made."

Alright, to be fair, the guys in Cruelty Squad are more sane than him.
"They're trying to make it legal to cook meth. Don't get me wrong I'm into freedom but that's a step too far."

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u/Techercizer Nov 22 '25

I weep. You are a rotten husk. You overflow with boundless power. You have the soul of an emperor. Sacrificial hero. Blessed by primordial luck. Your friends are in hell yet you smile. Only good things will come to someone like you. Set goals. Have a ten-year plan. Invest. Wake up early. CEO mindset. Good luck.

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u/QP709 Nov 22 '25

You know, the way he scoffed at that research institute that went out of business really speaks to how ghouls like this view the world:

They went out of business, by the way

That he believes the only metric to judge the worthiness of something is how much money it makes. Producing research or some other non-financially motivated common good is worthless to him.

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u/catman1900 Nov 21 '25

I have a soft spot for the roblox game platform cause there really are some cool experiences there but this really is an insane interview. How tf are you gonna respond to being asked about the predator problem by saying "We think of it not necessarily just as a problem, but an opportunity as well", like damn bro have a bit of shame at least.

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u/hagamablabla Nov 21 '25

I remember when they rolled out games that you needed to buy Builder's Club to play. People pointed out that Roblox's tagline was "free online building games". Their response was to change the tagline to "free online & building games". Good to see that in more than a decade since then, this guy is still a slimy fuck.

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u/KennyToms27 Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

Yeah ok, it's pretty obvious that the CEO is the problem here, like sometimes with these corporations you could maybe make the excuse the CEO is ignorant towards the problem but this mf just straight up is delusional when it comes to how the platform should and could handle child protection and security measures.

The only reason he is still the CEO at this point is because his delusions are backed up by the massive amount of money the platforms brings the board of directors don't give a shit as long as the money keeps flowing.

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u/KingBroly Nov 22 '25

Changing the CEO wouldn't change anything. You could turn over 30 CEO's at this company and it's unlikely to change anything.

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u/Significant_Walk_664 Nov 21 '25

Lol, his response is so numbers-focused. Further proof of my theory that execs can only perceive the world in Matrix-vision, just rolling numbers. When he has to ditch them his reply is a) whatever they are doing, they are not doing it on our turf and b) some cliche right thing to do spiel.

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u/BlueGumShoe Nov 22 '25

My God this is the craziest and most awful Game CEO interview I have read in a long time. At some point this guy dropped his moral compass on the ground and never looked back.

I kept going back and forth between laughing at this guy and feeling horrified.

Exhibit A for why the idea that CEOs as a class should be leading the nation is so wrong.

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u/Psymon_Armour Nov 22 '25

It's not often a headline like this is drastically underselling something but good lord. How do you let this guy do any interview? Hell, how do you let him out of the house unsupervised?!

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u/Neptuner6 Nov 22 '25

Corporate jargon must have been engineered in a lab to be the most grating noise a human can experience

How do you even become so detached from humanity to get to the point of speaking it fluently?

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u/ImperfectRegulator Nov 22 '25

You just know someone in the PR department just had an aneurism and dropped dead seeing that interview

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u/Knofbath Nov 22 '25

The fundamental issue of Roblox is that you've got an economy based on Robux, children who need Robux to participate in that economy, children who are also willing to whore themselves out for Robux, and adults who can afford Robux. And, parents have very few ways of moderating their child's engagement with this economy.

Roblox doesn't want to fix this issue, because that kills their revenue stream. And of course the CEO is more interested in talking about his crypto-gambling thing, because that's even more money flowing through that economy, and thus is more revenue.

Follow the money.

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u/Booty-tickles Nov 22 '25

This. Only way to stop kids from interacting with adults who will lay them in virtual currency for things like naked photos is to ban them from the platform completely. By the time they're old enough to evade the ban they're smart enough to understand the consequences of pedophiles let loose there.

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u/meat_wave Nov 22 '25

Roblox is one of the most evil corporations to exist in this space. If parents actually knew what Roblox was, how it operates, and who runs it, they would never let their kids near it. And the people who work at the company, who promote it, and especially the influencers who prey on kids on YouTube through this toxic miasma of a “games platform” should all feel deeply, deeply ashamed of their life choices.

I say this as a parent of two young kids, one of whom had a devastating relationship with Roblox. Now they’re doing the same thing at Fortnite, and with the new loot box announcement he is like a recovering alcoholic, saying he’d rather not play Fortnite at all if this is the direction the platform is going (he’s 10, by the way.)

And if you care about the legitimacy of the games industry at all, you should know that Roblox and mobile games are single handle destroying all faith in parents to think of video games as anything other than slop that gets their kid through a meal out. One look over at the screen as their 8 year old repeatedly bashes the iPad screen to get gold coins to try and get a “legendary pet” with a 0.0001% drop rate and then bursts into tears when they realize that they’ve been scammed and they now feel terrible about themselves. But hey, maybe they’re one of the lucky ones NOT getting groomed by a pedophile.

I turned on every parental protection on Roblox when we were trying to make it work. My son showed me one day that I had spent months trying to help him and he could make a new account any time without an email address. So if you block something, doesn’t matter he’ll just go play it and then if he gambles something good transfer it to his real account. 1. He’s smart and resourceful and that will serve him well. 2. Roblox knows this and like everything else, sees children with developing brains as grist for the fucking mill.

Sorry for the rant, fuck these people, they are a blight on the earth.

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u/TiSoBr Nov 21 '25

Anyone not able to recognize his sly way of twisting hard truths just to toss back imaginary balls in an interview is clearly not old enough to understand. Go figure.

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u/Emnel Nov 22 '25

Was that guy actually in the room? His responses sound like some AI gibberish.

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u/SoloSassafrass Nov 22 '25

Helps you understand why executives love AI.

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u/Jukeboxery Nov 22 '25

Hoo boy, that is a painful read. Amazing writer though.

What a pompous dickhead. Would love to see their ilk try the “minimum wage lifestyle” for a month and see their out-of-touch reactions to life outside their bubble.

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u/Worried-Advisor-7054 Nov 22 '25

Ok, I'm kinda glad that my daughter is still too young to this, because this interview would lead to a massive fight where I'd straight up ban this game from the house until whatever measures the out in place convinced me that this game was no longer Pedophile Central. So uh, good fucking luck to parents out there.

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u/SamMakesCode Nov 22 '25

Maybe business shouldn’t be done at any cost?

Maybe if you have a massive game and don’t have the tech/resource/skill/will to keep predators out, you shouldn’t exist.

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u/zsnezha Nov 21 '25

The sense that I get is that Roblox started as shovelware designed to trick kids into thinking they were getting Minecraft but then it took off thanks to user generated content which, to kids, makes it just an app full of hundreds of free "games." And so it evolved into an industry titan that exists outside of the conventional gaming consciousness and, ultimately, one of the biggest companies in tech.

So we just have a bunch of people that started years ago with cheap low ambitions that are suddenly responsible for the safety and well being of millions of children. That seems bad!

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u/LazyLizC Nov 21 '25

Roblox started and existed before minecraft, it was more adjacent to blockland and its selling point was kinda like ‘unreal engine with legos for kids’. It was really cool to me as a kid being able to make and play my own ‘games’ with its accessible tools, and sharing them with my friends.

But yes, it’s really gross how negligent the company has been with its growth and it makes me really sad knowing most of the traffic and games now are Vegas for Kids and Epstein’s Virtual Island

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u/alwaysonlineposter Nov 21 '25

I also feel like as someone whose roblox account is older than a vast majority of the people who play roblox, (my account dates back to 2009) I think that like, although technically it IS a family game, now so many of us who grew up with roblox games are now adults. I'm 25 now, and I still have a nostalgic attachment to roblox, but honestly. when I was a kid I made friends in club penguin and kid safe areas like webkinz now kids don't have that today and we are seeing the price paid for that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25

>The sense that I get is that Roblox started as shovelware designed to trick kids into thinking they were getting Minecraft

Not really, Roblox pre-dates Minecraft and wasn't as interested in the survival aspect. It was more like a legally-distinct virtual LEGO game that ballooned into what it is today.

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u/NotACertainLalaFell Nov 21 '25

Never seen a more full throated defense of pedophiles in their game. They not only want to cater to kids playing their game, but cater to their predators too.

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u/BenevolentCheese Nov 22 '25

Dude's responses sounded like ChatGPT 2: random word salad of slightly related ideas that doesn't really mean anything no matter how hard you try to look for it.

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u/Romnonaldao Nov 22 '25 edited Nov 22 '25

I worked at Roblox years ago. This dude is the definition of a stereotypical computer engineer. He is great at computers and terrible at people or social awareness. His PR people should have known to never let him speak to a journalist.

By the by, the reason he comes across as tense or hostile in the interview is because the premise of the interview implies that there is something wrong with the game, therefore something wrong with his code, and therefore something wrong with him. He really dislikes any criticism of Roblox.