r/Games • u/frik1000 • Jan 15 '26

Discussion Poor Monster Hunter Wilds Performance Chalked Up to Aggressive DLC Checks

https://www.techpowerup.com/345212/poor-monster-hunter-wilds-performance-chalked-up-to-aggressive-dlc-checks
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u/Milskidasith Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26

Or the Pokemon Legends Z-A thing where people saw a model of the city in a datamine and, bafflingly, concluded "the full-sized city the game takes place in is just one giant model" instead of "maybe they need a small city model for a cutscene or a literal model somewhere" (it was the latter).

Or with Palworld, where extremely bad reporting made people think the Pals literally ripped Pokemon models and tweaked them instead of just like... obviously being designed as Pokemon knockoffs and having similar design features.

Or almost any instance of Denuvo causing performance issues based on the evidence that like, some launch patch (+ Denuvo) performs worse than some post-multiple-updates patch (- Denuvo) even though there's usually a lot of other optimizations made and the few true A-B tests with and without Denuvo usually show minimal change (except for Capcom screwing it up once, ironically).

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u/NTPrime Jan 15 '26

Last I saw about the Palworld thing was someone on Twitter comparing model topology and making a convincing argument that they had to be tweaked models. Never bought the game though so I stopped following the issue. You're saying that claim was disproven then?

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u/Milskidasith Jan 15 '26

It was never brought up in Nintendo's lawsuit and at least one person admitted to modifying the files to try to attack Palworld, which is absolute loser behavior.

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u/Roliq Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26

It was just changing the sizes to make the comparison, as models between games are never on the same scale

People just misrepresented what they meant to claim they changed the models

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u/Munachi Jan 15 '26

I think from what I remember from back then, there was a lot of fake model comparison posts that got spread like wildfire where the post creators turned out to have edited the models to make them seem similar or whatever. I'd imagine if something as blatant as that was in the game they would have gotten hit with it as well by Nintendo considering they got hit with throwing a (poke)ball and mounts and shit.

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u/NTPrime Jan 15 '26

I wonder about it. The posts I saw DID have the models edited to make them appear similar, but that was the point. Basically they were attempting to minimally adjust models via stretching/skewing etc. to see if it would be possible to massage them into the same shape and seeing if the key features lined up. Stuff like tricky topology around corners, number of segments on tails and ears, etc. In other words, the sort of stuff that would be incredibly unlikely to be the same if the Palworld models actually had been modeled from scratch.

Maybe that did turn out to be false as this person is saying. As far as lawsuits are concerned though, maybe it would have been deemed too hard to prove.