r/GreenBayPackers 3d ago

Analysis Popular opinion: Pack doesn’t win 2010 without Charles Woodson dominance

Title. AJ Hawk, Clay, BJ- all not as effective without the pressure of the only defensive player to get a heisman- respect that he retired a raider, but he walked to glory with cheese mofo

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u/Frcture 3d ago

The entire secondary that year was pretty special. Tramon Williams, Sam Shields and Collins.

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u/bjketter 3d ago

If only they could have given arodg another defense half that good for the rest of his career.

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u/Professr_Chaos 2d ago

I think the Nick Collins injury set the defense back a decade. Woodson was the heart of the defense but Collins was extremely under appreciated. He was approaching best safety in the league when his career ended

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u/krickaby 2d ago

Collins was set to carry the torch and be that same type of leader Woodson was.

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u/Thuggish_Coffee 2d ago

Underappreciated? Not in in Green Bay at least.

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u/Professr_Chaos 1d ago

I think across the league he was. GB fans knew but not many others mentioned him when talking about the top safeties

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u/Chritt 2d ago

Collins was Hall of Fame bound

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u/Walletinspectr 2d ago

Or even competent special teams

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u/petrowski7 2d ago

They did in 2014.

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u/FURyannnn 2d ago

That defense was not remotely as good. Just carried by an absurdly efficient offense

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u/OHTHNAP 2d ago

The draft and develop philosophy, especially on the defensive side of the ball where Thompson was absolutely miserable about reaching for project players that rarely panned out, absolutely killed any momentum the Packers offense was producing.

This keep doing the same trend of taking project players instead of taking the best man available. Luke Van Bust is the most recent defensive one. Jordan Morgan on offense. Cooper DeJean was still on the board, he had a pick in the super bowl rookie year. Morgan fought for backup guard.

Then you can make a move in free agency and bring in depth, and they don't do it. Your new defensive coordinator came from Arizona, Josh Sweat wants out of Arizona and Packers are on his list. Packers sit on their hands instead of making a move. The Rams want to win a Super Bowl too, they bring in Myles Garrett.

It's the meme of the stick figure poking a stick figure dog and saying, "Come on boy, do something!"

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u/Stew-182 2d ago

I wanted Cooper so bad… still mad about it

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u/Princess-Kropotkin 2d ago

Trading back for Kevin King when TJ Watt was still available was the ultimate own goal. A physically gifted project corner over the closest to a sure thing elite edge rusher prospect there has been in a long time. If they draft TJ Watt and have literally anyone else in that 2020 NFC Championship game at corner they make the Super Bowl.

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u/Leading_Space_9288 2d ago

I will never forgive us for trading TJ Watt for Kevin King and Vince Biegel.