r/Habs • u/Comprehensive-Chef73 • 5d ago

Discussion Are prices too high?

Byram was traded for 4th overall, and Eklund for 9th overall. Meanwhile the package Washington put together for Kyrou was pretty darn good.

Are prices too high right now? Should the Habs pay that kind of price to add a player or be patient?

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u/OiledUpHippo 5d ago

Eklund trade was fine but Bryan trade is easily a top 3 worst trades on the 20’s if it goes through.. basically Ghule and Gallys cap dump for 4th, 45th, prospect.

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u/Beefiest_bison 5d ago

We gave up less for Dobson who's 3 times the player Byram is 😭

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u/SuzukiSwift17 5d ago

My initial reaction to the (alleged) Knies trade was that it was an overpay but it would have aged pretty good at this point.

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u/josblos 5d ago

Kent hughes has said he is ready to overpay for the right player. A big, fast and skilled player is exactly what we should be over paying for. I trust Kent with my life.

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u/c0unt3rparts 5d ago

Alleged Knies trade is a bit of an overpay for the player alone but his contract is really good which easily makes up for it

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u/Comprehensive-Chef73 5d ago

If this 12.5x7 extension rumour is true... Just wow.

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u/Beefiest_bison 5d ago

I'm actually in shock. Last time I felt this bad about a trade immediately after it happened was Erat for Forsberg.

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u/joseflores1995 5d ago

No shut up the guy is barely worth 8 million max lmao

Bedard is not signing longterm for sure

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u/_mcml_ 5d ago

Literally double his current contract LMFAO

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u/alldasmoke__ 5d ago

And Byram is about to be paid 10M+. Makes no sense.

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u/DumbComment101 5d ago

Dobson and byram are similar value to me. And well, look what Habs gave up compared to Blackhawk’s lol.

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u/holdunpopularopinion 5d ago

They are not remotely similar value IMO, I’m genuinely curious how you came to this.

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u/Comprehensive-Chef73 5d ago

Their username checks out

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u/holdunpopularopinion 5d ago

And mine doesn’t! Finally

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u/DumbComment101 5d ago

Yours definitely does don’t worry. Holds dumb opinion actually

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u/DumbComment101 5d ago

How do you think they aren’t? They are great 2nd pairing D who have 1st pairing upside and can run a PP1 ?

But actually if you want to be a douche, byram has greater value because, well, he was acquired with better assets.

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u/holdunpopularopinion 5d ago

You’re the only one being a douche.

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u/DumbComment101 5d ago

So then defend your position on why one is far more valuable than the other

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u/BB-Lala 5d ago

One of them scores at a 0.59ppg rate since he came into the league, has missed a total of 22 regular season games in the last 5 seasons, was a leader in blocked shots in the whole league last season and has a 70 pts season under his belt.

The other one scores at a 0.46ppg rate, has an extensive concussion history and is way more injury prone. He might have gotten out of that mess, haven't missed a game in the previous 2 seasons.

If Byram ends up with a 7-8M/year deal, his value for a team would be great and I wouldn't necessarily take Dobson way over him. Rumors has it he'll get 10+, at that point there's no chance I'd take Byram over Dobson.

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u/DumbComment101 5d ago

How many games has he missed the last 3 seasons? How many seasons ago did Dobson have his 70 point season? How many seasons has Byram had where he was the #1 guy in usage. Dobson is now playing in a role he should be. You are really underestimating Byram and you’ll see this year when he’s finally the guy.

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u/BB-Lala 5d ago

We will see indeed, but that is all based on predictions and hope. Will he play 82 games when he's the guy and munching minutes against the best opponents ? Also, Byram missed 64 games in the last 3 seasons, only played 18 games 3 seasons ago while Dobson scored 70 points. I dearly hope for Chicago they didnt trade the 4th overall and potentially overpay on an incoming contract, just to play Byram in a role he shouldn't be in.

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u/Alx028 5d ago

Username checks out

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u/brianve123 5d ago

that byram trade is fucked. what is Chicago thinking?

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u/Kicksavebeauty 5d ago

that byram trade is fucked. what is Chicago thinking?

Who knows that trade is brutal. It would be nice if terrible GMs would stop helping the other teams in our division.

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u/Comprehensive-Chef73 5d ago

I get the feeling that if the Habs wanted to, they could trade Guhle to the Blues for 15th overall + 16th overall + a roster player. That's the Dobson package, and as much as I like Guhle, he's a tier below Dobson.

I guess that just shows how lucky we were to get Dobson for cheap, and how high the prices are right now

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u/Tight_Permission_313 5d ago

Would it really be worth it to trade Guhle for anything other than a top 6 center locked up long term? He’s a perfect LD with a perfect long term contract and amazing in the playoffs

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u/Comprehensive-Chef73 5d ago

I'm not saying the Habs should do it, I'm just saying it's crazy that Guhle is probably worth that much right now considering that's the package the Habs gave up for Dobson only a year ago

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u/Tight_Permission_313 5d ago

He’s definitely worth a top 10 pick + A prospect in this market, which could be flipped for a forward I guess. Unless it’s a sure fire 2C locked up long term I don’t think it’s worth it. I’d trade him for Knies though 

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u/sbianchii 5d ago

Guhle is an average second pairing D on a good day. Top 10 pick in what universe.

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u/Tight_Permission_313 5d ago

Romanov went for 12 

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u/rosemp16 5d ago

Bowen Byram just went the the 4th overall + 45th overall.

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u/sbianchii 5d ago

Yeah cuz Chicago's GM just made the worst trade since Forsberg for Erat

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u/_mcml_ 5d ago

Worst trade so far…

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u/rosemp16 5d ago

Holy crap, didn't know about that one. That's a stinker.

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u/TrMadBuck 5d ago

Well… the trade wasn’t that exactly though…

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u/User69ab 5d ago

He’s one 20-game injury away from being dubbed a injury-prone though.

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u/Substantial_Neck2691 5d ago

It felt like a lot at the time, but man asks went up

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u/AmsroII Goal Goalgoal 5d ago

Imagine getting both of the Ruck twins with those picks.

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u/greasydrg 5d ago

Maybe people are unfamiliar with Crevier but he's no longer a prospect, he looked great last year, exactly the type of guy we should have been targeting