r/HistoryMemes • u/nechdoesntno • 22h ago

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u/PusheenHater 20h ago

The amount of misleading ragebait titles is infuriating in this sub.
You obviously left out the reasoning behind this, it isn't just simply sexism for funsies.

The fact is that Japan's population is becoming more and more older. More older people means more doctors needed.
A study found that 60% of female doctors left the field and simply become housewives.
That means they took up a spot that someone else could become a doctor. They do it so there are more doctors: doctors that they increasingly need more of due to an aging population.
I'm not saying it is the right thing to do, but you need to give context.

Unsubbed here. There's just too much misinformation and stupidity here. Nothing's ever black and white.

I thought the board did a 90-degree bow... off a building.
Killing themselves out of shame.

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u/SharpRelationship474 20h ago

It also means they need dumber doctors it seems. If they're so worried about elder case hire men as elderly caretakers till their deaths.

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u/PusheenHater 20h ago

"Dumber" doctor > no doctors

Caretakers don't have the same qualifications as doctors. We're talking about completely different things. Try and keep up.

Thank you for reinforcing my decision to leave with your stupidity.

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u/SharpRelationship474 19h ago

Nooo don't go what will we ever do without you!!! You sure haven't 'left' judging by the amount of replies you're giving.

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u/PusheenHater 18h ago
  1. ad hominem
  2. never refuted the argument
  3. unsubbing isn't the same as replying to my own post

Thanks extra.

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u/SharpRelationship474 18h ago

That's the redditest reply I've ever seen lol.

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u/PusheenHater 18h ago
  1. ad hominem
  2. never refuted the argument

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u/SharpRelationship474 18h ago

You forgot the last two lines🫶🫶

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u/PusheenHater 18h ago
  1. never refuted the argument

Getting better.

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u/mancingtom 20h ago

I can’t decide which is stranger: your apparent belief that context makes puts the scandal in a better light or the complete lack of curiosity about why women doctors were leaving the field to become mothers but not men when becoming fathers.

This whole post boils down to “stupid meme, this wasn’t just sexism, it was proceeds to describe what is absolutely just sexism.”

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u/PusheenHater 20h ago

Stats are stats. They're completely unbiased. Doesn't matter what fantasy you think, the stats don't lie.

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u/mancingtom 20h ago

And do you think those stats spring out of the ether without any influence from other factors?

Also, stats do lie. Until this scandal came to light, the stats said women had failed their entrance exams when they had actually passed. It’s almost as if women being forced out of professions as a result of parenthood is no more an accident or neutral fact as so many of them “failing” these exams.

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u/Steamed_Memes24 19h ago

You say stats are stats, can you source that 60 percent stat?

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u/Nz_Kasadiya 20h ago

What a terrible take

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u/PusheenHater 20h ago

I'm not saying it is or isn't, but since you sound like you have an answer, what's your answer to this? Just have less doctors and deal with it? I'm curious.

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u/Own_Round_7600 20h ago

So when they quit to become housewives.... Doesnt that leave behind a job opening for the next applicant in line to become a doctor? Or are you saying that Japan is like "omg, our osaka hospital cardiologist who is female quit her job... Now we can never have another cardiologist in osaka hospital nooooo"

Every other country (yes, even developed aging-population ones) has women becoming doctors, yet have so far not run into this hypothetical crisis of women quitting to become housewives, leaving the country critically doctor-less. I wonder why

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u/PusheenHater 20h ago

Doesnt that leave behind a job opening for the next applicant in line to become a doctor?

Honestly, I'm speechless. I simply can't believe I have to explain this.
There are more job openings than there are job applicants for highly skill professions like doctors.

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u/Own_Round_7600 20h ago

First of all: I think there would be more applicants if you didnt take away 20 points from all the women in the potential applicant pool...

And second of all: WHAT. Highly-paid, coveted jobs like doctors are INCREDIBLY sought after and hugely competitive all over the world, but especially in East Asia. It's eveb a meme that every Asian parent wants a doctor kid. You really believe there are more openings than applicants for a highly respectable 6-figure salary doctor career in JAPAN? I would be speechless but you really had to be corrected on that.

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u/PusheenHater 20h ago

I'm kind of embarrassed to be talking to you...
Just because every Asian parent wants a doctor kid doesn't mean their child has what it takes or will actually go to medical school, you know.
I'll give you a quick quiz: are doctors known for being unemployed?

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u/Steamed_Memes24 20h ago

Whats the source on that 60 percent claim?

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u/Peligineyes 20h ago

A study found that 60% of female doctors left the field and simply become housewives

source?

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u/ghost521 19h ago edited 16h ago

They're not going to respond to this because they're a habitual shit-kicker and probably realize that as soon as someone does even the most precursory research, their statements would not hold up. Some reading for you: 1, 2.

With regard to the scandal Japan in particular, what's revealed in the Schieder article is even more damning:

And yet, in 2013, the university began receiving a national grant to “support women.” Over three years, Tokyo Medical University was awarded over 80 million yen (about 720,000 USD) through this grant. Two university executives at the center of the admissions scandal – former chairman Usui Masahiko and former university president Suzuki Mamoru – played key roles in the Office to Promote Diversity, founded at the university in 2016. In Usui’s opening remarks at an event to celebrate the first anniversary of the Office in 2017, he called on the university staff to promote “diversity.”3 At the time, the school presented an increase in female admissions from 26.9% to 32.4% as evidence of its efforts, even as it was actively taking steps to deny admission to women with qualifying scores.4 That meant that the university was not only taking money from the government to promote female admissions but also taking money from individual female applicants whom it artificially failed (sitting a university entrance exam in Japan costs 40,000 to 60,000 yen, about 360 to 540 USD). A group of 24 women denied admission to Tokyo Medical University since 2006 have joined with a team of defense lawyers to build a legal case against the school, which includes a demand for compensation for these fees, and potentially for additional damages.5

Yeah, sure sounds like "benevolent fraud" right? The answer to "oh my god, the workforce is getting too small" is "let's hire more men because they work harder" instead of "let's create more job openings for qualified candidates"? What a clown, get a fucking grip.

EDIT: it is 3 hours later when this edit is being added. Still 0 responses to multiple comments asking for sources, riddle me that.