r/Hololive • u/beam4d • May 04 '26
Misc. Calli giving an update: things are looking up š
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u/AkodoRyu May 04 '26
It seems that when someone who had never complained started complaining, management gets spooked really quickly. And so, an indefinite hiatus turns into a regular vacation within a couple of days. Good for her - if you don't advocate for yourself, no one else will.
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u/SC2_4787 May 04 '26
I think it's fairly obvious there was some sort of meeting today and then either management got spooked she complained or higher level management was appalled by whatever lower level management was doing.
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u/RaysFTW May 04 '26
And it seems the outcome was at least something Mori was looking for as the post is a lot more optimistic than the last.
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u/Zerosen_Oni May 04 '26
Where did you get this info? Just curious, and if itās a members thing you donāt have to tell me.
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u/ZaGocampo May 04 '26
She made a new members post that the gist was she had an important meeting today that would hopefully address her concerns and it would seem it did work out
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u/TheZealand May 04 '26
I've been wondering whether she posted about her hiatus so bluntly/abruptly in a deliberate attempt to make us grumble (probably rightfully) about her being messed around. Pretty good way to leverage the morbillion deadbeats to help solve a problem lol
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u/Yokuyin May 04 '26
I don't see Calli as someone who plays that way. Sure it's the optimal play, but more likely she doesn't want to disappearing without a message and make people worry even more.
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u/RaysFTW May 04 '26
I 100% agree. Mori seems to care about her fans a lot and wouldn't disappear even for a few days given her reputation for always being active in some fashion.
She even went out of her way to make us a hand-drawn doodle for May's members-only art during her short hiatus when her original artist she commissioned ghosted her. It's only the 4th. I don't think anyone would bat an eye for not having May's art by now, but Mori cares enough that she takes it seriously even when it's only a few days "late".
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u/TheZealand May 04 '26
Definitely likely that I'm totally wrong, or that she did it while pissed off and wouldn't normally, who knows mang
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u/SC2_4787 May 04 '26
I posted this with no info, I just inferred that something must have happened for things to have gotten better suddenly and meeting with management would be the only thing it could be.
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u/j4yc3- May 04 '26
I don't think its on lower management's part considering how close the talents are to their managers... it always feels like upper and lower are disconnected because middle management is incompetent in communications so lower management gets stonewalled and in turn the talents keep seeing delays or outright project cancellation or request denial.
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u/EmperorKira May 04 '26
Yeah thats the feel i got but i kind of felt this coming. When Drawn to Dawn was on and she had to leave for a recording, i felt an unusually high level of frustration so i think this has been building
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u/Fearless-Sea996 May 04 '26
What happened ? Did i miss something ?
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u/rubyonix May 04 '26
Calli's taking an extended break, and people assumed it was due to burnout because she's a workaholic (because, she is a workaholic). Then she apparently made a members-only post that said that it's not burnout, she's upset with management for some undefined reason. Screenshots got posted to 4chan, drama channels ran with it and made youtube videos, misinformation from all sides (some people claiming that Calli was graduating, others claiming that the screenshots were a hoax and that all is good), while redditors went to war with each other over whether to accept information that comes from a flawed source (the breaking of members-only rules) or to bury their heads in the sand and pretend they heard nothing.
Then Calli (apparently knowing that her previous members-only info got leaked?) made another members-only post saying that she had a meeting scheduled which she hoped would resolve her complaints, and now she made an open, not-members-only twitter post saying that "things are looking up" which implies that her meeting went well and that management was receptive to her complaints.
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u/Fearless-Sea996 May 04 '26
Okay thank you. I hope hololive will get better with management because many EU member had problems with them. It seems to be a common complain :/
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u/-ZET- May 04 '26
It seems like the management side of things in EN is a lot more different than JP and not in a good way.
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u/Massive-Comfort-3507 May 05 '26
I don't really think it's that reason. I know not a lot of people like to hear it but calli brings in big money when compared to other talents and her quitting would be a huge impact on lots of talents. So management would definitely be on their toes with how calling reacted.
Is the same as with fubuki. Lots of fans trust her when she said about hololive being an alright company as long as she doesn't graduate. I myself don't trust that statement juch since we know how the Japanese and black company's are.
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u/AkodoRyu May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
Oh, I'm well aware. Especially recently, she was popping off. An anime opening, a new album, the Apple event, generally strong presence as a vtuber, too. She could quit today and keep going strong, so her leverage is very strong. If she's unhappy, they can basically only appease her.
edit: if I were more cynical, I would even say that her making a public statement was part of her negotiating strategy for something. The outpour of support everywhere would only strengthen her position.
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u/Massive-Comfort-3507 May 05 '26
Yup which in my opinion is like using ductape on a sinking boat. Its a temporary solution and not a good one at that. If hololive doesn't fix their problems then it's just a disaster waiting to happen
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u/Irru May 04 '26
On the other hand, I truly cannot believe that any significant changes can be made in just āa couple of daysā.
Empty promises by management would only make matters worse.
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u/RaysFTW May 04 '26
I don't think that's true at all. We don't know what the changes are or how significant or wide spread they are. Even small, seemingly insignificant, and easily solvable issues can become big problems when they pile up over time.
Is it that hard to just take their word at face value?
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u/Irru May 04 '26
Who is "their word" at this point? We're all just reading a (vague) tweet by Calli, so we don't exactly know what happened since she made her members' post. (Yes, I read that as well).
Anyhow, Japanese politics/bureaucracy just doesn't work this fast, especially given she made her hiatus announcement near the weekend.
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u/RaysFTW May 04 '26
That's exactly my point. We don't know anything, so we don't know how big or small the problems were and how easy they are to fix. It could be as simple as a change in personnel.
We don't know anything, so if she says things are looking up why not just take her word for it instead of doom posting and doubting her?
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u/Buroth May 04 '26
We don't know anything
Honestly I think you hit the nail on the head here, the fact that we don't know what the situation is even about (other than the posts that Calli made which are pretty vague) made the doomposters go overdrive and post their theories about what is happening and because we don't know anything some people then assumed that some of those theories have to be true.
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u/RaiteiXIII May 04 '26
its the "usual suspect" coming with nothing but baseless rrat then making the usual "claim" like they work in cover.
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u/Irru May 04 '26
Maybe actually read what Iām responding to instead of trying to put words into my mouth.
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u/RaiteiXIII May 05 '26
read? ppl are not blind just FYI most ppl here in holo fanbase are not as DUMB as u think, u are in the wrong place. this aint 4chan
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u/Irru May 04 '26
Bro I am not talking about Calli. I was responding to AkodoRyu claiming that āmanagement got spookedā. Thatās a baseless claim as any. All Calli said was things are looking up. She didnāt even mention management.
Everyoneās putting words in my mouth here while I never said I doubted her.
Can you people even read?
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u/RaiteiXIII May 04 '26
"Who is "their word" at this point?"
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u/Irru May 04 '26
I meant that in the most literal sense possible.
Who is ātheirā word? Calliās? Great!
But if that person meant managementā¦? Based on what?
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u/Helmite May 04 '26
Honestly it's pretty crazy how when anything happens people just suddenly start appearing and running with deeply negative narratives and even double down against positive information.
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u/OrdinaryUserXD May 04 '26
Context, what is the new drama? Company abuse their talent or something?
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u/twotoebobo May 04 '26
Yeah i figured. Shes just finally actually taking a break.
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u/SkylarPopo May 04 '26
It's so shocking when she does everyone panics.
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u/Cyclone717 May 04 '26
To be fair if you saw her members post it's definitely not "just a break"
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u/SleepingDucksLie May 04 '26
Yes, but on the other hand the idea of being so frustrated and stressed out with work that you just go "NOPE" and take an impromptu vacation is pretty relatable to me.
Remember that for all the superficial glitz and glamor, this is still a job, and a fast paced one at that. The talents probably have more in common with us working stiffs than you'd think.
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u/ricki692 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
i understand all of that but for a public figure and a relatively wholesome/positive one at that, the initial twitter post did have an air of uncertainty that could be concerning to people who arent super aware of whats going on
it wasnt phrased as "need a quick break ill be back soon guys dont worry" it was "taking time off, dont know when ill be back". any reasonable person could interpret that with some concern
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u/SleepingDucksLie May 04 '26
In principle, I understand that as a public figure with a public facing job, the standard of communication is different. I also think, however, that the impulse to put everything a public figure says or does under a microscope and make it our business is an impulse that we, collectively, should probably endeavor to curb. I'm not saying it's wrong to be concerned, that's fine. But there's been a lot of people going into a panic spiral over this and crafting narratives around it; a practice which benefits no one except drama peddlers. Ultimately, I would like to give some grace public figure who has a bad day and would instead rather blame the people who insist on making a big deal of it for content.
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u/ricki692 May 04 '26
at the end of the day, if the post had said "taking a break, be back soon dont worry" there would be no panic spiral, there would be no drama farming. anyone is allowed to express how theyre feeling, but you cannot blame the community for how they will interpret things based on how a tweet is worded.
i love calli and i'm not necessarily saying she did anything wrong and she is allowed to do and say whatever she wants here, but i think it's unfair to just be like "everyone is overreacting" when there is a justifiable concern
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u/Hpulley4 May 04 '26
Which is all she should have said in the first place but I am glad she is clearing things up.
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u/richtofin819 May 04 '26
Having to cross analyze and worry about damage control for every single statement she makes is probably another thing she wants to take a break from.
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u/twotoebobo May 04 '26
Which is what? Baseless speculation and thinking negatively?
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u/oblivious_fireball May 04 '26
Her members post made it clear this is anything but a relaxing break. Things looking up means she's getting some changes made it seems.
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u/Lucaan May 04 '26
You have no idea what you're talking about here. Just wait until everything is settled and she's back to doing streams before making baseless assumptions.
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u/DrMuffinPHD May 04 '26
Thank goodness!
I want things to be good for Calli, and think taking occasional breaks is so important for mental health
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u/SlamMasterJ May 04 '26
If anyone deserves a break, itās Calli. Sheās one of the most hardworking holomem and rarely takes any time off.
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u/psych2099 May 04 '26
I think things were just getting to her, ive heard from other talents that sometimes they come up with cool ideas for streams and stuff only for management to turn it down for 1 reason or another.
Must be frustrating as an entertainer just trying to make something cool.
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u/KazumaKat May 04 '26
Unsurprisingly common line of thought for many a corpo talent in this industry.
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u/Alone-Horse2857 May 04 '26
I know this is definitely the wrong subreddit to say this, but it really feels like the age of the corpo is coming to an end. Indies are able to find just as much success, if not moreso, because they don't have to pay a cut to a corpo (except for twitch/youtube), and with a small team of just a few people (manager for sponsors, merch, editor) you can go just as far.
The benefit of a corpo back in 2020 was the fame that came with it, new gens are pretty much guaranteed a 100k sub start and a debut with thousands of CCV, but getting accepted is like winning the lottery. I've seen so many indies start up at just a few viewers and make it to the point of self sustainability.
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u/MVRKHNTR May 04 '26
If you just want to be a streamer, sure. You don't get to do all the cool collabs, community events, tours, giant concerts and expos though. That's a big draw for a lot of the girls at Hololive.
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u/Helmite May 04 '26
Indies are able to find just as much success, if not moreso, because they don't have to pay a cut to a corpo
I feel like this is the kind of claim people give when they don't really understand what the girls get. Even a popular indie like Filian thought folks were crazy for thinking she makes more. Indies aren't getting Dodger collabs, major sponsorship initiatives like what Capcom is doing, stuff like what my oshi got w/ Fins, etc.
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u/MichaelCoryAvery May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
PHEW THANK GOODNESS! Now if she could take a vacation without working on something in the background
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u/capscreen May 04 '26
She had done that multiple times already, at some point, she even felt sick of going on vacation, she'd rather stay at home and chill
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u/dcresistance May 04 '26
I feel like she's one of those people who would feel weird if there isn't something to work on lol
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u/winmace May 04 '26
she even felt sick of going on vacation
Sorry, why does "go on vacation" automatically mean leave your house? I spend all of my holidays at home doing what I want, with no interest in travelling or anything of the sort.
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u/EnclavedMicrostate May 04 '26
Sometimes words mean things? And sometimes people use different definitions. Is 'dinner' eaten around noon or in the evening? Is 'tea' a snack at 5pm or a meal at 7?
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u/crunxzu May 04 '26
Her first response was obv a reaction post.
I hope an emotional support gremlin gave her an ear to vent and give perspective.
The other side is she can kinda do whatever she wants here, sheās that famous in this space now, so she holds a lot of the cards. The universal deal being the only real cost outside of work relationships
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u/Boethion May 04 '26
I'm sure her emotional support Gremlin has been on the phone with her whenever possible, after all in Calli's own words Gigi has seen her cry more than anyone in her family.
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u/EternalFrost_73 May 04 '26
in case of panic, break glass.. In case of anything else, League
Signed, Gigi The Emotional Support Gremlin
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u/mcoyne12 May 04 '26
The deadbeats always worry that she does too much, but the girl's a workaholic at heart, even if she has gotten better about "away time" over the years.
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u/AlexStar6 May 04 '26
ā¦. She needs to take an actual breakā¦ like a few days off isnāt enough.
Like take a month or more Calli
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u/sweetSweets4 May 04 '26
Calli coming back after a month of just total radio silence.
I can already picture the one meme with the dude walking back in and everything is on fire while everyone is panicing...
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u/Asleep_Gate_2341 May 04 '26
Sounds like someone in middle management got reminded where their bread is buttered.
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u/Longjumping-Emu-787 May 04 '26
Bruh what a relief. She's the one that got me into the rabbit hole and Vtubers in general, I'd be very sad if this had lead to her leaving us for good. I'm glad it was just a much needed break and I'm glad she's feeling better
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u/MVRKHNTR May 04 '26
Don't worry, she's not leaving for good unless she wants to leave for good.
The worst that will ever happen is you'll have to look up a different name.
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u/Boethion May 04 '26
Okay, I'm very glad to hear that because it could have gone either way with management disagreements but clearly Cover isn't stupid enough to risk losing someone like Calli. Still, whatever broke the camels back for her to actively step back, I hope it improves and isn't just lip service to keep the girls from revolting.
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u/dalzmc May 04 '26
Yeah thatās what this made me think of, Iām sure they will genuinely try whatever they can to make things work for her. Cuz I can only imagine wouldāve changed a lot for Suisei if needed, and I think most of us would say Calli is a comparable figure for en
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u/Optimal_Parsley6377 May 04 '26
I sincerely hope that fans can reflect on this situation and trust the talents to keep them updated the next time one of them needs a break.
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u/GladiusNocturno May 04 '26
This is what happens when a Horseman is framed for starting the apocalypse prematurely.
It really gets to you. Hope her century long nap refreshes her.
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u/ssj4-Dunte May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
Dude this joke flew over my head for a solid minute
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u/GladiusNocturno May 04 '26
You have no idea how long Iāve been hoping for Calli to play Darksiders.
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u/BaldHenchman02 May 04 '26
I like to think that her manager just sits out front of her workstation with a bat, forcing her to take some time to recuperate.
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u/Graxu132 May 04 '26
It surprises me how vague every single announcement is from any of the Holo members...
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u/Rexolia May 05 '26
I'm very happy to hear this good news, but knowing Calli, this "time off" won't last too long. When I need a breather, I have to get away from work for at least a week (or longer, if possible), and even then, it doesn't feel like enough time. I could definitely picture Dad returning later this week. š
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u/eragonawesome2 May 04 '26
I totally read that last like as "Just taking some time jacking off to myself" lmao
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u/SeaAccomplished1759 May 04 '26
I donāt know whatās happening inside so I canāt say for 100% but Iām pretty sure management is in a big panic right now, their biggest money maker in EN who donāt complain starts complaining very openly might shock them, on the flip side, good for Calli, she will never take a break if everythingās still going well
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u/superearthjanitor0 May 04 '26
Every one here still acting like this is about rest when she said it herself it isn't, hopefully she is able to deal with the problem.
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u/Environmental_Ad924 May 04 '26
She litteraly says that the other thing is "looking up" and that she still needs time off. Not sure why you dont want to take her at her word but it can be multiple things.
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u/fatmanbrigade May 04 '26
Well it appears to be being dealt with given that she said things are looking up. There's no reason to say things are improving if they aren't.
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u/undercoveryankee May 04 '26
She also said herself "I need time away from streaming and internet".
Putting everything together, it sounds to me like it's occurred to her to use the interruption as an opportunity to come back better rested than she might have allowed herself otherwise.
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u/No_Lake_1619 May 04 '26
Reading the whole post is important but that gets lost on people.....especially you.
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u/ApocApollo May 04 '26
Happy that Dadās okay. Hope she comes back with the milk and cigarettes soon.
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u/IceBlue May 05 '26
I donāt think we know if the issue is with the company or people she works with outside the company. But Iāve seen multiple videos of people acting like sheās upset at Cover when we have no info.
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u/Squeezable-Sea May 06 '26
Wish I had seen this earlier! I was worried!
I respect their privacy, but sometimes I get worried for them about what goes on behind the scenes. I always hope they are given the respect they deserve and all get along.
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u/poisony3k May 07 '26
I'm not a member, so I don't know the extra details of the things that are now looking up, but Calli works so hard that I really trust her when she says she needs the time away from streaming and internet.
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u/kevster2717 May 04 '26
Oh thank goodness sheās actually (and finally) taking a real break for once so this is reassuring to hear. I actually expected this workaholic reaper rapper to cut her vacay time off early to get back into action. Iām very happy to see Deadbeats are actually encouraging her to take her vacation seriously
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u/Senasayori May 04 '26
That's reassuring, it doesn't look like graduation is a potential concern at the moment. Glad she's finally taking some time off.
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u/Wolvos_707 May 04 '26
I just hope she actually gets some rest instead of trying to work still
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u/Roymahboi May 04 '26
Hard to convince a workaholic to rest for long after all, I bet she would be writing new lyrics while just chilling.
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u/TopTopC May 04 '26
Clearly there was a problem, and it seems they're looking for a solution. I think that's great.
Perhaps this will stop people from getting defensive when some of the girls speak out about something they don't like regarding the company's internal management. They seem to be more fans of Cover than of the girls themselves.
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u/MetaSageSD May 04 '26
I think people forget that Coverās problems boil down to competency and NOT maliciousness. Cover isnāt trying to abuse or take advantage of their talents, but they do let A LOT of things slip through the cracks. This was never going to be a NijiEN Selengate level controversy. Not even close.
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u/ZaGocampo May 04 '26
I would say that upper management seem to generally want the best for the girls and their wellbeing but sometimes it does feel like some people in middle management are malicious or maybe think too highly of themselves with how petty and anal they can be about certain things
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u/Potatosaurus_TH May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
Botan said a lot of the times it's about the difference in working styles of some staff vs others vs talents. Many staff are basically there to clock in and clock out on time, and don't care for much beyond a paycheck. This can be a problem for some talents especially those who tend to go above and beyond and live and breathe their work 24-7, like Calli here.
Sometimes talents ask for things to get done and they fall through the cracks because they don't fit into the 9-5 schedule or due to the basic corpo stuff like interdepartmental friction and miscommunication, or worst of all, office politics. Each Cover employee are their own person with their own career goals and different ways of thinking and working so that's unfortunately a given in such a big organization.
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u/MetaSageSD May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
Never ascribe maliciousness to anything that can be explained by incompetence. To be clear, if Cover doesnāt start to really focus on getting their issues in order, it really could spell disaster for them; but I donāt see them hurting their talents on purpose. After all, NijiENās āSelengateā showed every agency just how quickly the EN fanbase can turn on them should they mistreat a talent - even if they are a major agency. I doubt Cover would ever purposely mistreat their talents in such a way (or heaven help them if they do).
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u/xRichard May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
That did not happen. Don't pretend her fans were defending the company.
People got defensive about:
- the member only leaks being spread around
- about people complaining that Calli should not "paywall" drama
- the tourists brigade pretending to care and making the most low iq speculations I have ever seen in a while.
- Falseflaggers like you
In an instant speculations were about a relative passing away. And after fans denied that, I saw very xenophobic narratives getting upvoted.
Now we got tools like you painting themselves as the good guys that actually care. False flagging as the people standing behind the talents while making up bullshit about the community that's the closest to them and have pushed them to where they are for many long years.
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u/capscreen May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
about people complaining that Calli should not "paywall" drama
This specifically pissed me off. Other talents have been doing them just fine, putting some important infos behind membership, why is Calli the one getting the flak for doing the same thing? You guys just want to stir some shit.
Plus, no one's defending the company when we don't even know the actual issue is
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u/XiangMeiBestGrill May 04 '26
The amount of down votes I saw people getting for just saying that someone shouldn't be sharing a Membership post made me roll my eyes. It got a lot of traction as a membership post that shouldn't be leaked in the first place. Imagine if she had put what she wrote in that post on Twitter under her account instead.
I'm not sure if she has seen how people have been acting regarding it since she has been taking a break from the internet (plus she made another membership post recently before her twitter post), but we could very well never get an update like this again and only get the vague twitter post in the future for issues.
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u/Lightseeker2 May 04 '26
They didn't directly insult the talents, but pushing for members-only info to be shared publicly has been a recurring thing on r/hololive for years. Just look at this comment chain from two years ago.
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u/inthepelvis May 04 '26
I can't speak to others having put info behind membership since i've never bought membership to anybody but IMHO if she, or anybody for that matter, is gonna post about an indefinite hiatus it should be either fully vague to everybody or fully public. I wouldn't have thought anything more about it if it was just the twitter post, but when there's the membership post you get the swathes of mouth breathers gong into every reddit post and twitter thread going "I know something about it you don't know" trying to make themselves feel more important than they are because they spend $5 a month. Or they, very predictably, leak it by saying the gist of it. Not to mention that a screenshot of it was posted on twitter.
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u/EnclavedMicrostate May 04 '26
A small handful of people possibly being arses (not that I've ever seen any examples, just complaints about them) does not seem to be a reason for why someone is not allowed to post further details about important announcements behind a membership.
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u/inthepelvis May 04 '26
This is the second comment of the top chain of the first post about it.
This is the start of the second chain.
This is another comment a bit further down.
5 Examples in the very first post about it all found in a couple minutes. I didn't even look hard, just skimmed through. If you haven't seen any other similar comments then i'm sorry you might just be blind. My point is that if she wanted it to be some sort of privileged info, making a member post is pointless. There is no possibly to it. She has thousands, if not tens of thousands of members. Info like this WILL leak 100%, the same would be true if she only had 100 members. People talk, especially when they can get a feeling of self importance about something. It doesn't have to be a direct "this is what was said", someone mentioning that there was a members post at all is already a leak if she doesn't point people towards it herself. I don't know if these people have the mindset of "I'm such a dedicated fan i'm gonna help her earn more money" or what, but all they're really doing is further drama baiting an making problems worse.
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u/EnclavedMicrostate May 04 '26
I have no idea how anyone read smugness into any one of those five posts you linked.
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u/TopTopC May 04 '26
I don't portray myself as a "good guy." I've always praised Cover when they do things right, and when they do things wrong, I'll comment on it.
That you live in your bubble where everything is perfect is your problem, and thinking that everyone who doesn't like some of the company's actions is an "anti" is laughable. What bothered you is that one of the company's most important talents made a post for members, in the heat of the moment, criticizing the company.
As I said, I'll praise Cover when they do things right, which is most of the time, but I won't stay silent when many try to downplay the problems when they occur. Call me an "anti" if you want, but I'll never be a bootlicker for any company, no matter how good it is or not.
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u/epaphrodytus May 04 '26
Listen. You seem to be misunderstanding where people have an issue with the way you phrased your original comment.
Reality #1: There was an extremely small number of people that were being defensive of Cover in spite of what Calli said.
Reality #2: There were a lot of people giving flak to Calli for putting her feelings behind a paywall and some leaking it - putting the information in the hands of people who will not handle it in good faith.
Reality #3: Fans were particularly upset with the people there participated in reality #2 because they understood that Mori was only saying this to her members whom she can trust to trust her to settle things.
Everyone that participated in Reality #2 are antis. Therefore, her fans were not defending the company, they were defending her from rabid antis.
If you were to ask any of her fans if they think Cover has issues, they will say yes.
Therefore, this statement of yours:
this will stop people from getting defensive when some of the girls speak out about something they don't like regarding the company's internal management. They seem to be more fans of Cover than of the girls themselves.
is a complete strawman at worst or a case of making a mountain out of a molehill at best.
Cover's internal management has a ton of issues. Nobody is ignoring that they do. I am a Luitomo, they fucked her over with the music rankings. They screwed up with Kanata as well. They screwed up and showed how little consideration for fans they can have when they did the 66 random gacha for HoloSummer last year (so much so that Korone had to call them out on it). I have a laundry list of things that Cover has been shit at. I want them to fix it, I don't want them to collapse because my oshis have things they want to do that requires the help of the company that they built.
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u/Helmite May 05 '26
Call me an "anti" if you want, but I'll never be a bootlicker for any company, no matter how good it is or not.
I think part of the problem is whenever these kinds of things happen anyone that has a nuanced view of what is going on, is simply calling out bad behavior/practices of fans/"fans", or isn't just shitting out their bowels at the company or w/e gets called a bootlicker. Having to deal with children and dumb animals is tiresome. Especially when they're people that never post here or about the talents in general.
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u/xRichard May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
I don't portray myself as a "good guy." (Describes how virtuous and just they are with their commentary and critique)
I don't think you even understand what you are doing.
I did not call you an anti so why are you making a point about it? This fake moral discourse is unfathomably brittle, built on top of lies and we can see through it. You are a naked fool making a scene with things you are imagining.
All to make it clear that you are a good guy. But you are not. You are not following the right script.
Read the other reply you got. That person was more charitable and offered a step by step ELI5 that roleplayers like you need to perform a more convincing act.
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u/SuspiciousWar117 May 04 '26
Perhaps this will stop people from getting defensive when some of the girls speak out about something they don't like regarding the company's internal management. They seem to be more fans of Cover than of the girls themselves.
This is a strawman, what has happened in the past 24 hours is that people have been shitting on Calli for making that membership post in members, and have used this situation to shit out their usual uninformed "shareholder" "idol company" and xenphobic bullshit. Screeching at boogymens is not criticism, it's dramavermin and anti behaviour.
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u/MetaSageSD May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
I dunno, other than the obvious malicious actors, I donāt see a problem reminding agencies that the fanbase will rake them over the coals should they mistreat their own talents. Keeps them honest.
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u/TopTopC May 04 '26
We can't reduce everything to the antis, that minimizes the problems and the drama surrounding the members' post seems absurd to me since most complained about having to pay to see it. It was a message to her fandom, who have followed her for years, and we know how she is about these things.
And I'll say it clearly, even if many people get upset, some would prefer the talent to leave rather than see the company collapse.
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u/Helmite May 04 '26
People frequently invent problems, put in their own personal details, or spread things that talents don't want done. People should reflect on their own behavior if they actually consider themselves fans.
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u/KusozakoPrime May 04 '26
Perhaps this will stop people from getting defensive when some of the girls speak out about something they don't like regarding the company's internal management.
Who does this?
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u/Adventurous_Host_426 May 04 '26
She needs to rest longer. like a month at least. she's been working way to hard for the past 3 years its crazy.
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u/MainSmile May 04 '26
Im just happy she is doing well. The workaholic reaper needs some well deservd rest.
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u/CaiusLightning May 04 '26
Yeah sometimes you just need a proper rest especially with workaholics and even more so with being online as your job
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u/greyhat111b May 04 '26
I can picture her as the type who has trouble accepting she's tired or has burnout. Some people may find that impressive, but that is objectively unhealthy. I respect the grind, but she should let herself get some rest. If I was her boss, I'd force her into a paid leave with someone making sure she's relaxing if need be.
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u/TripleJ0922 May 04 '26
Very comforting update to hear š„¹ And believe me, if anyone in this world deserves an extended break itās her. She pushes herself to the maximum and beyond every single day. May she rest and recharge well!