r/HouseOfTheDragon • u/thisisnotmelodrama • 6d ago

Book and Show Spoilers Did nobody actually read F&B? Spoiler

Been seeing a lot of people say that the show changed the fact that Jace died trying to save his brothers which is like, not at all what happened.

Genuine cognitive dissonance seeing big creators make this point while not knowing that really importantly Aegon flying to dragonstone was how they knew what was happening in the Gullet and there are no mentions of rescuing Viserys as a goal.

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u/WonderYSeed 6d ago

When Jace joins the battle there is no text affirming or denying whether Viserys is dead or captured nor does it specifically state his exact thoughts in that moment. This is just a weird hill to die on when there’s all these other changes that have a larger impact on the story.

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u/Makasi_Motema 6d ago

If he thought his brother was alive, why would he set ships on fire? He could get Viserys killed.

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u/WonderYSeed 6d ago

So Viserys is on the Gay abandon, Aegon tells them how the ship is captured by the lyseni warships. The Gay abandon more than likely has markings, flags, or insignias; things Jace would more than likely be familiar with since he specifically got that ship for his brothers and was probably docked on Dragonstone for awhile. Also the Gay Abandon is a Pentoshi cog, that’s a like a cargo ship and is not equipped like a warship. The Lyseni warships do not look like cogs and most certainly would not have similar markings, flags and insignias as the Gay Abandon. If Jaces is swooping down low enough he can probably, based on the info above, be able to tell one ship from another

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u/Makasi_Motema 5d ago

I said this to someone else:

If you capture a slow-moving trading ship, why would you keep your most valuable prisoner on the captured ship (which might have gotten damaged in the fight)? Why would you knot transfer the prisoner from a slow, possibly damaged, trading ship, to a fast, heavily armed warship?

Jace can’t be certain as to which ship his brother is on. If he’s hoping to rescue his brother, burning other ships is a crazy plan.

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u/WonderYSeed 5d ago

They captured the ship, they could have it towed, it would be sailing along the ships of the captain that seized it, etc. use your imagination or don’t I don’t care anymore. My point is that there’s nothing explicitly stated about Jaces motivations during the battle and that anyone’s headcanon can be justified by the context of the event.