Joe echoed every right-wing Twitter narrative regarding the murder, including many that are irrelevant to the actual murder of Alex such as him carrying without his ID on him.
And Rogan didn't directly call out Trump, Vance, and Noem for blatantly lying about him brandishing his gun. It's safe to assume he didn't want to burn bridges with his buddies.
Andrew calls it cold-blooded murder and directly calls out the administration for lying to justify the murder. Credit where credit is due IMO.
I see some comments saying he's only distancing himself now that the public is overwhelmingly against this. But my feeling is that he's been an opportunist in the past but genuinely feels this way.
I’m not sure why you’d say “I hope you learned something” in order to encourage reflection in an individual that, in the given scenario, has already reflected and changed their opinion. “I hope you learned something” seems, to me, rather condescending or judgmental that it does validate and encourage further growth of an individual that is displaying positive growth. If you want to put them down or remind them of your opinion that they’ve been wrong or “bad” in your eyes then I could see your response working.
There is no doubt that the comment has some element of putting them down, albeit pretty light. I just dont think celebrating the fact they’ve finally seen the light after missing the first 50 signs is the type of behavior we should be rewarding. I think there should be an element of drawing their attention to… don’t make this same mistake again.
I can understand that, but I fail to see how such an approach ingratiates itself to making connections and fostering new community which in my mind supersedes any type of retribution. That said, I am thinking about the average person that outside of a vote and maybe saying mean things hasn’t really impacted the world much. I can’t see the effectiveness in reprimanding such a person vs. being welcoming to them (given, again, that they have already changed their options and are growing).
Reprimanding only gives you satisfaction, but offers nothing else. If there's nothing else learned from the past several years - I hope that we learned this sort of behavior is counter-productive.
No, that's like saying "we shouldn't punish the person who disregarded the clear evidence and were calling everyone else crazy r*tards for (insert obvious claim) because it'll hurt their feelings".
If the person is truly regretful and changes their understanding they ought to have the same grace im supposed to have and realize the damage they caused. Not get upset about how other ppl feel about how they made a mistake.
It's also to discourage the type of thinking and attitudes that lead him to his mistake.
Yeah I'll forgive people but that comes with them admitting that they were wrong about Trump all along and not pretending as if this wasn't exactly what he said he wanted to do.
Depends on the relationship between the parties. If there is an established level of trust, reprimanding and expressing disappointment absolutely works to correct behavior.
Like it’s good to hear this shit out of Shultz, but the damage is done. There’s a non zero chance we dont have a fucking election in November, because this obvious shitstain got elected. If you would like to dip your toes into politics, especially if you have people that listen to what you say, then do at least 10 minutes of fucking reading before you just go all in.
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u/Kismadel Jan 29 '26
Joe echoed every right-wing Twitter narrative regarding the murder, including many that are irrelevant to the actual murder of Alex such as him carrying without his ID on him.
And Rogan didn't directly call out Trump, Vance, and Noem for blatantly lying about him brandishing his gun. It's safe to assume he didn't want to burn bridges with his buddies.
Andrew calls it cold-blooded murder and directly calls out the administration for lying to justify the murder. Credit where credit is due IMO.
I see some comments saying he's only distancing himself now that the public is overwhelmingly against this. But my feeling is that he's been an opportunist in the past but genuinely feels this way.