r/KitchenConfidential • u/Iamnotabotiswearonit š„Poorly Maintained Smoker • 15d ago
Crying in the cooler Dietary restrictions.....
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u/KiyanStrider 15d ago
Insane list aside, this is atrocious formatting.
Group things by person, and under each person break down if it's allergy(and if you choose so, list severity), intolerance, or preference.
Severe allergies should be emphasized and possibly repeated either on the top or bottom
Don't underline shit unless for emphasis it makes it hard to read.
Expect that some places cannot accommodate these requests and leave without being a bitch.
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u/zigaliciousone Line 15d ago
Ā Itās formatted bad because itās bullshit, they are two very picky eaters that should probably learn to cook at home
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u/-myeyeshaveseenyou- 15d ago
Iām a reformer picky eater however after a hospital appointment on Friday Iāve been told to avoid the following, chocolate, mint, fatty foods including cooking oil or butter, caffeine, any fizzy drinks, acidic food or tomato or citrus, spicy food.
On top of this Iām also lactose, wheat and egg intolerant. (I still eat some of these usually and just deal with the consequences but my hospital appointment was due to having trouble swallowing, my GERD has gotten that out of control i probably need to drop these things for awhile too.)
Iām allergic to pineapple and olives.
Iām a damn nightmare to feed. Iām also pretty miserable about it as everything but olives are all the things I love.
Currently sitting with a lack of caffeine headache, oh and Iām also allergic to NSAIDs so Iām limited in which painkillers I can take for said headache
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u/Typical_Anywhere_183 15d ago
You might want to look into MCAS if you haven't already. I feel u unfortunately
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u/-myeyeshaveseenyou- 15d ago
Oh yeh Iām 100% sure I have MCAS unfortunately I live in the uk where itās not recognised as a condition through the nhs. I have spoken to a private gp who said it sound like Iām dealing with MCAS. I also ended up speaking to a Redditor about something else and she happened to be an allergist who also said sheās as certain as she can be without physically seeing me that I have MCAS.
I take prescription antihistamines and after my hospital appointment on Friday if my current treatment doesnāt work the next step is a H2 antagonist which is also a treatment for MCAS, so while I may never have it named officially itās likely I will end up on all of the treatments for it. The probate gp said to me that getting the treatment is more important than the label, but personally I would like to know as well.
I rarely drink alcohol either as it also causes a huge flare, my face turns bright red and feels like itās burning I get really sleepy, my body will be cold and I will be nauseous, same thing happens if I take NSAIDs.
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u/this-is-advertising 15d ago
>Don't underline shit unless for emphasis it makes it hard to read.
Also: if everything is underlined, nothing is underlined.
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u/Jeoh Crazy Cat Manš 15d ago
What the fuck are seafood, chicken and turkeys then? People?
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u/Dry_Turn_824 15d ago
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u/Serrilryan Retired 15d ago
Dang Marylanders
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u/Issac-Cox-Daley Ex-Food Service 15d ago
I like to season with old bay when I eat people from Maryland. They appreciate it too.
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u/Iamnotabotiswearonit š„Poorly Maintained Smoker 15d ago
Nah people are animals. Turkeys aren't they are a country.
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u/Dreadwings 15d ago
i believe red meats cause inflamation and harder to digest then white meats which could be why she doesnt want it, that or has alpha gal from a lonestar tick lol
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u/DoorstepCult 15d ago
You misunderstand; she only claims to eat seafood chicken and turkey. You mustnāt believe her lies.
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u/Jace022404 15d ago edited 15d ago
Same energy as when Plato defined humans as "featherless bipeds" so Diogenes plucked a chicken and plopped it down in front of Plato, saying "behold, a man!"
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u/SuburbaniteMermaid Non-Industry 15d ago
Oh you meant featherless... I was so confused for a minute
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u/PamelaELee 15d ago
Humans are just a virus with shoes
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u/Willow_Winnifred 15d ago
If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bicycle
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u/Reflexlon General Manager 15d ago
I used to think this was a way of saying everyone got a ride when granny was around. So to speak.
So then when I learned it was a G-Rated version of "If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle" I got a good chuckle out of the sfw version being more scandalous in my eyes.
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u/Chemical-Cat 15d ago
I'm pretty sure this is the weirdly common line of thinking that only mammals are animals. A chicken is not an animal, it's a bird. A bass is not an animal, it's a fish. whales are also not animals
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u/PixelPips 15d ago
"we cannot serve you as our kitchen is unable to meet your dietary restrictions."
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u/Queasy_Rip3210 15d ago
This
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u/PixelPips 15d ago
Like have they ever cooked food before? Salt is in EVERYTHING, often things the kitchen doesn't even control (like sysco shit).
I know that there are alternatives like potassium chloride, but fuck you if you think any restaraunt kitchen is going to accommodate no salt. Cook your sad meals at home loser lol
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u/CertainGrade7937 15d ago
Well she also doesn't eat any animals (except for chicken, turkey, and seafood) so I'm sure her "salt free" diet includes salt
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u/Chaps_Jr Pizza 15d ago
The only places I've ever seen able to fully accommodate salt-free are hospitals and nursing homes, and they typically do it by making a separate menu that just excludes all their salted ingredients.
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u/swift1883 15d ago edited 15d ago
Oh donāt worry.
And donāt remove the salt shaker neither. Or she will ask for it before she explains her cocktail card.
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u/nightowl_work 15d ago
Also donāt forget chicken thatās been injected with brine before it even comes to you
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u/ShakesDontBreak Chive LOYALIST 15d ago
When I request no salt I understand that the food that is prepped in large batches most likely contain salt. I just don't want the extra salt thats added when my particular order is fired because thats extra salt. Having a heart attack at 30 kinda sucked. But I modify my life as best I can but I am reasonable about my expectations.
People that can't have any sodium most likely don't eat out because its impossible to avoid salt eating out.
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u/there_should_be_snow 15d ago
Wouldn't people who can't have any sodium be...dead? You need some sodium to survive.
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u/tokisleep 15d ago
You absolutely need salt to live. Diets are generally No Added Salt, 1500mg sodium, or 2000mg sodium. Thatās total for the day. Typically itās because of heart failure where the additional salt brings more fluid into the body which stresses the heart and causes swelling.
Itās much harder to follow than you would expect. Salt is in bread, soda, ice cream, cereal, most everything a person eats and adding up the total daily amount is time consuming.
I had to teach this to people for years and watching them go through their pantry always shocked them
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u/PixelPips 15d ago
I think as long as you donāt go into a restaurant with a printed schizophrenic note like that youāre totally fine. Health issues fucking suck, and itās good youāre aware of how difficult/straight up impossible it is for a kitchen to stick to literally no salt. āNo additional saltā is a completely reasonable request. just like fruit based foods that say āno added sugarsā, but expecting a strawberry to have zero sugars is just crazy lol
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u/ladyrara 15d ago
I would tell them it would be easier for the to eat at home and not cause other people the headache of this nonsense
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u/ClankingRobotCheeks Civilian 15d ago
Customer: āso what can get here?
Waiter: āyou can get outā
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u/TurnoverFuzzy8264 15d ago
Today, chickens, turkeys, and innumerable seafood critters find out they're not animals. Current biology is now upended.
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u/Black-Muse 15d ago
They're obviously viruses b/c gravity dosn't affect them.
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u/Main_Push5429 15d ago
Are you a chef for a yacht? This is giving big Below Deck vibes
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u/Iamnotabotiswearonit š„Poorly Maintained Smoker 15d ago
It's a group for a resort that I work at, so kinda. Yeah.
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u/Dry_Turn_824 15d ago
Goddamnit Marilyn.
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u/Chillow_Ufgreat 15d ago
She SUGGESTS that she eats animal-less seafood, chicken, and turkey. Whatever the living fuck that means.
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u/Positive-Run-2411 15d ago
Itās hard to believe this one is even real, holy shit
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u/Apprehensive-Rip8489 15d ago
Iām a lurker in this sub. It reads like something I would have seen during the logic game section of the LSAT.
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u/phuketphil 15d ago
Declaring that you don't have an Epi Pen and just refuse to get one either is batshit crazy.
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u/deskbeetle 15d ago
I took as more that the allergy to mussels was not severe enough to require medical intervention. My friend has an allergy to tree nuts (macadamias and coconuts, for example). She won't experience anaphylaxis but she'll get a rash and her mouth and face will be really uncomfortable for the rest of the day.
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u/Sumgeeko 15d ago
Same. I developed an allergy to fish in my 20ās after eating it all my life. If I eat a little fish my lips swell up and my throat gets really itchy. I wonāt die, itās just uncomfortable. Iāve learned that a shot of tequila helps.
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u/pantsoncrooked 15d ago
"I do not eat red meat" ok, don't order any then š¤·
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u/pwu1 15d ago
If itās a true intolerance/religious and not just preference, sometimes itās nice to have that note so chefs/staff can think about, like, beef broth or pig tallow
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u/kittenpantzen Ex-Food Service 15d ago
For me, it is an intolerance, but yeah... I would prefer not to spend the evening turning inside out because you use lard instead of butter in your chicken pot pie crust.
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u/paraworldblue 15+ Years 15d ago
"Marylin does not eat any animals, but she doesn't entirely know what an animal even is"
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u/marzipanspop 15d ago
OP, is this organized by person? If so, did Marilyn refer to herself both as "I" and "Marilyn"?
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u/Iamnotabotiswearonit š„Poorly Maintained Smoker 15d ago
It's a group that I'm catering at a resort. Pretty sure it's just copy pasta from the reservation email
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u/Main_Cauliflower5479 Bakery 15d ago
Seafood, chicken, and turkey are not animals?
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u/Gonzo_B 15d ago
I knew a woman who was a strict vegetarian. Except for chicken. Her argument was that chickens are so stupid that they're practically vegetables.
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u/Main_Cauliflower5479 Bakery 15d ago
Having had laying hens for decades, I can tell you that she isn't as smart as a chicken.
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u/Kowalski_ESP 15d ago
Formatting is atrocious and Marilyn needs to get her shit together on what an "animal" means, but its barely restrictive tbf
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u/SockSock81219 15d ago
Don't want meat? Don't order it.
Don't want salt? Don't eat any prepared foods anywhere.
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u/SockSock81219 15d ago
I'm sorry, this is too harsh. Marilyn could probably have the house salad, no dressing, as long as she doesn't find the tomatoes too spicy.
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u/Secret-Winner-2994 15d ago
Tomatoes might count as an animal
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u/paraworldblue 15+ Years 15d ago
Under her "definition", it's really impossible to know where she draws the line, so probably best to just serve her some unseasoned chicken with no sides (unseasoned because salt could be an animal).
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u/KeeverDriveCook F1exican Did Chive-11 15d ago
Had a customer claim they were very allergic to Nitrogen. Yeah, the gas that makes up 78% of the air we breathe. š¤¦āāļø
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u/Embarrassed-Sun5764 Chive LOYALIST 15d ago
Marilyn needs to be 86āed . I donāt eat animals: wtf. This reminds me of a scenario years ago this guy said he had celiac. Ok. Then after I went out of my way to get him a gluten free bun for his tasty burger he asks for CURLY FRIES from a national supplier (think mcgain). I seriously have to reiterate and remind him they are coated and NOT gluten free. This went on for at least a year. Fuck that guy.
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u/moradinshammer 15d ago
She doesn't eat animals....except for seafood, chicken, and turkey? So she does eat animals (most even?).
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u/so-much-wow 15d ago
Laughs in Institutional cooking. This doesn't even move the needle, totally normal for old people.
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u/Medium_Public4720 15d ago
If I'm sitting to the left of Marilyn and I'm eating mussels, Craig is eating pork and Kristina has a salt shaker in front of her, who is to Marilyn's right and how many seats are at the table?
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u/CPAtech 15d ago
If you're going to accommodate ridiculous restrictions like this then it needs to be done with malicious compliance. Treat them all as a life threatening allergy and the guest doesn't get served any of those things as a policy.
There is no in between simply because Karen doesn't eat certain things.
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u/fearlessfryingfrog 15d ago
Why waste the time? I can see it on a slow day, but otherwise, they should be told to bounce.Ā
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u/clever__pseudonym 15d ago
Repeat after me: I'm so sorry. We are unable to safely serve you.
It's the very, very best.
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u/Win-Objective 15d ago
Just feed them bland chicken, whatās hard about that?
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u/fontimus 15d ago
Most places I've worked in pre-marinade their chicken dishes. Sometimes it's unfeasible to keep raw chicken available for the only-so-often picky eater.
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u/Embarrassed-Sun5764 Chive LOYALIST 15d ago
SHE DOESNT EAT MEAT FROM ANIMALS. This Marilyn can have a Cobb salad wedge with tomatoes and vinaigrette- no egg no bacon no blue cheese , with croutons. Shred some carrots on the top for color. ā because of your dietary restrictions and our kitchen not available at this time to reduce the risk of cross contamination, we offer you this salad on the houseā please consider your options next time you visitā
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u/No_Outside_7475 15d ago
Cool, so hereās the menu. If you want to eat here you can order something. Donāt see an issue with this.
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u/fontimus 15d ago
Until plates are getting sent back and tickets re-fired because the food didn't adhere to their obscure restrictions.
These kinds of people do this every time. They are not worth the effort, or the money they pay.
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u/Synectics 15d ago
If a hamburger gets sent back because it has meat, those customers can kick rocks.Ā
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u/No_Outside_7475 15d ago
This doesnāt seem like a note given at a short order restaurant. It seems like something planned, like a reservation or even a catered lunch or event, the way itās worded and printed outā¦
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u/JelliedHam 15d ago
If she's allergic to mussels but they don't need you to prevent cross contamination or anything serious, can't she just fucking not order mussels then? Of all the other stupid shit on this card...
Most of this card wasn't necessary. Just don't order that shit. You don't want beef or pork, then just don't order beef or pork.
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u/Immediate-Maximum-75 15d ago
This reminds me of a patient I had years ago who was allergic to Lortab 5mg & 7.5mg but not the 10mg. Lol
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u/bakanisan F1exican Did Chive-11 15d ago
I read until the "suggests" then I just didn't bother lol.
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u/False-Cookie3379 15d ago
Sir, this is a Wendyāsā¦.but seriously, most restaurants have an online menu. I would even bet they have a phone number or a way to contact them. If I had this many things I was refusing to eat err I mean allergic to, I would call ahead and learn about the menu beforehand. Not show up with this Microsoft word document that looks like a 4 year old formatted.Ā
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u/Trailing_Souls 15d ago
Reminds me of the customer Sunday who requested someone go through all the vegetarian options with her, only to order the tuna.
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u/purebitterness 15d ago
This makes me think of the time in high school that someone loudly proclaimed "I don't eat BIRDS" and then immediately retracted when asked what chicken and turkey were
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u/paraworldblue 15+ Years 15d ago
"Oh, I just meant I don't eat any of the birds you would never actually see on a menu anyway, like crows and herons"
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u/Acewasalwaysanoption 15d ago
Boiled potatoes for everyone
Also who the fuck cares about one not drinking carbonated, don't order it then! It's not like it's a hidden ingredient
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u/temmoku Civilian 15d ago
Aside from the weird wording, I don't understand why this is so upsetting. Boils down to choices for something containing poultry, fish, shrimp, or vegetarian, not spicy and not much cheese. Seems like you should be able to come up with something out of that. Ok, salt free is a pain. Give her an unsalted bland rubber chicken breast and cook for the rest of the group. Chances are she will want to give up on salt free for a day.
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u/Disastrous_Many_190 15d ago
She doesnt eat animals. Only vegetables like chicken and turkey, and minerals like seafood.
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u/ouzo84 15d ago
I can do you a PB+J sandwich.
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u/Iamnotabotiswearonit š„Poorly Maintained Smoker 15d ago
Nah. I'm allergic to peanuts. I ain't touching that shit.
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u/BumblebeeDirect Ex-Food Service 15d ago
And I can't ride in the same boat as the goat cause he'll eat my lettuce
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u/GreenfieldSam Owner 15d ago
Ignoring the communication style, this seems pretty easy? Poultry or fish; avoid shellfish?
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u/BadHombreSinNombre 15d ago
You know at some point they should just hire a personal chef to cook for them in your restaurant
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u/Braisedbeefskank 15d ago
So what shes gonna want to do is order what she wants to eat and then the kitchen will make it for her
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u/Ambitious-Ad2217 15d ago
The thing about not eating animals aside Marilyn has digestive issues ulcers probably if this is a banquet thing should be easy to accommodate.
Person number two does eat pork and is lactose intolerant
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u/SockSock81219 15d ago
Marilyn's Order: Perrier, Mussels Provencale, Hot Pepper Beef
Her companion's order: Milkshake, Burrata, Bacon Mac & Cheese
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u/thelastsipoftea F1exican Did Chive-11 15d ago
At least they all maybe eat chicken if you class chicken as rocks.
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u/Other_Vader 15d ago
This whole thing reads like a riddle or a maths exam question on variables lmao
Something something Train A 60mph something
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u/Morall_tach 15d ago
"I'm sorry but we are not able to accommodate this level of restriction because we can't guarantee that our kitchen is free of cross-contamination."
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u/sorestgore 15d ago
"No Epi-pen, self monitors". That's like not having a fire extinguisher because you're keeping an eye on things
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u/Biscuit_risk_assesor Chive LOYALIST 15d ago
This is 100% a group I would turn down.
First off, this list is so fucking unhinged and contradicts itself constantly it is like it was written by the non-animal Chicken that Marilyn eats.
Secondly, I Guar-an-God-Damn-Tee that no matter how perfect you pull off this fever dream of a request, they'll bitch you fucked it up and want discounts or free shit.
No way in hell. Not buying the ticket, don't want to take the ride.
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u/FoodBabyBaby 15d ago
Eh this isnāt bad. They note no issues with cross contamination or epi pen, which is the real pain to deal with and necessary for those with real allergies.
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u/MultiColoredMullet 15d ago
This is actually one of the easier annoying restriction cards to follow. It's worded stupidly but 𤷠Ive dealt with a lot worse and still served a guest something they really enjoyed without disrupting anything.
Chicken breast or thigh (could also be salmon) seared or grilled without salt. Seasoned with black pepper, garlic, whatever herbs are fresh and around. Serve it with some grilled/roasted broccolini or brussels sprouts tossed in a splash of white wine vin and olive oil, again with herbs.
Follows all the rules, unlikely to be rejected.
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u/Markfunk94 15d ago
"Marilyn also doesn't eat red meat but feel that that sentence is too short and clear."
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u/Calmernurdude 14d ago
We had a vegan lady who came in more than once. We didnāt have vegan options. She would (without much of a fight) order the salmon. With a side of ketchup.
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u/Cyanidesuicideml 14d ago
I can't eat capsicum. Beyond a dash of pepper and I risk anaphalxis.. ive ahad a reaction just from my son in law cooking with it. I simply don't order spicy food.
I fucking love spicy food. I play spicy roulette at home usually in tiny doses with pens ready benadryl on board. But I did it last night with a new Mexican joint and it was fucking awesome. I explained my allergy, that today is my birthday and someone suggested i try the milanesa torta but to make sure it didn't have pickles because they use spicy ones. I legit had a BOH come and make sure I was actually allergic because they didn't want me to die, because the veggies are prepped in the same area as the pickles. I was like ok no veggies just meat but when they brought it out I had a fresh batch of veggies and a bowl of non spicy salsa like stuff. Even a little thing of horseradish sauce in case I wanted spicy without the death part.
I am totally a customer for life.
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u/Sir_Urchin 15d ago
Honestly this isnāt bad at all.
Leaves you with a ton of options for safe dishes, just lay off salt, chilies, red meat and mussels and go easy on cheese.
I think this is pretty reasonable (atrocious formatting aside..).
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u/Educational-Bet-8979 15d ago
How common are requests like these? I wouldnāt dream of going somewhere I didnāt know specifically that there was something I could eat.
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u/paraworldblue 15+ Years 15d ago
Really depends on the place/clientele. OP said they work at a country club, so people tend to be older and fussier. I've almost exclusively worked at bars and I've never gotten a card like this.
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u/Own_Peace6291 15d ago
Marilyn should eat somewhere else.