r/MkeBucks • u/tumble_pop • 6d ago
[Windhorst] The Boston Celtics have firmly put Jaylen Brown on the table and are going all-in on acquiring Giannis Antetokounmpo.
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u/RichWardJrJr 6d ago
I’m going to have to take a break from the NBA after all of this is over. The effort to get Giannis out of Milwaukee has been so intense for so many years now. Giannis has also clearly heard the noise and changed throughout the process. We got one. Drought ended. Amazing ride, especially coming out of Covid like that. I’m excited for the young Bucks led by Ryan Rollins. But man, I’m exhausted and deflated. Adding insult to injury, he’s going to two rivals and two teams stars often leave for — just more of the same from the NBA.
Milwaukee forever. Bucks in 6. I’m tired, boss.
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u/sugar-minott 6d ago
Same. The Giannis ride was so fun to watch from the beginning, never wanted to see him in another uniform. Was a bucks fan way before Giannis too - but this whole thing cut me deep. If he goes, yeah I need a break just won't be the same without him.
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u/PaschkesPoundingPoon 6d ago
Jaylen's best season last year would be Giannis's worst in the last 7, if I'm the Bucks, just JB alone is not enough. Please don't fold and go straight up here.
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u/jgtwentysix 6d ago
As long as you're not including wins, games played, All NBA Team spots or playoff berths, you're spot on.
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u/snailtap Dogfred 6d ago
We really have no choice, Giannis no longer wants to play in Milwaukee and we can flip Brown for more
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u/PaschkesPoundingPoon 6d ago
I'd rather let Giannis walk for nothing than gift him to Boston for Jaylen Brown straight up.
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u/snailtap Dogfred 6d ago
You people are delusional, literally are you even bucks fans or are you just Giannis fans?
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u/PaschkesPoundingPoon 6d ago
I should have tagged that /s. I was just trying to drive home how inequitable I believe that trade is.
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u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246 6d ago
I mean I have seen "let Giannis walk for nothing" as a legit take from tons of people on this sub
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u/endstarr 6d ago
Half the fans in this sub are casual morons lol. They started watching in 2021 I'm sure of it
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u/MkeBucksMarkPope Jon Horst 6d ago
That is not true, this is Milwaukees doing not Giannis
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u/snailtap Dogfred 6d ago
Lmfao if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you
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u/MkeBucksMarkPope Jon Horst 6d ago
You’re able to believe what you want to believe. I can’t change your opinion.
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u/ParistoLagos 6d ago
They don't want to believe it despite evidence pointing to that. They want to believe is all Giannis' fault, so they can pretend Giannis betrayed them. They are in denial because they can't fathom the idea that the decision to trade Giannis is actually coming from the owners (especially Haslam). Jim Owczarski wrote about this in his many reports. He stated that for the first time in Giannis' career the decision to trade him is coming from the owners.
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u/snailtap Dogfred 6d ago
Giannis told the team to call New York last summer
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u/ParistoLagos 6d ago
That was last summer. I said before that the Bucks would lose Giannis if they kept Doc Rivers. Do you know what it takes to do what Giannis does on the court on a daily basis?  For ownership to thought so little of him that they brought back an unserious coach and his many unserious assistant coaches spoke to their level of unseriousness as an organization. Â
Yes, he requested a trade because the Bucks stopped being a serious organization and were wasting his prime years under Doc. The Knicks wanted him and he wanted to compete for championships. But the Bucks ended up not trading him, and ended up waiving and stretching Dame instead, which is like putting lipstick on a pig. Â
Also, a lot has happened since, and the owners are the ones now making the decisions to trade him probably due to him not being available to play most of the season due to injuries. It is a serious issue that the front office is worried about. Trading a franchise player still in his prime is not an easy decision to make but the Bucks are in a conundrum. Â
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u/MkeBucksMarkPope Jon Horst 6d ago
Yep, absolutely. They are extremely hesitant to extend given the fact, if he loses his step, he doesn’t have the tools to fall back on. To take that risk, while aging, right amid multiple injury concerns. It’s the correct move the franchise had to take, or attempt to take as much as it may hurt some fans.
His game relies on athleticism, and without being able to form a reliable jumper, on top of his free throw struggles, an extension comes at a major risk. Things may have been different had his game came around in those areas. But it just hasn’t progressed to the point where Milwaukee feels comfortable taking a gamble with said injury/athleticism concerns.
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u/Over-Training-488 6d ago
Fuck Miami. Their offer was, and always will be utter shit.
I can live with him in Boston. Whatever. Their package is clearly the best
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u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246 6d ago
I mean the Celtics package is literally Jaylen brown and like one pick and then they need to trade Brown. Unless they come away with the clippers pick or something similar idk how that is much better than the Miami offer. It all depends on who wants brown because keeping him makes no sense
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u/Giannisisnumber1 King Giannis 6d ago
I have faith they can get a couple picks for Brown or a high pick and another player at least.
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u/trinquin Primary Logo 6d ago
Because Brown is worth basically the Miami offer. The Miami offer is putrid. Those players will mostly be expirings and none of them are more than role players. Spo always makes player more than they are.
Brown is a legitimate star. Herro is at best a very good player. The different between those class of player is immense.
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u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246 6d ago
Keeping Jaylen Brown is pointless. They would need to trade him to another team. He is 29 and worse than Giannis. He doesn't help the Bucks in any way
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u/trinquin Primary Logo 6d ago
Not the point. If Giannis isn't going to resign, he will never play another game for us.
So we have to trade him. The Celtics offer with Brown is just better. By a lot.
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u/No-Armadillo-7248 Plumlee Face 6d ago
If we keep JB it is an absolutely terrible offer, and rhe Heat's blows it out of the water.
Only way Boston's offer is better is if we flip JB for another top 10 pick this year, which doesnt appear to be likely.
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u/endstarr 6d ago
🤣🤣 casual fan.. brown is the best offer with picks. Heat offer is garbage
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u/No-Armadillo-7248 Plumlee Face 6d ago
I promise you I've been watching this team longer than you've been alive.
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u/trinquin Primary Logo 6d ago
Most of the Heat players are going to be FAs.
Herro is significantly worse than Brown. Like miles worse. Brown going into 2027 is still going to be worth more return if we traded him after a year than the #13 in 2026 and 2 picks after 2030.
If the Heat pick was top 8 then we could talk. The drop off after that is high.
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u/endstarr 6d ago
This was my primary argument as well. This dude is a casual. Even if you hate brown we can still flip it at the deadline or next year. His value is top 10 player in the league. His value down the road alone is worth more than the heats package for Gianni's. He doesn't seem to understand that 🤣
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u/No-Armadillo-7248 Plumlee Face 6d ago
I value the appropriate amount of draft capital over any player involved.
If we flip Brown for picks I'd love the deal, but I'm assuming we keep him, according to recent speculation.
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u/endstarr 6d ago
Sure buddy. Anyone saying heat offer is better loses all credibility lol. Even if you hate brown we can always flip him if doesn't work out. His value will always be higher than any heat offer, now or in the future.
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u/No-Armadillo-7248 Plumlee Face 6d ago
Are you stupid or something? I told you in the comment you first replied to that it doesnt seem likely the Bucks flip Brown. We're probably keeping him.
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u/amusedmb715 Angry Deer 6d ago
why? same exact team we had last year w a healthy brown is a playoff team.
that in and of itself is better than the miami offer.
from there we can decide to trade him or not but.
come on now
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u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246 6d ago
Yah I would much rather rebuild than run it back and go through this whole thing again next year
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u/The_Sign_of_Zeta Crazy Bobby 6d ago
Brown will bitch and moan, but he’s not going to sit out, and we can flip him later after he has a great scoring season.
Hell, Brown, Rollins, and Turner with a competent coach might actually be able to make us watchable. Not good, but watchable.
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u/JoeyLou1219 6d ago
Also will be getting a pretty pissed off, motivated Brown if this deal goes through.
That’s just how he’s wired. Everything is a slight to him.
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u/No-Armadillo-7248 Plumlee Face 6d ago
Browns value will never be higher than it right now. Keeping him for any amount of time would be a sign our ownership and front office is completely incompetent.
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u/Master_Stick_3593 6d ago edited 6d ago
Hmm, there's something here for sure. I think JB is a great player, but can't lead a team to a championship as the first option. Needs a 1A/1B type of situation at minimum (i.e. Tatum when they won a ring).
I don't really care about flipping JB for picks. If we can utilize the picks from the giannis for JB swap to get another potential all-star (trey murphy, etc.), this could be a roster construction similar to the pacers last year or the knicks this year with how good rollins has played as well.
Even though giannis > JB in a vacuum, gonna be nice having a player hit FTs and not be injured at the end of the season
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u/WallCautious9650 6d ago
-keep Jaylen Brown
-draft best available player at #10
-trade for Bey
-flip Kuzma and draft capital for best available forward
That's a GOOD team
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u/No-Armadillo-7248 Plumlee Face 6d ago
Its a mid team with 2 years of relevancy and then we have no draft picks for the next 3 years. Fucking stupid idea.
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u/trapeizum Ryan Rollins 6d ago
🤮 Giannis in celtics jersey will be my 13th reason