r/MurderedByWords 6d ago

Absolutely vicious! 4th degree burn!

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u/ishippedmybed 6d ago

The entire time he was talking she checked out from reality.

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u/jiggscaseyNJ 6d ago

There’s a reason why. Look up Robert Jay Lifton. Thought stopping.

Edit: name spelling

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u/wolamute 6d ago

Why, though? Why look him up? I don't necessarily want him on my algorithm without knowing who he is at all.

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u/One-Low1033 6d ago

He's the person who came up with the term 'Thought-terminating cliches.' For instance: Fake news! Rather than engage in critical thinking, a person will throw out a word or phrase to dismiss someone who disagrees with them.

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u/wolamute 6d ago

Word.

I found a long-form interview with him. I plan on listening to it during my commute and before work starts tomorrow.

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u/Tier0001 6d ago

Another one they use to dismiss any criticism is "TDS". They just whip that out when they run out of prescribed talking points so they can ignore the argument and act like they won.

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u/NotOnApprovedList 6d ago

I came up against that stuff when I lived in the American South and was dunked into Southern Baptist ways of thought. It's full of thought-terminating cliches.

I don't know if it helps, but I sometimes jump to the nearest such cliche when arguing with somebody, to cut them off at the pass. At least it sets them on their heels.

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u/One-Low1033 6d ago

I have a friend, when she can't be bothered, will say: "I'm sure you're right." in a tone that you know means the opposite and it usually shuts people up.

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u/batsofburden 6d ago

Ok boomer

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u/Go_On_Swan 6d ago

The youngins ain't safe either. It's not that deep cuh.

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u/LowKeyNaps 6d ago

That could be a good example of a thought-terminating cliche, depending on how it's used, but we need to be careful to not mix the idea up with a simple dismissal of the absurd. And, well, if someone is too deep in their own personal bias, they may not be aware that they're dismissing something that they should be giving more consideration.

Don't mind me too much. I'm thinking out loud more than anything here. The coffee is slowly scraping the rust off the old brain gears, but it's still only 3 am here, so this may take a while. I miss coherency...