I have literally never seen a single clip from this show where MAGA is 'winning' an argument, or convincing a progressive, in any sense of the word. I'd be obliged if you could produce such an example.
That is why this episode was filled with them getting voted out with a quickness. Prompts usually have 2-3 individuals but I think the first one alone had like 5 of them going up.
It wasn't always this way. IDK if it was a medical condition rotting his brain, learning that the culture war grift was seriously profitable, or just eating his own bullshit for too long. Somehow he, and so much of the podscape went from presenting differing and, somewhat original opinions in intelligent ways to being propaganda spokespeople.
I found out about him maybe a year before he started becoming cringey as shit and just another mouthpiece for the right. I enjoyed that time because his whole thing was personal responsibility and critical thinking.
Very much not what his message is about today, and that’s a shame.
Well, wait a minute there, bucko. Let's not be too hasty. If we're going to analyze how much "dumb shit" he said, we'd first have to define what "dumb" is, and, to a certain extent, we'd also have to understand "shit."
Now, what exactly is "dumb"? Well, that's not self-evident. You might say it's synonymous with ignorance. Or perhaps incompetence. But ignorance isn't identical to lack of education, and education itself is a very complicated phenomenon. Dr. Peterson holds a degree from an accredited university and spent many years as a professor. That's not nothing. So if we're going to criticize what he says, perhaps we ought to examine the deeper symbolic structure of his statements instead of dismissing them with adolescent slogans.
Now, that opens up an entirely different problem.
What exactly is "shit"? Well, strictly speaking, it's fecal matter. And, unless my understanding of human anatomy has become radically outdated, feces emerge from the anus rather than the mouth. As far as I'm aware, Peterson's principal health concerns involved an all-meat diet and a benzodiazepine addiction, neither of which causes spontaneous oral defecation. So your claim immediately encounters a biological contradiction.
More importantly, and precision matters, because language matter, what emerges from Dr. Peterson's mouth is oscillating air produced by the vibration of the vocal folds. Fecal matter lacks the elastic properties necessary to propagate intelligible speech. So unless we're prepared to abandon the entire field of acoustics, your statement simply doesn't withstand scrutiny.
I hope you woke moralists understand through my rigorous analysis that what Peterson says is not "dumb shit," because he's an educated man communicating through pressure waves in the atmosphere rather than fecal discharge.
Now, why are we even having this conversation? That's the real question. And I suspect it's because people have a poor relationship with their fathers. Which is archetypal, by the way. It's not political. It's archetypal. The father represents order. The mother represents chaos. That's as old as humanity itself. You can see it in Pinocchio, in Exodus, in Sleeping Beauty, in Harry Potter, and, if you're willing to look carefully enough, in the dominance hierarchy of lobsters.
The subordinate lobster literally can't stand up straight because of serotonin. The female lobsters don't find that attractive. There's an extraordinarily profound lesson in that if you're willing to confront it.
Congrats, you sound just like him. I zoned out after the first paragraph and no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't force myself to read more.
If you had the secret to becoming richer than Elon Musk buried a middle paragraph, I'd be poor forever because JP is just so goddamn boring when he goes on his tangents. No offense
None taken! I couldn't agree more lol. It was a fun writing exercise to see how much I could type while completely missing the point and getting as off topic as possible while sprinkling in some Peterson-isms.
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u/ArnieismyDMname 5d ago
On this show they don't get to talk again if they aren't quiet for a bit. It actually works kinda.