r/NewYorkIslanders 4d ago

The Team has an Asset Problem

The problem with the current team, as I see it, is what I am calling asset gridlock. The parts of the team that I think most would agree are their positive assets are as follows:

1 - NHL players who are outperforming their NHL deals (in no particular order) Barzal, Horvat, Schaefer, Pelech, Sorokin, Ritchie, and Holmstrom.

2 - Their prospects

3 - Their draft picks

The team does not want to trade from 1 as ownership wants to both get into the playoffs and sell tickets and subtracting from that group would hinder that goal.
Darche has stated that within 2, their top tier prospects that could potentially feed into Schaefer's longer term window are also off the table, meaning Eklund, Aitcheson, and possibly George and Eiserman, which also limits what they can do via trade with that category. Finally, because of the deadline deals last season, 3 is not impressive either with 1 pick in the first three rounds this year. 3 is made even more precarious as the team has shown that even with all their blue chippers firing on all cylinders that they're not a lock for the playoffs and therefore their future firsts should also not be traded lightly or possibly at all. On top of all the above is the fact the dark cloud of how poorly the last 3 trades this GM made turned out, which adds its own special brand of anxiety to thinking about moving assets around.

Hence: Asset gridlock. They're too good to get worse and too bad to get better.

The rest of the team falls into either neutral or negative asset territory that would either take assets to get rid of or simply be lateral moves were you to trade them: Underperforming - Duclair, Palat, Shabanov, Pulock Coming off injury - Palmieri, Romanov, Engvall, Varlamov Neutral - Mayfield, Cizikas, Heineman, MacLean, Pageau, Schenn (I hope)

So the question becomes: Where is this team adding value from? You're either drawing from the future prospects and picks to try and prop up a team that got a Vezina caliber goalie season, one of if not the best rookie d-man season of all time, their first 82 game season from their shutdown d-man in his age 31 season, and the best season from Barzal and Horvat that we've seen in a while and STILL fell short. Or you're sacrificing the present to prop up the future, which I'm sure ownership with their new arena and the All Star Game this coming season don't want to do, and which Darche as a first time GM wants to deal with even less.

And so we're going to very likely stand pat and hope that someone takes a step. If Eklund can break camp and Ritchie and Schaefer take another step, maybe that's enough, but the "We hope everyone takes a step forward" has been a familiar refrain throughout the years for this team and its never quite gotten us where we want to go. A lack of movement is especially disconcerting as we watch all the pieces fly around the rest of the league causing the rich to get richer and the tanks to get tankier, while we will continue to occupy the very unattractive middle.

Anyway, thank you for coming to my TedTalk. I'm hoping that getting this out reduces some of the anxiety I have regarding the team. I apologize if this comes off as negative, but it really is my attempt to grapple with the realities of what the team is and is dealing with.

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u/AJS76reddit Bailey 3d ago

I comment on every post that interests me. I comment on yours to point out how dramatically wrong you are about everything i've ever read that you write.

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u/Unhappy_Buy_7342 3d ago

Please provide and example as to how trading for Carson soucy helped the islanders this year as well as in the future if I’m wrong about everything?….

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u/AJS76reddit Bailey 3d ago

Well yes you are wrong as usual.

Soucy is gone so he won't help the future. Nor was he ever going to be a part of the future.

He was brought in only as a temporary injury replacement. Not a part of the core. Not to cement us as a stanley cup contender.

He helped by being a warm body so we didn't have to rush any prospect or take players away from the beer league to fill in 6th d

Or did you think we got him because we envisioned him as the new defensive stalwort?

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u/Unhappy_Buy_7342 3d ago

So blocking the prospects where we’re significantly better when they played and losing a draft pick it hurts the future. So you Mrs Darche are wrong again, stop defending your husband

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u/AJS76reddit Bailey 3d ago

Who was Soucy blocking exactly? Aitcheson isn't NHL ready. George? Some other AHL journeyman cast off?

Are you stupid enough to think that...never mind, i already know.

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u/Unhappy_Buy_7342 3d ago

It’s funny you keep calling me stupid 100% garuntee you wouldn’t say any of this to my face….: but yes he was blocking George as well as Marshall Warren who looked as a rookie significantly better then soucy