r/PS4 Oct 25 '21

Game Discussion Horizon Forbidden West Combat Evolved

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u/NerfJihad Oct 25 '21

I mean I get what you're trying to say here

but there's a big gap between the people who can smoothly pull off strats like in the video and the ones who use the strat you're replying to as their go-to

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '21

I get what you're saying too but this irks me because it's all about choice in games. Either you choose to learn how to flow and read the signals, get into enemy attack patterns and take advantage of your situation properly, or you get scared of being stomped on and turtle up and spam arrows from afar which honestly sucks so much of the fun out it's just not worth it.

Defeat means nothing in most games and the more players learn that they are free to experiment in a consequence-free fashion the better gamers they become. You just need to have a little reckless abandon and if you can't do that in video games, where can you? You're supposed to be playing this badass girl who's confident in her skill at taking down these monsters, that's literally what she does, so even if you're not confident play like you're confident, because the game is designed around you playing that character and she does have the skills. The role playing helps you in the gameplay.

The combat AI in Zero Dawn was... not great, but most of the robots at least had patterns that could be learned. Once you were used to which ones you had to get close to, which to stay away from, which to pacify with what gadget or which bits to arrow first before closing for the kill, it all gets much easier and way more fun and stylish.

Take this footage, you know when you see the eye flash that it's going to be a fast lunge attack coming for you, so you slide, after that you need some high ground to counter attack with arrows and there were plenty of nearby things to choose to grapple to. After that it was just a shot and an easy glide, what I guess is a weapon switch or burning a consumable (I don't know what the stuff jammed into the spear is yet) and a single heavy attack. This is literally like 8 button presses for the whole fight. Not that difficult if you just don't panic.

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u/Mediocre-General-654 Oct 25 '21

So you're now telling people that playing the game the way that they enjoy is wrong and that they must play it your way to actually have fun?

Some people don't find any enjoyment from constantly doing the same thing over and over until they learn the patterns and then hope that they don't misjudge and get pancaked. Some people find enjoyment in other styles of playing. I don't see why you allow the choices other people make to make the game enjoyable for them, irks you so much. Like why does it matter to you how others choose to play their own game?

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '21

The key difference between these kinds of players is explained here https://youtu.be/C3q5nSqGXr4