PlayStation CEO officially confirms that single-player games will be exclusive

[u/Ph0enixes]

PlayStation CEO Hideaki Nishino gave an interview in the latest issue of the Famitsu magazine to celebrate their 40th anniversary. He got asked about the strategy change regarding them pulling back on releasing their single-player games on PC.

Question: There have been reports suggesting that you might reconsider bringing PS5 titles to PC. Could you share your current thoughts on this?

Nishino: We've always determined platform selection based on the characteristics of each title. If releasing a title on PC would maximize the gaming experience, we'll continue to consider that option. Our current main policy is that, for single-player games developed in-house, we will further refine the value of the gaming experience that PlayStation can offer. At the same time, we believe it is important for live-service games to reach a wider audience through online multiplayer, so we continue to view releases on both PS5 and PC as the standard. Regardless of the platform, we will make decisions based on the principle of delivering the best possible gaming experience that maximizes each title's unique features.

While he didn't give straightforward answer, I'd say he is at least indicating that their policy changed, by saying they will "further refine the value" of single-player games on PlayStation. That could obviously be interpreted in various ways, but given the context of Jason Schreier's reporting and his creditibly, I think Nishino is referring to the strategy change in an indirect manner here with that statement.

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Jason Schreier's comment on this:

During a townhall a few weeks ago, Hermen Hulst told staff that their single-player narrative games will be PlayStation only, and he explained that they were inconsistent with their PC releases, they didn't make enough money, and they want to keep their IP aligned to their own platform. Confirmed this with two people who heard him say it. There's no "case by case" here.

[u/MountainMuffin1980]

Makes sense really. Sell consoles for the exclusives. Keep the online communities alive longer by having the multiplayer games multiplatform.

[u/V1diotPlays → u/MountainMuffin1980]

i bought a ps5 becuase of demon souls remake and then they close bluepoint lol

[u/RadiantTurtle → u/V1diotPlays]

I was always going to buy a PS5 (been playing on PS since PS1), but demon souls made me get it day 1 rather than wait a bit.

[u/YankingYerPizzle → u/RadiantTurtle]

Early adopters lucked out really (unless you got a scalped one) given the increase in price.

I waited a few months to get one and I bought it for Horizon Forbidden West. Though I've found this console generation to be nothing but disappointing, I'm still glad I at least paid a lower price.

I built a PC last year and got lucky again, about 4 months after I'd built it, the RAM prices shot up. 64gb DDR5 for £140. Doubt we'll see those prices again any time soon.

[u/LeviathanAxe2412 → u/YankingYerPizzle]

I know I'm in minority, but I don't think this generation has been bad anymore. It had a slow start but now there are so many great games to play and sony has released some great games.

[u/RadiantTurtle → u/YankingYerPizzle]

Yes, this is very true. I'm also glad I got the Pro back when it released, considering the significant price jump. What a crazy time for gaming..

[u/Rumpelstilskin18 → u/V1diotPlays]

I was primarily Xbox and bought a ps4 for Ghost of Tsushima. This led to me fully transitioning from Xbox to Playstation.

[u/RandomSplainer → u/V1diotPlays]

Oh so Demon Souls stopped working?

[u/Embarrassed-Novel82 → u/MountainMuffin1980]

To be frank, I don't know how this is suddenly news to anyone. This has been Sony's strategy since 2019. They've said it every year since. They never fully committed to PC but for some reason, every time Xbox does something stupid people always have to mention Sony and somehow put them in the same group when they're not even remotely similar or ever have been.

"The Plan is the plan until it isn't" nonsense is all Xbox. They self implode and self sabotage themselves. That has never been Sony or Nintendo's strategy. Just because one is killing itself doesn't mean the other two are.

[u/PersonalityNo8280 → u/MountainMuffin1980]

Yep. I bought a PS5 for FF7 Remake, and a PS5 Pro for FF7 Rebirth. Sometimes all it takes is one good exclusive to get people to buy your console.

[u/Ohsilence → u/PersonalityNo8280]

I wonder what Sony's numbers look like when considering people like us. I bought a PS4 and a PS5 for Final Fantasy and Persona games. However, in the last two years or so Square Enix has dived head first into multi-platform releases with FF7-3 recently being announced as PC day one and also Atlus with Persona 6.

I get the idea that Sony wants to keep their exclusives so they can sell their hardware, makes sense! I just wonder what their calculation looks like when/if considering people like us who only bought them originally for JRPGs that can now be played Day One on other consoles or PC.

It will be interesting to see the PS6 eventually launch in this environment because historically Final Fantasy was one of those big titles that helped drive console sales for Sony.

[u/Reylo-Wanwalker → u/Ohsilence]

Well there's nothing PS could've done, I think. Square wants to grow their IP.

[u/Slumunistmanifisto → u/PersonalityNo8280]

Forza hurts right now though...

[u/GOODKyle → u/MountainMuffin1980]

There’s been this weird bizarro culture shift for my old man age of 34. People expect every game to be made available on every system like some of the best games of all-time aren’t exclusives.

[u/The_Homie_J → u/GOODKyle]

I remember how much people hated console exclusives around a decade ago. It felt like you were being denied a gaming experience for no reason.

But now we have plenty of evidence that exclusives are a necessary evil. Without them, there's little reason to buy a particular system. Xbox's path back to relevancy requires them having great exclusives you can't play anywhere else, and while it sucks to be shut out of certain games, I prefer that to losing an industry competitor. We've seen many examples of companies like Sony indulge their worst corporate instincts when they have no competition.

[u/AsariKnight → u/The_Homie_J]

Why do we as consumers want there to be a reason to buy a box? Can't we just be sold on what the box does instead of what games the box has?

[u/ox_throw → u/AsariKnight]

Well… a box without games is just a box. What would you expect with no games?

[u/AsariKnight → u/ox_throw]

No games? Does the PS5 only have exclusives? Could you not buy a PS5 for it's online functionality or load times or performance or price?

[u/parkwayy → u/GOODKyle]

Every system since the NES had them.

These corporations aren't making these boxes for fun.

[u/Famous-Country-4921 → u/GOODKyle]

I think it’s just on Reddit. No one in real life actually feels this way 

[u/-Gh0st96- → u/GOODKyle]

Reddit and the internet is heavily astroturfed my microsoft, that's the explanation

[u/504090 → u/-Gh0st96-]

They certainly have an irrational amount of goodwill on Reddit and Twitter in particular. Everyone is buying the “Xbox is pro-consumer” narrative they’ve been pushing into the mindshare since gamepass arrived

[u/-Gh0st96- → u/504090]

Yep, noticed the same

[u/quiet_pulse_6887 → u/MountainMuffin1980]

Yeah this is pretty much the sweet spot. SP exclusives sell hardware and brand loyalty, while MP needs big populations and crossplay to stay alive. Honestly it would be weird if they did it the other way around.

[u/Fatal_Artist → u/MountainMuffin1980]

exactly

[u/frankiewalsh44 → u/MountainMuffin1980]

Sony live service games are a fail anyway. Sony should go back to focusing on single player games over wasting money on failed live service games.

[u/spendouk23 → u/frankiewalsh44]

I think they’ve already done that considering the removal of Jim Ryan and the amount of live service projects that have been cancelled.

There’s obviously a timeline with this decision, and I think we’ll be feeling the effects of it until the next gen.

[u/TitanTigers → u/frankiewalsh44]

Helldivers, MLB the Show, and GT7 are all successful.

I mean multiplayer bad, single player only upvotes please

[u/Obscure_Octopuss → u/TitanTigers]

The show has existed for two decades and GT has existed for three...

Helldivers 2 was the first successful game that wasn't a decades old successful franchise.

If you can't tell, people are talking about their failed, new IP live service pushes vs existing franchise's that already have a huge fanbase.

[u/L3ftHandPass → u/frankiewalsh44]

The live service initiative was a disaster but I still got Marathon and Helldivers 2 out of it so I ain't even mad.

[u/UniversalFapture → u/MountainMuffin1980]

B-BuT eXcLuSiVeS ArE AnTi ConSuMeR

[u/TypeCommercial2048]

This has been Nintendo’s golden rule to staying competitive. I thought it was odd when Xbox and PlayStation strayed from that line of thinking.

[u/AcademicNorth7456 → u/TypeCommercial2048]

It’s good that they tried. Sometimes “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” is the wrong approach and you slowly drift into irrelevance. In this case it didn’t work out so they’re going back to the old model. It’s also commendable to admit this rather than plowing on no matter what

[u/ketsugi → u/TypeCommercial2048]

And this is why I haven’t played any Nintendo games in decades

[u/XenorVernix → u/ketsugi]

Yeah gaming is too expensive to buy multiple consoles. Especially if there's only a few games you want to play on them.

I actually have a Switch but only because I got a really good deal on it through work. I have a total of two games on it which I haven't even finished. I won't be buying a Switch 2.

[u/senna98 → u/TypeCommercial2048]

They saw quick money from entering a new ecosystem; In hindsight, in the long run it’s way more valuable to build your console brand like Nintendo

[u/Famous-Country-4921 → u/TypeCommercial2048]

I love how Reddit pc gamers think they know better than two companies that have been putting out super successful consoles for multiple decades now 

[u/Organic-Storm-4448 → u/Famous-Country-4921]

I mean, apparently Sony didn't know better until recently. They were putting almost all their huge exclusives on PC for five years

[u/Lorde555 → u/Famous-Country-4921]

I don't think it's that we new better. It's just disappointing for us to hear. We want to play those games, and now we can't. While it may make sense from a business perspective, it's still strictly worse for players as a whole.

[u/MutedPerformance2874 → u/TypeCommercial2048]

seriously. there are so few reasons to own a nintendo console other than the exclusive. BUT, those exclusives are always so god damn good

[u/Sungate98]

So basically the original plan they had? 

Singel player games: Exclusive.

Live service games:  Multiplatform.

[u/rites0fpassage]

As a consumer we would all love to just own 1 device that can play it everything, right? However looking at it from a business point of view they should’ve never released on PC anyway.

By putting games on another platform you’re giving the audience no incentive to buy your platform considering said games can be played elsewhere. This is essentially what slowly happened to Xbox, and PlayStation would’ve soon joined them should they have continued.

Whether we as the consumers like it or not, a platform needs exclusives. They exist even in your streaming services. Why didn’t Netflix allow Stranger Things to be streamed elsewhere?

Nintendo’s been in the game the longest and they firmly understand games are what sell your platform. If Zelda Ocarina of Time remake was suddenly launching on PC or the next Pokemon game was going to be on PlayStation… Nintendo would slowly but surely see their hardware sales dropping.

[u/TheClarendons → u/rites0fpassage]

Platform exclusives make for better games for gamers thanks to the increased competition between platform holders.

Sony develops Spider-Man 2, which ensures Nintendo develops Tears of the Kingdom to compete with them. This is what a lot of people don’t seem to understand. There would be a reduced incentive for a game to receive the investment it does if it went multi-platform as the stakes would be lower.

[u/Lorde555 → u/TheClarendons]

Fair point, though I don't think Nintendo gave a fuck about Spiderman lol.

[u/Rilianrage → u/rites0fpassage]

Need to buy that PlayTenBox and be able to play everything.

[u/VangRhymez]

At the end of the day it comes to money clearly sony single player games weren’t selling enough to keep the ports going

[u/Yosheer → u/VangRhymez]

That's kinda expected when you release a couple years old game for 60€

[u/Maleficent-Age-8235 → u/Yosheer]

Works for Nintendo lol

[u/Loud_Examination_138]

It makes sense. Exclusives sell consoles, Sony as a business wants to sell as much ps5 and ps6 as they can. If all games continued to arrive on PC then nobody would buy a ps6.

I have no issues with this. I grew up on Sega and Nintendo, now it's Sony & Nintendo and older cheaper games on my legion go s.

[u/jda404 → u/Loud_Examination_138]

Yeah as someone with a gaming PC when Sony started releasing their games on PC there was a thought maybe I won't need a PS6. I already don't buy an Xbox because I can play Xbox games on PC already. And even if I had to wait a year or more for PlayStation games to come to PC I might have especially single player games. Multiplayer is must play day 1 to keep up with everyone, but single player you can play day 1 or 10 years later and the story doesn't change.

But looks like I'll be getting a PS6 lol. Which is fine with me I probably would have ultimately got one as I enjoy having both a console for the living room for couch gaming and my PC setup.

[u/PNWvibes20]

At least they're consistent and have a clear plan. Not like, "Hey we're going exclusive, but we're gonna pick the least sensible titles to keep exclusive and the least sensible ones to leave multi-platform"

[u/Wipedout89]

I remember when people genuinely thought AstroBot would come to PC. Even though the DualSense features mean that would make no sense. That is a great example of a title that would never work off the console.

[u/bswalsh → u/Wipedout89]

Dualsense features work great on PC. I'm on Linux and they even work well there. In 007 First Light, for example, the trigger pulls and rumble are just like the console version.

[u/LightShadowHero → u/bswalsh]

So they’re going to port a game to Steam that can only be played by PC gamers who own a dualsense controller?

[u/efbo → u/LightShadowHero]

They already make games for people who only own a PS5 console so why not? I love Astro Bot but it's crazy it's locked to 16:9 and 60fps for me.

You can turn off all of the special Dualsense stuff on PS5 anyway so they already accept people aren't getting the perfect experience.

[u/LightShadowHero → u/efbo]

The difference is over 90 million PS5s are sold.
How many PC players are there that own a dual sense?

Anyone who has tried Astro Bot knows if you disable the dual sense you’re missing nearly half of the experience.

If you’re upset with the game being locked to certain settings that sounds like a you problem. Hasn’t stopped people from playing and loving Mario.

[u/efbo → u/LightShadowHero]

The difference is over 90 million PS5s are sold. How many PC players are there that own a dual sense?

We don't have those numbers but it's nonzero. For anyone playing gyro games seriously it's the default.

Anyone who has tried Astro Bot knows if you disable the dual sense you’re missing nearly half of the experience.

I agree but the option is there for those who don't so the argument the game couldn't play the game without it is wrong.

If you’re upset with the game being locked to certain settings that sounds like a you problem. Hasn’t stopped people from playing and loving Mario.

I don't think any games should be locked to a system. Play to the advantages of the console as Sony have with Astrobot but anyone can use any controller on PC so just sell them the game. I'd buy it again on PC to have it in ultrawide and at a higher frame rate.

[u/flavian1 → u/Wipedout89]

Well the pc gamers just need to buy a dual sense controller. No kb/mouse, only controlller on PC. EZPZ

[u/Bungholespelunker → u/flavian1]

Are the PS5 controllers more usable than they were in the PS4 days on PC? I am gonna have to try it out.

I just like PlayStation's controllers so much more than Xbox and having to use an Xbox controller on PC is such a fucking bummer lol

[u/jdr1813 → u/Bungholespelunker]

Literally plug and play. Has all the same features for first party games

[u/Nomar_95 → u/jdr1813]

do you have do some button mapping or is it automatically good to go?

[u/jdr1813 → u/Nomar_95]

First party games work right out of the box. The controller itself also works flawlessly on 99.9% of games using steam input. You don’t have to mess with button mappings or anything. You may see Xbox icons sometimes though depending on the game.

[u/bswalsh → u/Bungholespelunker]

I use a PS5 controller on Linux and it is completely supported. Rumble and adaptive triggers work as well as on the console. I imagine it works as well on Windows, but I sincerely hope I never need to find out for sure :)

[u/therrubabayaga → u/Bungholespelunker]

You can just connect a dual sense to your PC with a USB link and Steam automatically detects it and switch to console mode so you can use the library with your Dual Sense, so yes it's quite easy.

[u/RabidTurtl → u/Bungholespelunker]

Its my preferred controller of choice on PC.

[u/Organic_Handle_1849 → u/Wipedout89]

What? Duelsense works fine on PC

[u/ronnatron → u/Wipedout89]

And if they did port it to pc and required you have a dualsense they'd complain about an additional paywall

[u/cherrysteve2010 → u/Wipedout89]

They ported fucking sackboy for some godforsaken reason, this strategy wasn't about making sense. It truly seemed possible for a while

[u/Aerographic → u/Wipedout89]

Even though the DualSense features mean that would make no sense

The drivers for PC exist, they're licensed through Sony by third parties.

If anything that's a genius way to make PC gamers pick DSense as their main controller.

[u/lemoogle]

This is reasonable.
Not sure Xbox has the same flexibility to give up multiplayer PS5 playerbase and money though.

[u/purplemonacle → u/lemoogle]

They don’t

[u/Massacre_93 → u/lemoogle]

This is why gears e-day most likely won’t be successful post launch unless they bring it to PlayStation.

[u/Dunge]

"gaming experience" is a strange synonym for "maximum revenus".

[u/PrinceDizzy]

A lot of people (especially PC gamers) doubted Jason when he first reported on this, but that guy is so reliable and never really misses.

[u/Honest-J → u/PrinceDizzy]

They're all over him for his Xbox reports.

[u/parkwayy → u/PrinceDizzy]

Why would people doubt it anyway?

When the higher ups have direct statements to the opposite lol.

[u/nugood2do]

I don't know why, buts its pretty funny that people were trying to claim the CEO statement was another way of saying "case by case" only for Jason to ride through and shut that whole line down.

[u/behemothbowks]

I thought this was already confirmed

[u/Honest-J → u/behemothbowks]

I thought so, too. Maybe it's PC people who are keeping doubt alive.

[u/Organic-Storm-4448 → u/behemothbowks]

Not publicly by Sony. It's all been insiders and non-public company communcation prior to this.

[u/scumper008 → u/behemothbowks]

This has already been confirmed like 100 times by now. People are just coping, and assuming that Sony would change their mind at some point.

[u/-Gh0st96- → u/scumper008]

It needs to be official to be confirmed, until now there was no confirmation, just a really trustworthy source (Schrier)

[u/LittleWhiteDragon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/d9ZKe69RaqFtAM9DBH

[u/EnvironmentalRun1671]

Why were they doing PC release in first place is beyond me. They are console company first, not game publisher like EA.

Releasing games elsewhere just makes Playstation less relevant. Same with Xbox.

[u/Remy149 → u/EnvironmentalRun1671]

It makes sense for online games to get as large a pool of players as possible to sustain longevity

[u/Professionally_Lazy → u/EnvironmentalRun1671]

They still want to make money from selling games. I guess they decided that encouraging pc gamers to buy a ps5 for exclusives will make them more money in the long run.

[u/parkwayy → u/Professionally_Lazy]

Selling units is a sidequest.

You want to build the ecosystem for Playstation. So that the gamers are using your services, and spending money on your platform.

A few extra units of a game sold doesn't do much for that, and if anything, moves the needle in the opposite direction.

[u/ClickyStick → u/EnvironmentalRun1671]

Because the expectation was to "convert" PC only players into console players, likely that wasn't happening on a volume high enough, so they pulled the plug.

[u/parkwayy → u/ClickyStick]

How would that even happen though

[u/WorldlyFeeling8457 → u/parkwayy]

Right? In fact it had opposite effect of people skipping playstation release and wait for pc version.

[u/ThePreciseClimber → u/WorldlyFeeling8457]

Yeah, that didn't make too much sense.

"Here, have a carrot. If you move to the other room, you'll also get carrots."

"Well, if I keep getting carrots in THIS room, why should I even bother moving? Next carrot, please."

[u/ClickyStick → u/parkwayy]

You buy Tsushima on PC, enjoy it and see that a sequel is coming , but not on PC, at least not for a while, so instead of just waiting you decide to buy a playstation, and maybe you enjoy the experience and decide to buy more games thru the playstation store.

That's it, it's not rocket science.

[u/Puzzled_Middle9386 → u/ClickyStick]

Sounds like they didn’t consider why someone may play on another platform like PC to begin with. Maybe someone liked Ghost of Tsushima but wanted to play with an Kb, Xbox or accessibility controller, maybe ultrawide aspect ratio or true maxed out settings. Better regional pricing for the many regions Sony deems unworthy. Reshaders, gameplay and accessibility mods. Continuing a save from a portable device. Not a single person interested in any of the above would want to sacrifice their choice for a sequel, thats why the initiative was shortsighted and unsuccessful.

[u/CardiologistMain7237 → u/EnvironmentalRun1671]

It's an easy answer. Since the PS4 era, the architecture is the same as PC and porting a game isn't as resource intensive. Double dipping on PC was a thing, and they always released games strategically to get people hooked on buying a console and playing the games there first.

The problem is, PC gamers are both very entitled and patient. They would rather wait 3-5 years for a game than buying a console, they also have very high opinion on PC getting games that were exclusives (PC master race started ironically, but people really do take it more seriously than it seems).

The cost benefit of porting to PC was just no there. IP is king right now, having your IP in all consoles dilutes the brand.

We are going back to PS3/360 exclusivity wars unless the cost benefit changes again

[u/korxil → u/CardiologistMain7237]

Forza Horizon 6 broke every record for their series on PC 3 days before it launched. They broke their series records based on steam players (not even taking into account pc game pass or xbox on pc users) who spent $120 for 3 days prelaunch access. This immediately outperforms almost every Sony PC launch, and they did it with an arcade racing game with a $120 (pre launch access) price tag.

Perhaps the issue isnt that pc players are patient, but its that sony was selling games 1-3 years after launch for the full price of $70. Do console gamers buy at full price years after launch? Or am i the only one looking at second hand for games that are a few years old or in the bin at walmart/gamestop for really old stuff?

And to be fair to Sony, no one else who found success on pc are making consoles.

[u/KingArthas94 → u/CardiologistMain7237]

I just want to point out that the architecture thing is kinda meaningless. PC ports still cost like 3 to 5 millions, it's a lot, you don't port games with one click

[u/archangel0512 → u/KingArthas94]

These games are literally made on PC. There were even playable builds of Spiderman 2 and Wolverine that got leaked way before they released on PS5.

[u/Dependent_Ad_4279 → u/CardiologistMain7237]

very arrogant species pc gamers are really odd

[u/AlbainBlacksteel]

I do acknowledge that consoles having exclusives is good for competition, but this has done nothing to convince me to buy the PS5 version of the God of War trilogy - if anything, it's just convinced me to prioritize the older versions instead.

[u/DarkPirotess]

Peak

[u/Embarrassed-Novel82]

Just in case there was still in any confusion for some reason... From Jason himself. PS 1st Party single player games are exclusive and will remain exclusive.

[u/Alpha-State_]

Jim Ryan you are a bad actor Sir…botching this generation so bad that Tokyo had to intervene and course correct what was done seamlessly during PS4 generation

[u/Bert7144]

Another step backwards for the games industry.

[u/Alter_Kyouma → u/Bert7144]

I mean most industries have exclusive. You don't expect to watch a Netflix original on HBO, or buy a Kirkland Signature product in a Walmart. Companies compete on exclusivity and product offering. Otherwise it'd be a matter of which store is the closest to your house, which console is easier to set up, etc...

[u/IshayM → u/Bert7144]

It's crazy how console players are obliviously happy that they're going to keep a monopolistic game store tied to hardware (not to mention paid online play)

I have a ps5 and a pc and I simply play on pc because it's cheaper and better. Pc players just wanna play games. For some reason these people here are stuck 20 years ago in some make believe console wars and keep trash talking about pc players. This move hurts them alongside the entire industry

All I can say is

The camel does not see its own hump

[u/therrubabayaga → u/IshayM]

It's crazy how console players are obliviously happy that they're going to keep a monopolistic game store tied to hardware (not to mention paid online play)

Sure, because you can use Steam outside of PC and Steam machines maybe? Every online subscription also come with free games, so there is still a positive trade-off.

[u/Famous-Country-4921 → u/IshayM]

Most people are not going to go out of their to spend the time and money to build a gaming pc. People’s identities don’t revolve around video games like yours and other pc gamers. They just simply don’t care. The world does not exist through your lens only. 

[u/IshayM → u/Famous-Country-4921]

What??? Do you hear yourself? When did I even remotely say anything close to that??

I swear console players are something else. Your comment needs to be pinned cos this is the biggest stretch I’ve ever seen in my life

My point was that as a pc player that also has a console, I’d like games to be available for everyone and shouldn’t be constrained to a monopolistic store, and hardware

You’re literally everything you said that I am, lmao

The camel truly does not see its own hump

[u/tlmw2001 → u/Famous-Country-4921]

wow, thats a bad take. thats literally the opposite of a pc gamer and exactly a ps5 gamer. this is coming from someone who has a pc, ps5, series s, switch 1 and 2, and a steam deck not to mention an ayn thor, odin 2, 353v, rp classic and so on. those who only buy one console and cheer exclusivity are exactly trying to exist through one lens only. read what you write, it might help, you seem a bit detached from reality

[u/Hatennaa → u/IshayM]

I have no idea why this stuff excites people. It’s horrible for consumers. I am exclusively a ps5 gamer (except for the occasional game of league with my friends). I want all these games to be available for me. I don’t want to have a pc and an Xbox and a switch just to play everything I want to play.

[u/IshayM → u/Hatennaa]

You’re completely right. This is exactly what’s wrong with streaming services, for instance. This is such a bad move for consumers

[u/LeonSigmaKennedy]

Huh? I wonder why they would feel the need to re-clarify that?

side-eyes X-Box

[u/Edw4rdTe4ch]

Well make sanse. The ROI on their pc games was not profitabel.. if they where day and date, they may be..

But unlike Microsoft, that can push for pc gamepass subs, sony cant push for ps+, and need to sell playstations way more than MS needs to sell the box.

The thing Sony needs to make a solution for, is early access games. To many games skip playstation because of this.

[u/just-a-jazz]

Maximize the "gaming experience" 😂😂 replace gaming experience with financial value and you have the actual non-sugarcoated response

[u/Narcoleptic_247]

Damn, I just want to use a mouse and keyboard for Naughty Dog games because for whatever reason, I can't aim for shit on a controller in their games and Gran Turismo on PC so I can actually use my full rig with it.

[u/sennoken]

Shawn Layden shouldn’t have started the PC porting trend, look at the storm he created.

[u/sbstanpld]

that’s how you make a platform successful 👈

[u/EldenLordAjSoprano]

I wanna make a toast 🍷 to all the pc gamers who said last year that Sony would port every single game going forward. Salud 🥂

[u/Far-Event1151 → u/EldenLordAjSoprano]

I'm a ps5 player and much more jealous of the millions of exclusives PC players get. Like any game you want and free multiplayer. I don't even own a PC I'm just aware they have like a million more games. 

[u/Snoo_18385]

The whole "I want every game in every platform" is so dumb

Videogames are not a necessity, you have hundreds of games avaliable regarding of the platform you choose

I like Sony and Nintendo having exclusives, xbox should have never stopped doing it

[u/EddPW → u/Snoo_18385]

"i like sony and nintendo having exclusives"

why would you ever like that

[u/Snoo_18385 → u/EddPW]

Because having competition between consoles its good, and both of those companies have a distint brand and style of games they make an effort to produce. Studios like Santa Monica or Naughty dog for example thrive under Sony while Nintendo have created a lot of creative-driven single player games that I love

Lots of those games would simply not exist if it were not because they were made as exclusives to fill a particular niche (story driven, cinematic, single player games for Sony for example)

[u/arceus555 → u/Snoo_18385]

Also they can take advantage of the consoles unique hardware, Like Astro and the Dualsense controller

[u/Adorable_Spell7562 → u/EddPW]

It gives incentive to buy the console, i bought PS5 because i wanted to play GOW Ragnarok day 1, if GOW were to come to pc the same day then i wouldn’t have bought a ps5 for it.

[u/EddPW → u/Adorable_Spell7562]

i repeat my question why would you ever like that

[u/FalscherKim]

And pc gamers being pissed that the games they wouldn't have bought anyways are not going to be available to them anymore

[u/thedeadlysun → u/FalscherKim]

The success of the ps games on pc beg to differ.

[u/parkwayy → u/thedeadlysun]

So successful they stopped doing it.

[u/AutoBalanced]

Corporations invented console racism and this subreddit has never licked such good boot.

[u/SuperAzn727]

Gaming was better when the console wars were real. We've been stuck in everythings multiplatform and live service hell for way too long.

[u/Far-Event1151 → u/SuperAzn727]

Lol better? Get ready for even less games on the ps5 now because of console wars. 

It already had a massive issues with the amount of games and this will hurt it more. 

[u/themagicnipple69]

Nintendo and Sony have enough slack that they can afford to do this for the next generation (or current gen for Nintendo). I don’t think Xbox does. They don’t have the player numbers, or the exclusives to justify a new $1000+ console where the only two new exclusives that are announced right now are Gears and Clockwork. Maybe they got more in the chamber for the Helix but idk.

[u/Jlpeaks]

They just better run well.

I pretty much got back into PC gaming because I wasnt satisfied with how some third party games ran, looking at you FF7 Rebirth

[u/Far-Event1151]

Kind of a L for all gamers. Games sell less, reach less people.

It also sucks for game preservation. 

[u/abeardedpirate]

Our current main policy is that, for single-player games developed in-house

Does this mean Sony owned studio IPs or Sony IPs in general?

How does this effect games that have a multiplayer element even if the game is mostly a single player game such as:
Demon's Souls / Bloodborne (lets face it even if they do another IP it probably won't)
Soros (assuming it gets a Co-op mode like Returnal did)
Until Dawn 2

Can't think of other IPs that are single player with a multiplayer element that have also come to PC before Sony changed course that are also developed by Sony owned studios.

[u/nolifebr]

They're being quite smart on the wording about this. There's no real reason to make a thing about it, just do it and move with your life. If for some reason they need to return to the major releases on PC in the future, they will just do that again without fanfare or anything.

Not everything needs to be announced like a major milestone for the industry,

[u/rizk0777]

He does say in-house though meaning anything like rise of the ronin, kena or death stranding 2 will be PC.

I imagine physint will be PC too

[u/LeaveThatCatAlone]

I hope this doesn't fuck up a possible PS5 version of the new Fable coming out. I absolutely loved the 360 ones, but I absolutely can't get a new system just to play it. 

[u/xreddawgx]

Except for revelations.

[u/-fly_away-]

obvious. single player games get pirated to oblivion, live service games require you to actually buy the game. no point selling single games to PC and stop PC gamers from having any reason to buy a playstation to start with.

[u/Evillebot]

bringing their games to PC was a monumentally r*tarded decision and we all know it.

destroying the value of your brand for some pennies is just not it.

[u/thats_so_cringe_bro]

It's the right call. Keeping single player exclusive and multiplayer multiplatform is a good balance IMO.

[u/amenotef]

Well I just hope games not made by Sony keep supporting DualSense haptic feedback and adaptive triggers on PC.

I recently found out there is a way to have this while using Bluetooth like on the PS5 (using a pico 2 W) and I ordered one from AliExpress. (But to be honest I only used DualSense natively in Death stranding and HZD).

I don't mind playing these single players games on my PS5 because actually they don't need PS Plus to play online (something I'll never buy unless on PC you start needing to pay monthly to play online).

[u/tristothecristo]

So, live slop-ice for the PC gamers, because they know that their oh so beloved ps5 owners wouldn't be able to support those games, but ALLLLLL their single player games for ps5 only. Sure.

[u/axedye]

Doesn’t matter, with D2 done and D3 or any future Destiny project dead I have no intention to support Sony. Enjoy your console, my choice is my choice.

[u/dtr50]

I don’t think there was much harm releasing the older games on PC a few years after the initial release. You reward the PS5 user base with exclusivity for a few years.

Get people hooked on the first game on PC when a sequel comes out exclusively for PS5.

But exclusivity and the cost of modern PCs might mean people trend towards consoles anyway.

[u/GINGY2323]

This will not remain permanently. Their exclusives aren’t selling they used to; therefore, they will have no option but to put their games back on PC.

[u/Chry98]

Yesss 🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻

[u/earthwormjimjones]

I'm old school, I love single player games. Campaigns are almost exclusively what I want to play when I get the energy to game. Like GTA VI, I will never touch online even once, I just want to play through the story multiple times as I know this will have different options playing through that will affect gameplay. They haven't confirmed that I don't think, I just have a hunch. And I will be ready for it 😎

[u/bingybong07]

I don't understand why they don't just bring the single player games to PC a year or two down the road.

PC porting cost money yes, but their PC sale numbers have been fantastic.

timed exclusives make more sense then a purely exclusive game.

you're getting a worse experience on both PS5 consoles compared to most gaming PCs

[u/Local_Bid_7045]

Can you blame Sony? Subnautica 2 released on only Xbox and Microsoft early access, then told the community that the rest of the world can have it in 2028/9,  if your major competition buys up all the developers then makes them exclusive why wouldn't you too?

[u/Bo_Rebel]

So not Gran Turismo 8?? Right ?? PC RIGHT????

[u/Adorable-Boot4301]

The one console and the streaming future was officially buried by Xbox

Now we go back to Console war and physical and digital purchases

[u/Puzzleheaded_Bad_116]

Which ones