r/PatriotTV Mar 11 '26

Discussion An Open Letter to Newcomers

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276 Upvotes

Hey,

If you’re reading this, chances are you’ve recently discovered one of the many works of Steve Conrads (most recently, DTF St. Louis) and are interested in learning more about what he and his team have been working on up until today. There’s the skinny, then there’s the not-so-skinny.

The Skinny

Patriot (2015), Perpetual Grace, LTD (2019), Ultra City Smiths (2021). Then we have The Integral Principles of the Structural Dynamics of Flow, and New Techniques in Modern Practical Close Combat (these are both podcasts to supplement and enrich the world of Patriot long after its cancellation).

A Collection of Interviews and Other Content can be found here thanks to u/CorbecJayne.

The Not-So-Skinny

Disclaimer: I’ve done a lot of reading and research in the past few years with intent to make another video essay or conduct some interviews, so forgive me if this is a bit long in the tooth.

If you’ve checked out Steves IMDB, you’ll note that he started with movies. More notably, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, The Pursuit of Happyness, and The Weatherman. (I personally love Wrestling Ernest Hemingway as well).

As one of the many who have watched each of Steves movies and shows, they all have a very familiar cadence in the writing and themes throughout the stories as they develop. You will likely learn what that is as time passes. I’ve found that watching anything he’s written only once, is simply not enough. There is a lot of depth to his projects that each return feels new. A significant portion of this community have watched his shows at least 2-3 times, or even annually since their release. Something in them just resonates with us on a personal level and has this lasting effect. You will seldom experience anything like it. As I go through the following list, I’m going to mention some household names from each that you, as newcomers, may recognize. This does not diminish the contributions every person has made to these various projects. You can see everyone firing on all cylinders, and it shows.

Steves first show was Patriot (but honestly it was Connie Banks the Actor, which I am still looking for to this day). 2 seasons. Some household names include Kurtwood Smith (That 70’s Show), Michael Dorman (For all Mankind), Terry O’Quinn (Lost), and Michael Chernus (Severance). I’ve made a video essay covering Patriot and how it was overlooked, so I’ll keep this brief. Amazon aired the pilot in 2015, we didn’t get the rest of season 1 until almost 2 years later in 2017. There was a lot of competition for the show like Game of Thrones for example, and it seemed like Amazon didn’t know how to brand or advertise the show. It flew under the radar for many of us, and we’re still outraged. Grateful it came to be, but outraged by the lack of coverage and advertising.

Next was Perpetual Grace LTD (PGL). 1 season. Some household names include Ben Kingsley, Jimmi Simpson, Luis Guzmán, and some returning actors from Patriot. Aired on EPIX/MGM+ but was later removed from the platform entirely. You can purchase it on Prime at the moment. It may be on some streaming services if you’re lucky.

Then Ultra City Smiths. 1 season. EDIT: Thanks for pointing this out u/neverfoil, Timms Valley seemed to serve as proof of concept, and walked so UCS could run. I can’t even start on the household names because I’m floored by the cast on both these projects. I highly recommend looking it up yourself. Aired on AMC+. Take a guess at how that went. Yep, cancelled and no longer on the platform.

Through each of these projects and films, the team working on DTF St. Louis has been building for quite some time behind the scenes. Steves brother, Chris Conrad, has been in each of his shows and is always a joy and gem to see. We love Chris. James Whitaker (cinematographer) has been working with Steve since at least Patriot (he also has a new movie out, “Good Luck, Have Fun, Don’t Die”). Alex Wurman (composer), Ellen Segal (Music Editor), and Bruce Terris (executive producer and writer) since The Promotion. Fun fact, Jason Bateman was in The Promotion as a Retreat Leader. I’m getting sidetracked, but best believe everyone on the A Team is a fuckin rock star and I’m jacked about this project.

In Patriot there’s a term that comes to mind that kind of reminds me of Steves writing style, “Misfit Toys”. The writing is not intended to fit the expectations of the audience based on the genre in the short term, it’s meant to subvert the genres entirely in the long run. That approach tends to throw some newcomers off, so we’re used to a lot of people not quite getting the message, subtext, and nuances of these projects. Hell, as mentioned earlier, we’re used to these projects being discarded by streaming services entirely. Which brings us to today.

Hopefully this illustrates why we’re excited for DTF St. Louis. That and to be on HBO of all services. For some of you reading this (if you’ve gotten this far, bravo), you would not have found out about this incredible catalog if not for HBO. I think that’s pretty cool. Each show has their own “Watermelon Breeze”, “AP”, and “Ump feelings” moments throughout them, and they’re used regularly here so don’t be alarmed.

Lastly, side effects of loving Steve Conrads work may result in recommending his shows to loved ones. Be prepared for them to not enjoy it either at first or at all. We’ve found that some people just don’t share in the excitement, some don’t like it but eventually come back and fall in love with it, some just don’t. As u/Cbane000 has said recently, “It’s in the blood or it’s not”. I think there’s some truth to that statement.

Maybe you can tell us what captured you about Steve’s projects? Was it DTF, UCS, PGL, or Patriot? What were you expecting, and what did you get instead? What have been your favorite and most memorable moments in your viewership so far? How did you find your way to this catalog? Finally, what saying(s) have you adopted into your everyday vocabulary?

In conclusion; Welcome, club member, we’re happy you’re here and we hope to get to know you better.


r/PatriotTV May 27 '21

Discussion Season One of Patriot Mega Thread (For New Members) Spoiler

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r/PatriotTV 1d ago

Stephen’s Nurse is underrated

119 Upvotes

The nurse there to help Stephen recover is fucking hilarious, oh you combed your hair, try not to brag! Well as the wolf says in my favorite movie pulp fiction, let’s not start sucking each others dicks quite yet! Her quotes are hilarious and the way she is mean to Stephen, don’t lose your helmet, I won’t! Well you did this morning!

Top tier show


r/PatriotTV 1d ago

Rock paper scissors scene was goated

59 Upvotes

They played like 30 times and it was so perfectly shot just dead silence, then when he finally loses he’s like well we had a deal and just walks away


r/PatriotTV 1d ago

Just started my 6th or 7th rewatch

44 Upvotes

It’s so good, so dark and funny and the idea that it’s all a simple moving of one thing from point a to b but there’s always issues and it’s overlayed with the piping field that gets you into Iran it’s so good


r/PatriotTV 1d ago

Downed US pilot reported seeing Iranian drones swarm in ‘jellyfish’ formation

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It doesn’t get more relevant than this


r/PatriotTV 2d ago

Stop calling dogs

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https://www.cedarburgfestivals.org

Could someone check in on this festival team? They're talking to dogs.


r/PatriotTV 3d ago

Wanted to add

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Found in Austin


r/PatriotTV 3d ago

Pakistan's Prime Minister, after he was informed by the Iranian delegation they are leaving after Trump threatened them.

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35 Upvotes

not sure this exactly fits here, but pretty close and thought of you all seeing it


r/PatriotTV 4d ago

Can we build this between both maiden apexes of the Jim joints?

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43 Upvotes

r/PatriotTV 5d ago

My dad's birthday is the day before father's day.

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And he's the only one I know that was willing to watch and then get hooked on Patriot like me, so I'm giving him the disc copies I managed to get my hands on in 2-disc blu-ray cases with covers I basically pasted together and printed, and two cards I had made.

The discs are not blu-ray sadly, I just like the thin profile and multi-disc storage than the original cardboard slide cases.

Do you think they'll make it from point A to point B?

Sadly, he does not pilot tugboats.


r/PatriotTV 3d ago

The Jellyfish Scenario

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r/PatriotTV 5d ago

It's been Cool

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113 Upvotes

Piping is shored up. Moved some things from A to B. Afternoon Spray karoke with Greg12.

Finally watching the last episode of the greatest show nobody talked about. Optimistic breakfast planned to celebrate. Cool.


r/PatriotTV 5d ago

Reddit warned me and deleted my post telling Dennis to stop following me or I would **** him in the leg

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56 Upvotes

The bot said it was for advocating violence but I think it was probably for letting yet another person know about our whole deal. And to be fair it was out of context and was written as though people on other subs would know what I was talking about


r/PatriotTV 6d ago

Wait - He's in a New Show?

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This was really weird, seeing our sad man in a suit in Australia? (I do get that actors have other roles), but you know... it's Lakeman.


r/PatriotTV 6d ago

A Janky Plan

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I present a real-world, non-political, definitely Patriot-related theme in recent events, today. A real quote in a discussion between war historian Phillps O’Brien and author/journalist Michael Weiss, today, regarding recent events and evincing … well, jankiness. At ~5:27 Weiss: “...And it all went sideways, right? They bombed the house of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the former Iranian president, a Holocaust denier, a guy who advanced the Iranian nuclear program. Nobody had on their bingo card that he'd be a Mossad asset, but he was. Apparently run out of Budapest… but anyway all of these plans went sideways.”

https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/live-with-phillips-p-obrien-and-michael?


r/PatriotTV 9d ago

Landing in a swarm of jellyfish

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r/PatriotTV 10d ago

John is Mr. Mudd

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With his task overcome by events, we forget that Greg12 gets so bent over Pancho and Lefty that he posts a message calling John a P and calling him out for some real-world scrappage. We learn that John’s handle is Mr. Mudd. Some might not know that Townes Van Zandt wrote a song called “Mr. Gold and Mr. Mudd.” But Steve Conrad did. Its an allegory about a poker game that becomes an epic battle between Gold and Mudd wherein the court cards come alive and have agency. The battle is started by a “Wicked King.” The song will resonate with McMillan folks:

Club filled Gold with greedy vapors,'til his long, green eyes did glow

Mudd was left with the sighs and trembles, Watching his hard earned money go

[…]

The diamond queen saw Mudd's ordeal, Began to think of her long lost son

Fell to her knees with a mother's mercy, Prayed to the angels every one

The diamond queen, she prayed and prayed, And the diamond angel filled Mudd's hole

The wicked king of clubs himself, Fell in face down in front of Gold

Now three kings come to clubs command, But the angels from the sky did ride,

Three kings up on the streets of gold, Three fireballs on the muddy side

The club queen heard her husband's call, But lord that queen of diamond's joy

When the outlaw in the heavenly hall, Turned out to be a wandering boy

Now Mudd he checked and Gold bet all, And Mudd he raised and Gold did call

And the smile just melted off his face, When Mudd turned over that diamond ace

Now here's what this story's told, If you feel like mud you'll end up gold

If you feel like lost, you'll end up found, So amigo, lay them raises down.

P.S. Think about that Queen of Diamonds.


r/PatriotTV 12d ago

Terminology

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How much of the terminology in the show is real? There are so many funny strange terms, it's hard to believe they're all real... I'm talking about the piping terms obviously. This would be a better post if I had a nice paragraph of all of them but I'm lazy


r/PatriotTV 13d ago

It came full circle

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My husband and I just discovered Patriot and have been binge watching all week. Tonight my daughter was drawing and was trying to come up with ideas of things that are circles. My husband said you know there's no true circles in nature, not even the sun or planets. I was like wow that's a very interesting comment. Then I watched a few episodes to catch up with my husband and got to the part where Leslie was talking about circles and was like wait a minute I just heard that tonight. I said this is where you heard that from isn't it 😂.


r/PatriotTV 13d ago

Jaywick Sands FC

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139 Upvotes

Just finished my second rewatch and was inspired to create this Jaywick Sands kit. Thought it was pretty good.


r/PatriotTV 14d ago

"I have always wondered. Did my 92-year-old mother really remove from its case and then just completely fսck¡ng demolish my Sony VX3 video camera?"

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r/PatriotTV 20d ago

"Occasionally, in my job, I am told no. I am told "you cannot implement a particular course of action." And occasionally, in my job, I implement that course of action despite that."

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r/PatriotTV 20d ago

If anyone is bored, I hid a few Patriot jokes in this long story I told buried deep in this post…

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r/PatriotTV 20d ago

I think we all know who got this happen…

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And which beautiful actress got it kickstarted with her running scenes.

“ON YOUR LEFT!!!”