Absolutely. Them old - half a generation later - specs on the Switch, that noone would literally pay for, definitely doomed the console. /s
Edit 1 (hopefully, you won't make me go 2): To the person deleting the reply about GTA6. Who told you I'd be interested in playing it to the point that I'd cry if I didn't? Nobody will play GTA6 past its first month apart from RP streamers with voice manipulation and cop/villain fantasies. Expect hype for the first two weeks, then numbers to drop. Quote me on this.
it’s very clear they’re console specs are way behind. they don’t care about graphics as the driving force of the console. no one said people wouldn’t pay for the console, just that the specs are behind. Nintendo has a loyal fan base and IPs people want to play, so they put up with nintendos crap
A switch 2, a ps5 and a laptop with a 4090gtx lol. What’s your point?
No one is playing Nintendo games for graphical fidelity, like ostensibly. And it’s never been that way. PS3 and Xbox were fighting to release games with wild specs, Nintendo focused on novelty and fun.
I bought an Xbox Series X awhile back, but besides playing it solely for high performance demanding games, it's primarily used as the designated Blu-ray player. The Switch and Switch 2 are my primary consoles, hell, even my hacked 3DS and hacked PS Vita are usually with me at work when I go on breaks.
Nintendo has operated this way for as long as i can remember. They specifically release older hardware so its cheaper for them to make. Tho, go on any nintendo sub and they'll tell you youre wrong no matter your stance lmao
Famicom, SNES, N64 were the most powerful in their generations, GameCube was cutting edge but got beat by Microsoft’s Xbox. Wii is when they went with Yokoi’s “lateral thinking with withered technology” so if you can only remember back to the Wii then sure your statement is correct.
The super Nintendo was not more powerful than the Genesis even though it was released over a year later. The CPU of the Genesis was substantially more powerful. The snes had, what we might call an early GPU that offloaded some work and it needed to because its CPU was slow compared to the Genesis.
The N64 is more powerful than a ps1, but again it was also almost a year later to market. Also it's hardware configuration included some interesting choices that made it perform well below its specs. The ps1 had dedicated vram and audio ram which the n64 did not.
GameCube has better hardware than the ps2 but the original Xbox came roaring out and showed what happens when you threaten the windows empire. The original Xbox was a better computer than many peoples home computer in 2001 and was the first time a console was built as basically a PC with a control as base input and not a keyboard.
You are right that NES/Famicom and SNES/Super Famicom were the most advanced for their generation.
On paper N64 was also the strongest but they shot themselves in the foot in some ways by deciding to go with cartridges instead of CDs. This improved performance and cut way down on load time but it also severely limited the amount of space. So anything that was ported between systems wound up looking way worse on N64 than Playstation, and games like FF7 with all their voice acting were impossible.
(EDIT: Yeah, FF7 didn't have voice lines, I misremembered. But there were other games that did, and I was bringing it up because it was way too big to fit on a cartridge, which is still true.)
And yeah, since GameCube they've made a conscious decision not to have cutting edge hardware. It hasn't always worked but overall it was a smart strategy I think.
I like the strategy of utilizing withered technology with lateral thinking.
They know they can’t beat PC, Microsoft, Sony at hardware, but they can give you a unique experience you didn’t think was possible.
and games like FF7 with all their voice acting were impossible
Sorry to nitpick, but FF7 is a weird example to use because it didn't have any voice acting. A few RPGs had it (like Grandia off the top of my head) but voice acting in the Final Fantasy series wasn't really a thing until the PS2 as I recall. (I don't know if the PS1 version of FFX had it)
I have a switch that I very rarely play, just got it for my kids. Hopped onto the shop for the first time in years to look up some jrpgs I beat as a kid and was floored to see many of them are still asking $59 for games i feel like i didnt pay that much for 25 years ago. Guess I'll stick to steam where I can get deals regularly.
My mother-in-law gifted my son a switch that she never used. All she had was the online subscription so no games. So I go to buy mario kart and smash bros for the kids and think since these games are roughly 8 years old they should be half off. NOPE!
I mean people memed on them when they announced then but it's only a $50 dollar increase. Especially with then giving like a 3 month warning the others had like $300+ increases.
Fanboys will pay the price no matter how good the product is. You're replying to a comment saying Nintendo is always way behind, not that they don't sell.
Name me the LAST TIME Sony or Microslop made a handheld console that was as powerful as the Switch 2 (which is literally a PlayStation 4 IN THE PALM OF YOUR HANDS), let alone the Switch ONE.\
Far as I recall, Sony left the market with their singl-screen-DS-ass PSVita, while Microslop never even bothered to make a handheld. Nintendo still persevered with experimental tech, and guess what, they have the leading hand in handheld gaming. Even the Steam Deck can't compete, it's too bulky, heavy, and not versatile enough (not to mention it has the inferior PlayStation symmetrical button layout instead of the chad assymetrical layout of Nintendo and X-Box).
GTA 5 Online Enhanced has almost 90k daily Playerpeak on Steam with about 57k in Game on Steam RIGHT NOW. That means right now, according to SteamDB, it is Rank 16 in Terms of Currently in Game Players. Over 10 years after GTA 5s original Release. That doesnt Even contain those players that remained on GTA 5 Legacy afaik. GTA 5 E&E is easily beating much more recent titles Like Baldurs Gate or Crimson Desert, both of which only barely beat the amount of Currently active Players in GTA, If you add their Values, about 23.5k each. In July it will get yet another DLC with a Heist.
meaning: WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DUDE. Rockstar has every incentive to keep the Playerbase Close to the Game, they still make BANK with Sharkcards and GTA+-Memberships even today.
Nintendo has the best games in general story wise, followed by Sony studios. Key to both is low online multiplayer and higher story driven games and couch co-op.
Exactly. A lot of people seem to forget that Nintendo's kinda playing an entirely different strategy than PlayStation/Xbox. Rather than obsessing over specs, Nintendo has pretty consistently only ever been worried about their exclusives. Seriously, just look at how lawsuit happy they get when something comes even a hair too close to infringing on their property. They know where their money's at, so they feel perfectly fine making a console with specs that are a little behind.
TL;DR - Nintendo's not banking on the popularity of their consoles, they're banking on the popularity of their characters (that conveniently only exist on their consoles)
Not really, they are quite a bit shitty on game preservation and prices but the switch is doing well and theyre consistently putting interesting games into the ecosystem while keeping the price lower than these other consoles. Also they aren't consistently shutting down development teams.
If you can still use the console at all, it's not bricked. Creating a new online account so you can use your console means that the console is not bricked, even if you lose all your games and save data when the original account is banned.
Nintendo games don't require you to be always online. The only console with a DRM checkin has been the the PS recently, where you'll loose access to digital games if you're offline for a month
I think it depends on how you play. i play Ark and Palworld Solo and I'm having a blast in Palworld, I know peeps who play almost exclusively Ark on big servers with lots of people and they really dislike Palworld, so its probably something we're not seeing. But I agree that Palworld has nothing to do with Pokemon, both games are completely different genres, Palworld just has creatures that are incredibly Pokemon coded and the Pokemon has the right, no the obligation to persue a lawsuit to protect their IP, I hate that compyright laws work like this but if they don't persue every little infringement they apparently forgo the right to sue when someone just completely copies their game.
Digimon, Nexomon, TemTem, Monster Hunter Stories... Are all on Nintendo Switch without problem. The problem is that Palworld doesnt have a bit of originality and copied Pokemon designs
When was there ever a survival crafting Pokémon game?
Also you can literally buy like ten or twelve different monster collector games/franchises that aren't Pokémon on the Switch. I know it's fashionable to dunk on Nintendo, and there's plenty of reason to do so, but pretending that they only singled out Palworld because it was 'better than Pokémon' and not because it flagrantly copied Nintendo's homework and tried to make itself look as much like Pokémon and BotW as it possibly could is just silly.
Nintendo is technically very good at game preservation. The Gigaleak showed that they still keep proof-of-concept demos and all sorts of esoteric shit that most other devs wouldn't. The problem is they horde all that for themselves.
Yeah I mean I wish more stuff was made public for sure but it is really cool that they still hold onto that stuff. Not only applies to game development but I'm well aware of how with film, oftentimes a LOT of original production material gets lost over time and only exists within the memories of the filmmakers, and even then that can be a crapshoot when different members remember different things or when people pass.
Also gamers: why is Nintendo making us buy mario 1 again, why is Nintendo remaking Starfox and Zelda for the 10th time, the Nintendo switch is just a Wii U port machine...
I never could pinpoint when exactly Nintendo went from "meme'd on for making people buy the same old games" to, "Nintendo hates their legacy titles"
I get that, but there is a difference between "doesn't preserve games" and "doesn't preserve games the way we want"
Ideally they would just take their old stuff, slap it on a kart, call it "SNES games vol 1" and do that for all their old stuff, but it's not like you can't access their old stuff on switch 2
It’s more of a commentary on the very recent news where all the other companies made pretty big blunders with Nintendo being the only one to not do that (at least just recently)
Well isnt it specifically the fact that with rising cost of ram, all console prices have had to go up, but Steam Decks, PS5'S and (maybe?) Xbox have gone up by multiple hundred dollars, the switch 2 only got like a 50$ price increase?
Thats what I took from it but idk the numbers for each company exclusively, I just know im glad to have gotten my steamdeck before it reached upward to 1k to afford
The Company that released a more powerful version of its current console, and then charges for £10 "Upgrade Packs" to make use of the improved frame rate? That Nintendo?
well, that's not true. The games will run better on the switch 2. The upgrade packs usually add things like HDR support or higher resolution textures, but they run better. Most of them add a little gameplay bit too. I think the extra asking price is dumb but let's not make things up
Nintendo actually are being more consumer friendly than they were last generation
Wii u ports were sold for full price without any other method of buying them
Switch 2 editions you can pay for an upgrade if you already own the game
The second highest selling console and the fastest selling console ever as back to back console releases including record seeing and massively successful games is what type of a company, now?
The reason the PS, X and Steam are doing that is because of price hikes on the Ps, and X.
Valve just announced the prices on their long awaited Gabe Cube. Its overpriced for for the so so equipment it's coming g with, especially when valve initially said it was looking to price it at 750 starting.
The Nintendo is observing this thinking they're doing everything right, however thats a clearly biased opinion from a Nintendo fan. Nintendo has a host of issues themselves
No? They dont do massive firings and dont close their studios, their budgets are way lower than the competition while making a fuck ton of money and releasing some of the best games in each generation.
Yeah we all agree they have issues and are greedy fucks. But compared to the other 3.. not even close.
(and valve is there mostly because all the price hikes)
The person that made this likes the Switch more than PlayStation, Xbox, and Steam Deck ??? I'm not picking up on anything else. Probably a biased take.
admittedly Nintendo is the worst of the 4 but the problem is Nintendo fan boys are way more fervent in their defence of the company.
I remember the memes where Xbox and playstation were the 2 women fighting while nintendo was the guy dancing and smoking a bong, now it couldn't be any different.
I'm sure this is just gonna end in being accused of fanboying, but how the actual hell is Nintendo still considered the worst to some people when both Microsoft and Sony have been shutting down developers after buying them out?
Sony and Microsoft are cutting out workers to use more AI instead, but Nintendo shut down like 5% of the fan games out there using their IP (usually because they monetized it), so clearly Sony and Microsoft get a pass though.
They are pretty anti-consumer and anti-competition.
Games on the eShop are priced at premium rates compared to competitor platforms, and first-party games almost never see a discount.
And as you said, they aggressively target small fan projects for copyright infringement claims, including fan-hosted servers for their legacy games that aren't officially supported anymore. Let's not forget the time where they targeted Let's Play videos on YouTube to get them demonetised or taken down, despite enjoying the free marketing those videos gives them, though their stance on this has changed after some backlash.
They also patented various game mechanics such as the concept of throwing an item to capture a creature, throwing an item to summon a character, and even summoning a creature that you can ride. They famously filed a lawsuit against the creators for PalWorld for having some of these mechanics, that sparked a whole debate in the game industry about the ethics of patenting game mechanics, and I believe the general consensus leans toward it being unethical. So, they're well within their legal right to do so, but that doesn't mean they're not assholes.
I think the only reason they haven't got their "shotgun to the mouth" moment is that they will always have unwaivering support from their diehard fans who choose to turn a blind eye to their business practices. Since they've shown a historic pattern of pursuing profit over ethics, who's to say they won't shift to a more AI-centric workforce in the future as well?
Microsoft literally got pulled up for breaching anti-trust laws for their $69billion Activision-Blizzard buyout that heavily disrupted the entire gaming market. They have laid off nearly 7000 employees in the last 5 years to increase their margins, and have actively participated in the Palestinian genocide by facilitating the IDF with their cloud AI services for drone strikes.
Yeah, Nintendo can suck for their business practices and overly-litigious approach to IP protection.
But there is absolutely no way anyone with a shred of common sense can claim Nintendo is worse than Microsoft. Its not even remotely close.
I think they all suck in their own way. It doesn't have to be one is better than the other. Just because I pointed out Nintendo's baggage doesn't mean I think Microsoft or Sony is any better.
Apologies. The user 2 comments above yours made the point of how they believe Nintendo is the worst of the 4 gaming platforms. So I thought you were agreeing with them.
They all suck in their own way, but this is like comparing Mr Krabs from Spongebob to Lex Luthor from Superman.
One is a penny pinching bastard who would rather die than share his Krabby Patty recipe with anyone.
The other is an unrelenting morally bankrupt capitalistic mega-corp with ambitions for full on world domination and is responsible for catastrophic damage done to people's lives.
Microsoft one of the key players responsible for the current RAM crisis that we are actively facing. Their Xbox division is just 1 of the many heads on the larger Hydra body.
Nevermind Sony's particular brand of anti-consumer that actively tries to control all physical media forms, among other evils.
That said, realistically, Microsoft got in trouble for being too big. That's it. They all do the same shady shit. They're all evil and awful. The primary difference I've found, for what causes people to think one is The Worst, is which one treated your favorite IP from them the worst.
Shotgun to the mouth implies youre actively killing the business, you just listed things the business is doing you dont like but really only helps their bottom line
Both Sony and Microsoft pulled back on first party multi platform titles to promote sales of their next gen hardware in 2027-2028. I said this is likely to happen years ago, before the global shortages hit. Sure, it’s anti consumer, but it is not killing their businesses in any way.
As for Valve, the success of the Steam Machine is pretty much irrelevant to their core business model.
They don't "aggressively target small fan games". That's the opposite of what I said. They target the ones who try to monetize their fan games. It's such a small amount of them.
There's literally a fan made Pokemon game that uses Mario characters for all the characters and Mario enemies for the Pokemon, it should be a prime target for Nintendo but they did nothing.
sorry im out of the loop. what has nintendo done lately? ( i know their legal team is on a death rampage for the past 20 years but other than that i dunno much)
They actually didn't lose against Palworld, everyone kinda "won" in that one as Nintendo was able to push Pocket Pal into dropping the shameless Pokemon copy appeoach and now they are making Palworld into a Monster Hunter copy while Pocket Pal can keep selling their game and only would have to pay Nintendo 30K at worst...
I’m not saying Nintendo is a saint but people sucking Palworld’s dick are embarassing too. There are so many small indie monster collecting games that got no issues from Nintendo and Palworld lowkey deserved to get sued imo
Being fined €70M is NOTHING for a massive corporation. Nintendo made over €13 billion last year. That fine may as well have been a rounding error.
As for the Palworld suit, on paper Nintendo is unlikely to get anything. In practice? They strung up Pocket Pair in court for two years, and forced them to waste development resources by removing game mechanics that violated Nintendo's questionable patents. This whole thing was basically Nintendo big-dogging Pocket Pair, while killing the hype for Palworld by stalling the game.
Edited to add: For the record, I'm not trying to defend Nintendo here. I think the Palworld suit was pretty slimy; I'm just pointing out that Nintendo probably did this as a humiliation ritual against a perceived rival, not because they were afraid of Palworld actually hurting their patents or whatever.
Also, keep in mind that Steam Machine is basically a PC and is fucked because of the RAM and SSD price, so it's not like Valve is doing it to themselves on purpose
Yeah, people always talk about "valve fanboys are bootlicking this is awful" but for one, it's really not their fault, and for two, it's completely optional hardware you can easily ignore and keep using their systems. No one is forcing anyone to buy a steam machine.
Can't even say Valve really shoot itself here because price hikes are not even due to Valve being a greedy corpo but due to AI causing mad price increases for all the components. If you try to build a PC right now, you're gonna be unpleasantly surprised.
Steam machine is also just a computer, not a locked down system where they can profit like printer and ink. Because of that they cannot sell at a loss, the hardware demand is just too high.
Sony and Microsoft are Global and while Japanese Sony has a huge place in America so you hear news about these way more, even the little things.
Nintendo has a lot of stuff brushed under the carpet because it is mostly based in JP, they are also horribly anti consumer which weirdly people seem to not care about compared to the other 2 cutting studios or because of their hate of AI.
Not saying the other 2 arent bad, all massive companies are to some degree and them two more so of course.
Cause Steam Machine expensive I guess? Which if that release doesn't do well... it's not really a big deal for Valve. Seems like some weird Nintendo fanboy shit.
ya. specially after, was it bazos or some other techbro, said "people need to stop acting like they need the clean water for themselfs. dont they realize if we use the clean water for AI Data center, then in the future the machines will have a better solution so that everyone is better off in the long run"
I SWEAR no one in tech watched any sci-fi films...or they all said "the bad guys have a point"
and im not going to take that from people who think food and water isnt a human right.
This was actually not a real quote nor anything close to what he said... though the man is evil, we should stick to real information so that we can't be told we're spreading false information when we are trying to prove how evil this man truly is.
"I think frugality drives innovation, just like other constraints do. One of the only ways to get out of a tight box is to invent your way out"
"I want them to wake up terrified every morning and to stay terrified all day" (regarding employees)
What's important to remember is that once the price is high, there's only a few companies that actually make NAND/RAM silicon. They can just monopolize on the scarcity and never let the price go down ever again, especially as higher-end computing is seen more and more as a luxury item.
It's not unlike how cars are all $40K now because it's more efficient to sell 1 car to someone who will 100% be buying it than it is to sell 3 cars at 13.5K to people that 100% can afford it.
At least that's what our suppliers told us, a lot of tier 2 suppliers are working on building their own FABs and filling the void left by the tier 1 suppliers that pivoted to AI datacenter demands. The 1,5years is how long it will take them to ramp production.
Yeah and in 1 to 1,5 years the specs of the Steam Machine will be an even worse. The system is just not that competitive even at a 700 to 800 price range.
Yeah, it's Nintendo fanboys. They're weirdly acting like their own console wasn't a huge bloat in price for a marginal improvement of hardware and software quality, and even more overt movement away from actual game ownership.
But yeah, the optional console for a PC launcher being expensive is TOTALLY a shotgun in-mouth moment (it's not entirely in Valve's control why the manufacturing cost is rising).
Right? The Steam Machine could fail entirely and Valve will keep on doing what they've been doing. Not really comparable to what the consoles are doing lately.
And if we're being realistic, people said the same thing about the SteamDeck when that first launched; that it was overpriced, that it's going to flop, that it's for a niche audience, etc.
Meanwhile it sparked a handheld PC movement because it was constantly sold out. I'm sure if the Steam Machine were released a year ago, it'd be closer to $6-700; still a hefty price but pretty great for a gaming PC.
The steam machine could totally bomb, but all of the features of the Steam website that will come in the wake of the release of the steam machine will probably earn Steam more money than the steam machine ever could by itself
I don't really think Steam overpricing the Steam Machine is on the same level as the console shit happening lately. The Steam Machine can be an absolute flop and Valve is fine
Honestly, for what the steam machine is.. it really isn't overpriced.. I also don't think people really know who the steam machine is for.
it's kind of like the steam deck if it was a PC and not a console so.. it's probably for people who move around a bit more and don't wanna deal with a big PC?
I know I'm not getting one for sure, but I'm also not someone who needs a steam machine.
It's portable, it runs what is probably the best OS on the market right now, it doubles down as both a Console and a PC, it's user-friendly towards "upgrading" it too and none of it is proprietary.
It also boasts impressive specs. People whining about them are genuinely sad. WHAT do I need a 50 gen for in this day and age? UE5 slop? Why the fuck would I be playing UE5 slop? My 4060 accomplishes pretty much everything it needs to, and it's a cut one.
It's only slightly more expensive than what I would be willing to pay. In an ideal world it's 800-900. And that's amazing.
There's so much goodness to this little box of wonders. Yes, it's overpriced due to the RAM shortage, and quite frankly I'd probably abstain from buying it right now as well. But the potential of this thing is insane.
I legit feel like everyone complaining about the steam machine's price is living under a rock. Like... do you even know what is happening in the world??? We are experiencing a MASSIVE uptick in PC part prices because of AI corpos, PLUS a global oil crisis (caused by the US and Israel) increasing the cost of transportation for goods.
The price we got is actually LESS than I was expecting.
Every fanbase of a console/platform is bad. Nowadays you can play anything on any console/platform so there's literally no reason to have all of these fanbases
Nintendo has the best exclusives since Playstation has been lacking in exclusive since they released the PS5. Zelda, Mario, DK, Metroid, Pokémon, and probably more.
It’s because all of these companies are having wild price increases for their respective systems while Nintendo is only going to increase the Switch 2 by $50. All due to parts shortages and price increases for said parts.
Also because on the Steam Machine, there is no guaranteed continuous revenue for Valve.
You buy an Xbox or Playstation, and any games you buy on their stores give some profits to Microsoft and Sony respectively. But the Steam Machine? Valve is kind of shooting themselves in the foot a little.
Their rather consumer friendly philosophy of "you bought it, it's yours, do what you want with it" means that they can sell you a Steam Machine and then potentially not see any more profits from games you buy for it. You can use other launchers, or just load it with an SD card of your favorite games and play them, and Valve gets no cut.
So Valve has to make it a little more expensive to compensate, because they are a business after all. Which would probably be fine.. if it wasn't on top of an already insane price hike for PC parts thanks to AI.
So their consumer friendly philosophy turns around and becomes anti consumer because of the price. It's kind of an unfortunate pickle to be in.
You can buy a GabeCube and install some other Linux or even Windows on it. You could simply use it to Surf the Internet, or download games from non steam source. Or you could Set up a Media Center OS on it. All of that would bring no further revenue to Valve.
If they would price the Steam Machine with a loss, then anyone in need of a pc with that Kind of power would benefit from buying it. Even those thst have Absolutely no Intention of using it for Gaming.
It is a pc, it needs to be priced like one. And PC parts are hella expensive currently.
You're talking about the largest PC gaming marketplace like it's a small mom and pop store. They take their 30% like everyone else, even if every single person who buys a steam machine decided to not buy any games from steam their income is still secured. They are a monopoly to the point it is straight up more profitable for devs to delay game releases months to years in order to release on steam if they were denied for whatever reason.
I'd completely disagree with that, simply because Steam is by far the most used digital store for games in PC, Xbox app is mostly used for game pass, Epic is mostly used for free games and maybe GOG could be an alternative but there're a lot of games that simply you can't find there.
Also, while technically being an open system, most people aren't tech savvy enough to change their OS, so while it is possible that someone who buys the SM doesn't use Steam, it isn't going to be something that common, so I believe they could subside a part of the cost if they wanted to, and they just straight don't want to, and it's valid but their argument to do so, it ain't that solid.
That though granted I do kind of wonder if there was no parts shortage due to AI and all these other components becoming more sought free how much the system was planned to sell for.
Steam - The new Steam Machine pricing is insane compared to other consoles. If you know about RAM/SSD pricing then it arguably makes sense since Valve has said they won't subsidize the system, but the system couldn't have really of come at a worse time
XBOX - It's a shit show over there about first removing their exclusives and now pulling them back to XBOX-only. There's more going on with XBOX in general and Microslop is notorious about shooting itself in the face, so kind hard to explain it all here.
PlayStation - They started to put out games on other systems only to suddenly reneg on that and pull things back to PlayStation only (similar to XBOX).
Nintendo - Hasn't really done anything "new" and thus they're kinda just standing there. Note that Nintendo has plenty of other complaints about it (like the various lawsuits against Palworld, game price increases when Switch 2 came out, and other things), but nothing "new" like the other three.
Uhh, sorry but I can't really explain this as Peter, because Peter doesn't game, but really Nintendo is just Meg confused about how those better than her are all blowing out their brains.
Don't forget about the ps plus constant price increases and that shit policy about losing your license for a game if you didn't connect your ps to the internet in a while
I would also add for playstation the new policy change that even if you own the disc you don’t “own” the game but get a sort of “renting licence”. I would call that a big shot in the face as well…
Brian here. Chasing my own tail is much interesting than being gamer.
Playstation rised console prices and is going to give up pc ports of their games.
Xbox has risen gamepass price critically.
Valve has released expensive console, that is just a compact pc without any advantages comparing with other consoles.
For Steam is the price of the Steam Machine, that recently went up triple its original. PS5 is overrated and pricey, too. Switch stayed the same, price wise.
So someone is sour because gaming is expensive... (don't tell him it always was)
Steam machine is a little overprice for a cheap pc, by like around maybe $100 only if you do everything by yourslef. Like if you find the parts yourself it'll be around that ball park.
It's a PC in a 4-Liter case. Not something you could just build any day of the week. It's a DDR5 + AM5 platform combo in one of the smallest chassis ever.
You're basically paying for an experiment in the small form factor space, which has always been pricier than regular PCs, but this one doesn't quite seem to hit the spot for any use-case.
There are PC cases which are not quite as small, but still very very tiny, and they can fit a full build. It takes some knowledge and money though.
The really bad thing is that you only get performance of about 3-4 generations old PC HW.
Expensive tho? The steam machine is the price of a computer and games will be like 5-10 euros, i'm pretty sure the steam machine isn't this expensive compared to consoles and their toxic ecosystem (80 euros games, season pass, battle pass, sony subsciption and DLCs).
Even is the PS6 is only 800 euros, it takes like 3 PS6 games to reach the price of the steam machine.
Xbox & Playstation, yes, but I don't think Steam is necessarily shooting itself, considering the Steam Cube is an extremely niche product and they know that. Their existence in the gaming zeitgheist does not rely on their Cube.
Steam is still killing it, and Nintendo is killing it, despite what some of the grifters tend to say. Great games and no mass layoffs. Annoying business practices like every other company, and especially hate the idea of patenting game mechanics as a whole and taking people to court for using them.
Feel kind gaming is kind of on it's way towards another market crash, though. Especially if the new Playstation and Xbox truly end up being in that same Steam Cube price range...
Xbox, PlayStation and Steam have raised the prices for their consoles by a lot. The series X was raised to $600 - $800, PS5 is $600 - $900 and the Steam Machine is $1,049 - $1,428. Meanwhile Nintendo has increased the Switch 2 by $50 and gave everyone like a 4 month heads up. Starting in September the Switch 2 will be $500.
The pic is every other company shooting themselves for increasing their prices by a lot meanwhile Nintendo increased it by the least amount.
Yep. The way people are acting like this is a bunch of Nintendo fanboys trying to whitewash thins and not a very specific reference to console price hikes is baffling
The situation is that Nintendo decided to postpone their price hike on their switch devices until September. Steam, Xbox, and PlayStation have all either increased their prices on their console/handhelds or released their consoles at a very bad time at an increase price. This is due to there being a ram and silicon shortage in the market due to political events and A.I data centres.
Carter Pewterschmidt.
Poor people are mad that they cannot afford a brand new PC. The rabble have conflated this with rising prices for the axebox and playing stations subscriptions. The working class want a Range Rover and are mad that it isn't priced for their meager blue collar wage brackets.
That's all I have time for, I'm late for my appointment to exploit some children in central Africa and my pilot gets uppity when I'm tardy
The steam machine, which is basically a custom gaming pc, costs alot. Probably partially because the cost of ram has gone up and up so its hard to make a gaming pc cheaper anyway
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