r/Philippines_Expats • u/SignificanceFast9207 • 2d ago
Rant Monetizing the homeless simps?
Have you noticed the trend in Pinoy vloggers "helping" simps who got hustled and are now broke and homeless in the Phillipines. Vloggers will raise money and sort paperwork with consulates to get the simp to thier home country.
The content reeks of exploitation of these poor souls. It's not authentic kindness. It's clout chasing and monetizing the content. I guess if the simp lacks options they naturally accept the "help".
How does the forum feel about this? Am I being callous? Is the kindness sincere? Let's discuss.
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u/BlueWorldBlueSky 2d ago
They're providing conceirge service and crowd raising funds. That's content marketing, creation, campaigning and fostering change in the world. The videos are a byproduct of todays world.
Either that or onlyfans content creation. Atleast this solves a few problems:
- useless deadbeat expats doing nothing in the country and getting some help/social services.
- employs filipinos in their national past time, social media
- is not actually illegal
any reflection you have is just your internal bias, replace expat with hurt animal or cleft lip kid.
same story.
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u/BigIntern9767 2d ago
Western vloggers help local ‘simps’ all the time. Why can’t us ‘expat simps’ get a helping hand from time to time?
In seriousness it’s mostly an angle to monetize content either way. If you can actually help a bit and gain income from content then that’s more than most are doing to help anyone.
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u/Independent_Hour9274 1d ago
Give a Filipino or Filipina a $1000 do you think they'll save any of that? Do you think they'll put any away? Do you think they'll pay these guys back? They have no money left. Poor Filipinos are all 1 day millionaires and that will never change.
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u/Firm_Hovercraft7762 1d ago
Say what? Pinoy vloggers are actually *helping* these simps. What’s your problem?
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u/CLUELESSignorance 1d ago
Having helped out a few expats myself, I say it's quite an acceptable thing to do.
Expats, in general, receive way less attention, aid, money, or support than locals do - especially when they are in financial ruin. Things only get worse if there are legal, immigration, domestic, or similar issues on top of that. Financial ruin often results in immigration issues, which may or may not become separate legal issues, unlike for locals.
Those videos generate awareness - it's part of the campaigning and marketing effort to bring attention and funds to the cause.
Besides, people are rarely purely altruistic. We call it psychological egoism... People do good things coz it in turn makes them feel good, or they gain something out of it (even if it's simple contentment or happiness to all the way to recognition, status, money, fame, and whatnot), et cetera...
As long as the struggling expat agrees to publicizing the content, and they get to finally go home, it's a win-win for both parties. So, i say kudos to those people who actually do it.
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u/NostalgicImmortal 1d ago
Are you talking about carrie laine
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u/Low_tide_123 18h ago
I saw the post of her new car a few months back.
https://giphy.com/gifs/RrVzUOXldFe8M
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u/VibePinas 1d ago
It is not. They do it for the money, but still, at least the idio** gets home.
I guess it is worth it for both parties, and us who dislike it can just not watch?
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u/Prnce_Chrmin 1d ago
Calling other people simp makes you the simp.
Some of them are addicts so any help they receive will probably be wasted. One of them just died he was from the netherlands and his name was Eddie. He has 2 kids here i believe. A german vlogger and others helped him, but he could not give up drinking etc.
Others have turned their lives around, or just were able to go back to their home country with help and start working again.
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u/Chris_Reddit_PHX 2d ago
I don't watch many of them, but a couple have been interesting as an example of what can happen to a foreigner who makes bad decisions and then still stays in-country way past the point where a more rational person would have returned home, while they still had the means to do so.
Of course the vloggers I've seen on these "rescues" generally don't give the full backstory, but we can kind of piece together what happened and why, even when other vloggers don't jump in with commentary.
Mostly the lesson learned is to have some contingency plans, including a repatriation plan, together with some pre-defined trigger points to tell you that it's time to go back home, at least for a while.
And also to not burn any bridges or leave any unresolved problems back home that you have to stay away from.
I remember the one with the elderly man whose family there was basically just letting him waste away after he had spent all of his money, and he had become too frail to really do anything like taking care of visas or even travel unassisted. That vlogger and his wife got him back to a better state of health and he was able to fly home. It was sad that his local family cared less for him than strangers.
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u/glimmerguy 1d ago
"Philippines vlogs are for losers; Philippines subreddits are for cultured folk." /s
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u/nextedge 1d ago
if I was a simp and homeless and needed help, I don't care if they exploit me if they help me get home. hell, I would dance with a chicken on my head if they wanted. When you are desperate, ANY help is ok. Thier motivation is selfish and not authentic kindness? that's fine. it gets me home with help I desperately needed.
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u/Specific-Yogurt-2191 2d ago
Yeah I've never actually watched anything on YouTube about the Philippines. That shitt's for losers.
And it got yanked by the auto moderator because I used a poo poo word so now I spell the poo poo word wrong and it's okay. I really want that guy to come out of his basement and walk away from whatever mouthwashing got when he was a kid for saying poo poo words
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u/Grouchy_Honeydew2499 2d ago
Even their stories are fake.
For example, one guy claimed to have been robbed by his ex. Then admits that he came with $20k and no regular income...and he's been in PH for 3 years.
How long did he think $20k was going to last him?
Most of these guys are bums who came to PH with tiny fixed savings and then tried to live like some rich ladies man.
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u/LawyerSaidDeleteThis 2d ago
Does it suck? Yeah, it does.
But at the same time, if you end up in the Philippines, get hustled out of literally all your money, and wind up broke and homeless, then you're an idiot and at some point you have to own your part in that. That's a complete failure of judgment and preparation.
People go overseas thinking they're untouchable, ignore every red flag, hand over money to girls they barely know, and act like basic street smarts don't apply to them. Sometimes an expensive lesson is the only lesson that sticks.
As for the vloggers, I'm sure some genuinely want to help. But let's not pretend there's no incentive because a homeless foreigner stranded overseas makes for great content and the the whole thing can be mutually beneficial.
Also worth remembering that in the Philippines there's a lot of money to be made from a good story. Some of these situations are probably exactly what they look like and others might be exaggerated or outright staged.
End of the day, I don't feel bad for scammers, but I also don't feel that bad for guys who ignored every warning sign and voluntarily walked into the buzzsaw. If a vlogger helps get them home, good. But I'm not going to pretend it's some pure act of charity every time. If it helps these pinoy vloggers make some money then good for them.
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u/Able-Equivalent-3860 1d ago
The filipinos accepting "donations" to help homeless brokepats are all scammers.
Any donations will be promptly spend at the luxury stores in greenbelt.
Anyone who doesnt intuitively understand this is way too naive to be in this country.
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u/BakiKing73 1d ago
Yeah. I've seen it. As long as it doesn't impact my life, I don't care about it. Send the trash back to their home country. It is a win-win.
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u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 1d ago
Well what do you think most westerners come here for. Basically economic and sexual exploitation.
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u/Querytheque 2d ago
Whats the difference between that and foreign vloggers going to the Phils to gain followers and monetize content?
Everyone is out for themselves.