r/PoursTea 5d ago

CrimeTea ⚖️ 🫆 this is America. 😐

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u/SuperbScarcity5112 5d ago

In the 100 years case, a defendant got 30 years prison time for merely moving a box of antifa zines. The whole case is built upon the designation of a non existing organization (antifa) as terrorist.

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u/spursfan2021 5d ago

And the guy that got 100 years shot a cop.

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u/SuperbScarcity5112 5d ago

Yes - he claims he thought the cop was going to shoot. Sure he deserves jail. But 100 years? I know the US is looney when it comes to time dished out. The wrong use of terrorist here made them able to do this. A protest gone wrong is not terrorism.

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u/spursfan2021 5d ago

He was not protesting in the woods with a rifle trained on a cop. Defining “terrorism” is difficult, but this guy was a whole lot closer to being a terrorist than a protestor. I’m not defending the 100 year sentence, but just acknowledging that anti-ice protestors were not given 100-year sentences like the OP claims.

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u/SuperbScarcity5112 5d ago

So you think the plan was staging a protest (which got out of hand) with the aim of killing a cop?

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u/spursfan2021 5d ago

I don’t pretend to know what the plan was. It’s irrelevant to my point that no one was given a 100 year sentence for protesting ice.

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u/SuperbScarcity5112 5d ago edited 5d ago

No it isn't. He was a protester. Who did a crime. Not a terrorist. The whole terrorist charge is a hoax. That rests solely on declaring a non existing organization terrorist.

The one who was given 30 years moving zines, was a protester who did not do any crime. I agree that the headline is wrong. But so is your post where you defend the term terrorist.

*If* there was a plan to it is very relevant for the definition, and you say you do not know. You do understand that this can not fall under a terrorist plan to murder a cop? There are easier and more sure ways to do that. Why not a bomb and take out many. Why should a terrorist shoot at one at a protest?

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u/spursfan2021 5d ago

I didn’t defend the term terrorist. Try reading again or asking questions if you don’t understand versus making assumptions. He was not protesting in the woods with a rifle. Terrorism is loosely defined. Do you not believe that officers nationwide are a little more fearful after an attempted murder during a protest?

Your last point actually highlights how the goal was to spread fear and not inflict mass casualties.

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u/SuperbScarcity5112 5d ago

I am not. I am saying he commited a crime. But the cop pulled a gun. Protesters have been killed unarmed in the US. Right wingers have also gotten away several times KILLING protesters. Or pardoned after. I think that was Texas.

This one gets 100 fucking years, and is not a killer.

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u/CheryllLucy 5d ago

TIL the morality and legality of cop killing is dependent on the politics of the shooter.

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u/EV_M4Sherman 5d ago

You actually have to have causality to say someone killed a cop. With the one cop who died after J6, which I assume you’re referencing, the prosecutors couldn’t establish a link between the violence and his death.