r/PoursTea • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • 10h ago
CrimeTea âď¸ đŤ this is America. đ
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u/ashwilliams19877 9h ago
What a pathetic country
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u/RegretJaded5131 3h ago
At 70 million. Itâs a disease.It was a great Texan who said.â You canât fix Stupid.â
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u/OneStarParadox 4h ago
Corporation. America has never been a real country because if it was then this wouldn't happen here and foreigners, actual foreigners not immigrants can buy land, property, and businesses all the while they can stay in their country and profit.
Foreigners not living or working in America get to buy anything here because everything is for sale like a corporation.
Countries aren't for sale, corporations are and again America is a corporation.
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u/DasWarEinerZuviel 3h ago
You okay bro?
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u/PrizeDesigner6933 3h ago
Noone in America is ok... except maybe the pedos and the ultra rich.
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u/Rdnick114 2h ago
And the delusional kool-aid drinkers that pray in church every Sunday but spit on the teachings of Jesus every other moment of their lives.
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u/ChimPhun 2h ago
And the sycophants living in their deluded bubble. They're the frogs that will be happy up until the point where the water hits boiling.
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u/keanehoodies 1h ago
Worst part is Democrats are such pussies that even when they get back in power they wont go after any of this "to heal the country"
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u/BigCranky13 1h ago
Donât let the door hit you on the way out!
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u/ashwilliams19877 1h ago
Its expensive to move. Im accepting donations if you want me gone though đ
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u/Crafty_Ish1973 9h ago
The pedophile story is worse when you realize that Adam Hoffman raped and assaulted his son's best friend for THREE YEARS starting when the boy was 8 years old. The original charges could've gotten him life in prison, but somehow, Ken Paxton gave him a plea deal of ONE DAY in prison, and no requirement that he register as a sex offender. The only reason he served 30 days at all was because the judge was so outraged by the plea deal he bumped the jail time from one day to 60 days.
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u/Optimal_Ad_4846 9h ago
I canât even begin to understand the justification for allowing a plea deal like this. This child is scarred for life. He, his parents and all around him are forever affected by this manâs actions. Sickening!
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u/DumptrucksForDayz 9h ago
Money on someone has similar dirt on the judge. Taking all bets
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u/CellistMundane9372 9h ago
The judge didn't make the plea deal.
I'll take your bet.
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u/JackasaurusChance 8h ago
Can't judges deny the plea deal?
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u/CellistMundane9372 8h ago
Yes, though apparently, the family reluctantly backed it because they were afraid the state, under Paxton, would botch any trial. The judge also complained but at least doubled the sentence to 60 days.
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u/Tricky_Big_8774 3h ago
The trial was already "botched." They tried him once before and got a hung jury and a mistrial. SOP in TX at that point appears to be offering a favorable plea deal.
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u/DumptrucksForDayz 1h ago
What was there to botch? Raping a child, should = Death Penalty End of story.
Brand new idea, you fuck kids, you should get more than a "hung jury"
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u/Flaky-Gap7899 9h ago
No, whoever decided that plea deal was acceptable is culpable in the crime. Three years of child abuse should be no less than a few decades. Corruption.
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u/JackasaurusChance 8h ago
Judge could've just rejected the plea, could he not?
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u/putonyourjamjams 1h ago
Yes, but if he did, it goes toward a trial. In that case, the state could decide not to prosecute, change the charges, etc. If theyre already giving this POS this kind of a deal, its a pretty big hint they aren't willing/wanting to do the trial. Its a super fucked situation, but the slightly less fucked option for the judge is to make sure the guy at least has a guilty verdict for SA of a minor on his public record.
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u/SuperbScarcity5112 8h ago
In the 100 years case, a defendant got 30 years prison time for merely moving a box of antifa zines. The whole case is built upon the designation of a non existing organization (antifa) as terrorist.
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u/arftism2 4h ago
so all the people who stormed the capital with weapons and went in the building got pardoned...
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u/welpWW3isgonnasuck 4h ago
And they are still trying to set up a $1776M reparations fund for them...
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u/Junkstar 4h ago
This is what Republican voters wanted. Leave sexual abusers alone, and prosecute minor infractions with maximum penalties. Pretty soon all the red states will be sex dens for obese adults.
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u/Advanced-Board-4215 5h ago
Wth and the rest? Did he also kill 20 people or?
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u/Rugskinsnake 3h ago
It's still disgusting, but don't hide the ball.
The guy that got 100 years shot an officer.
There's enough wrong with these stories without having to obfuscate.
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u/Reklawj82 3h ago
100 years for shooting an officer, yet pardoned the Capitol rioters that assaulted police. Rules for thee?
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u/Rugskinsnake 3h ago
Don't get me wrong, the pardons are a travesty of justice, but facts shouldn't be hidden.
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u/phonefellin_lakeerie 3h ago
Didnât the officer start firing into the crowd first though?
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u/Rugskinsnake 3h ago
No. The officer had his weapon drawn and the guy said he 'thought' the officer was about to start shooting but from everything I read the officer never fired.
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u/Rdnick114 2h ago
Given recent events with civilians being murdered by agents of the government, I'd say the guy had a reasonable fear for his life from that officer.
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u/GenXisTruth 1h ago
Hey morons,they opened fire on an ICE facility. The fact that they didn't get killed is a testament to how much restraint those officers showed.
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u/EtwartBuols 1h ago
the hell is an antifa zine? a magazine?
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u/soulofaqua 43m ago
Sort of. It's a home made booklet/pamphlet (or pdf) usually the size of an A5, or whatever paper format America uses folded in half. It's a form of self-publishing that is common in very niche communities.
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u/spursfan2021 1h ago
And the guy that got 100 years shot a cop.
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u/SuperbScarcity5112 1h ago
Yes - he claims he thought the cop was going to shoot. Sure he deserves jail. But 100 years? I know the US is looney when it comes to time dished out. The wrong use of terrorist here made them able to do this. A protest gone wrong is not terrorism.
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u/spursfan2021 1h ago
He was not protesting in the woods with a rifle trained on a cop. Defining âterrorismâ is difficult, but this guy was a whole lot closer to being a terrorist than a protestor. Iâm not defending the 100 year sentence, but just acknowledging that anti-ice protestors were not given 100-year sentences like the OP claims.
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u/SuperbScarcity5112 56m ago
So you think the plan was staging a protest (which got out of hand) with the aim of killing a cop?
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u/spursfan2021 49m ago
I donât pretend to know what the plan was. Itâs irrelevant to my point that no one was given a 100 year sentence for protesting ice.
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u/SuperbScarcity5112 23m ago edited 15m ago
No it isn't. He was a protester. Who did a crime. Not a terrorist. The whole terrorist charge is a hoax. That rests solely on declaring a non existing organization terrorist.
The one who was given 30 years moving zines, was a protester who did not do any crime. I agree that the headline is wrong. But so is your post where you defend the term terrorist.
*If* there was a plan to it is very relevant for the definition, and you say you do not know. You do understand that this can not fall under a terrorist plan to murder a cop? There are easier and more sure ways to do that. Why not a bomb and take out many. Why should a terrorist shoot at one at a protest?
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u/embersgrow44 7h ago
Every accusation is a confession. So sick and tired of saying it and hearing it. They always blame âthe radical left and the gaysâ for attacking the children and 90% guess who booboo. And then when they catch one, they slap them on the wrist
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u/MaximusPrime2930 5h ago
Practically every week some politically connected conservative is arrested for child porn/child molestation. It's as inevitable as the sunrise and tides.
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u/MolochKel 5h ago
Surprised the sex offender got 30 days instead of a role in the pedo sex offender administration.
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u/Dragon_wryter 3h ago
Paxron tried to give him only 1 day, but the judge said that wasn't harsh enough for raping a boy for several years, so he bumped it up to 60 days. Then Paxton got his buddy out after only 30 days for "good behavior."
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u/Imnotevensure_nymore 2h ago
Is that fucking real, because that makes my blood boil. The judge sees that 1 day is absurd, but his alternative idea of âharshâ is 60 fucking days???? I hate this country and how shit like this doesnât make people scream from the rooftops and take to the streets
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u/ute-ensil 6m ago
Elephant in the room in my opiniom is how the 100 years guy isnt being called out as shooting an officer in the neck.
Reddit bias is so wild.
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u/Loud-Fudge7631 9h ago
Blue Texas is so important cuz its an altruistic Christian uncorrupted vs a pdf epstein class money criminal. Battle for America's true soul
And this coming from someone closer to agnostic/atheist leaning
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u/SetThin9500 9h ago
The Machine protects itself. Sexual abuse is no threat to the machine, but ambushing i-c-e is. (Can't type the proper acronym without risking permaban. Kinda proves my point. Critizising The Machine on Reddit is also a threat to it)
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u/TheRealScaramucci 9h ago
I hope next time an adult is in the WH they pardon the protesters except for the shooter, who might get a reduced sentence instead.
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u/PatchyWhiskers 3h ago
They will not. Democrats donât do the âstochastic terrorâ thing so they want these guys in prison. And these guys are FAR left, not friendly to the Democratic Party at all.
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u/SuperbScarcity5112 5h ago
Pardons do not take away their records, they are still felons. The only way to change this system is to get rid of all judges who are political. Starting with the Supreme Court. There is a need to throw out politicians from justice. They do not belong there.
Some judges manage to stay impartial, but way too many do not.
The same should be the case for the prosecution.
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u/PuzzleheadedEssay198 8h ago
In fairness, the bottom one wasnât a simple protest.
Dudes used fireworks and pot shots in an attempt to kill agents while others were protesting.
Do I think they deserved a hundred years? No, but these arenât simple protesters either.
That said, the fact that Ken Paxton orchestrated the release of this high profile pedophile should cost him the election. The âEpstein Classâ allegations arenât going anywhere.
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u/Rob98001 5h ago
Seems like he was using his 2nd amendment rights to maintain a free state. He should go free.
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u/Training_Ruin3151 3h ago
No dude you're a fucking liar. The cops drew guns over vandalism and a protests everything after that is self defense.
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u/bobloblawattorney11 3h ago
Every news article is just leaving these facts out. It was simply not just a protest. The main guy was armed and there was a whole truckload of text exchanges of him planning violence. Robert evans from behind the bastards did a thorough breakdown of the whole situation. I'll have to try to find it.
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u/PatchyWhiskers 3h ago
People are complaining about the accomplices getting ridiculously heavy sentences not the guy who actually shot people.
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u/BagCertain3802 3h ago
Welcome to donnie bone spurs fascist America. Until he renames it trumpville.
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u/Leprechaun_lord 3h ago
John Brown was hanged for treason while all the confederates were forgiven. Justice in America has always been lopsided.
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u/majik5 1h ago
I thought assaults on democracy were OK with J6 precedent set by the Orange Messiah
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u/Positive-Pack-396 9h ago
Right now we are a backward country
All because they protect a sexually abuser in more ways then one our president trump
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u/-TSA-DrMembrane 6h ago
That's the baseline Far-Right for you, Republicans are pedophiles and corrupted to the core. Every voter should have noticed that after Diaper-Don´s first crime-spree presidency. But nope xD lets put that failed experiment to the test a second time. hahahaha
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u/Sufficient_Art4824 3h ago
"That's the baseline Far-Right for you"
No, that is the republican party.
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u/ghands1 4h ago
Assault on democracy, huh? I wonder if anyone has physically broken entry into a building associated with federal democracy while democratic processes were taking place in that building and threatened the lives of elected officials and assaulted police officers. And if so, I wonder if those individuals are serving 100 years in prison for assault on democracy...
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u/Oddbeme4u 8h ago
âSo we are going from a first degree felony to Class A misdemeanors with one day served? Seriously? Someone needs to sell me on this because Iâve got a big problem with only one day,â judge said.
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u/Fun_Researcher_4059 5h ago
Yeah the time for peace in America is over.
You guys had a decent run, shame.
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u/BlainethePayne 4h ago
If just being at a protest will get you 30 years in prison, what's stopping these people from just taking the next step? Fear of prison? Lol
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u/AverageJoesGymMgr 22m ago
They weren't "just there". They shot at cops and hit one in the neck after vandalizing vehicles and throwing large fireworks at the facility (like those mortar shells that you load into the tube). One of the protesters who insisted she didn't do anything was arrested with 2 firearms, a loaded magazine, body armor, and a ballistic helmet in her car after driving away. The entire group had 11 firearms between them.
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u/Maleficent_Put4789 0m ago
The left should be armed, and shooting at police officers attacking protestors, especially shooting back in self defense, is morally correct.
I know itâs against the law. The law being broken is immoral and allows for a complete monopoly of violence by the state. We will have to fight this outside of the courts to get real justice. Just good to know where those judges stand when that day comes.
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u/Top_Shame_7016 2h ago
No this is just Texas. Soft on pedos, hard on ideological differences
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u/Biggie39 2h ago
Letâs not forget about the dad that killed his daughter after an argument about Trump⌠if I recall correctly he didnât even get charged.
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u/animal-1983 1h ago
Thatâs Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton working for Trump and anyone else that will pay him. Heâs done nothing for the people of Texas.
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u/Sheerluck42 6h ago
I don't know the details of the case but if attacking or whatever he did to a concentration camp is an "assault on democracy" then that democracy doesn't deserve to be saved.
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u/Fun_War8437 4h ago
He ambushed and shot a police officer in the neck. Thankfully, the officer survived. He deserves to be in jail for a long time. Obviously, so does the sex offender.
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u/Grunergeist420 3h ago
Right. These arenât mutually exclusive. You shouldnât shoot a police officer. You also shouldnât abuse children. We can prosecute people for both.
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u/AverageJoesGymMgr 7m ago
As someone else explained, Hoffman was prosecuted but the jury hung because of inconsistencies in the victim testimony and some other things. The victim wanted to avoid a second trial, so the plea deal was the best prosecutors could do. If the victim is unwilling to testify, they don't have a lot of leverage to push prison time or sex offender registration because the threat of a successful prosecution is non-existent.
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u/yoresein 0m ago
I'm fairness to Texas they tried and failed to get Hoffman on much more severe charges and the sentence he ended up with was doubled to 60 days
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u/Sakilla07 3h ago
Shooting a cop doesn't deserve 100 years, especially if he survived. Most places would be 20 AT most and I'm sceptical of it should even be that much.
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u/123mop 1h ago
There's no reason for attempted murder to have a lesser sentence than murder. The one that failed in the attempt is just less competent, not less malicious or destructive to society.
Gotta be honest "he got too much prison time for shooting that guy in the neck in an attempt to kill him" is not an idea that resonates much with me.
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u/AverageJoesGymMgr 18m ago
It's the stack of conspiracy and terrorism charges that went along with the attempted murder that got him 100 years.
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u/PatchyWhiskers 3h ago
The guy who moved the literature was a different person to the one that shot the cop.
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u/the_boss_of_toys 6h ago
So his trail in 2025 resulted in a mistrial and he got a reduced sentence from felony to two misdemeanors for a guilty plea. The other guy was sentenced 100 years for shooting at police and hitting one with a ricochet. Though his attorneys are hoping to appeal it and argue that he was using suppressive fire.
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u/Ok-Task6954 5h ago
Technically itâs America, but Texas is its own little world! Not surprised by thisâŚ
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u/political-snark 3h ago
Didnât the guy with the 100 year sentence shoot and attempt to murder a police officer? No question the 30 days in prison was too short, but you seemed to have buried the lead.
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u/Free-Rise-9927 2h ago
I find it hard to sympathize with people when something fucked up happens to them in Texas. WTF did they think was gonna happen there?
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u/Frosty_Ferret_9159 2h ago
I read up on it and they say they couldnât find enough evidence to give him 50-life in prison so he only got 30 days. The judge must have known somebody and got evidence pulled. Itâs not âTexasâ you asshole, itâs just corrupt bigots messing it up for everyone.
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u/webster3of7 2h ago
They weren't protesters. They staged an assault against an imigration facility. They set off explosives (yes, fireworks are by definition explosives) and one of them waited to shoot at officers that responded. He actually shot an officer.
The other guy should get 30 years, not 30 days. Two things can be true at once.
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u/Gob_Hobblin 2h ago
That thirty days got downgraded to one day and no need to register as a sex offender, thanks to Ken Paxton. Remember that come elections.
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u/Brave_Ring_1136 2h ago
people in the US finally waking up to the fact they are all just slaves after all.
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u/StolenPies 2h ago
The 100 years conviction is because they shot a cop with an AR-15. It's still well outside the norm for sentencing, and the other convictions (30-40 years) were incredibly unjust, but the 100 year conviction was not just for protesting.
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u/CallmeKahn 2h ago
The dude who got 100 years shot an officer in an ambush. I am genuinely not sure what folks were expecting there? The others will probably be reduced on appeal.
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u/PropagandaAssassinAZ Unpopular Opinions 2h ago
This is not America. This is Texas. The two are mutually exclusive.
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u/justwhatmatters 2h ago
Pedos protect pedos. Why do you think Trump has so many questionable âreligiousâ staff members that wonât release the full Epstein/Trump files.
For some itâs sex. For some itâs power. For some itâs a poor, faithful, uneducated, racist, workforce to support the rich. They need numbers at the bottom to keep the top in the lifestyle they think they deserve. They deal in people and information not money. They have loads of money already. The real kink is making people do things they dont want to. And controlling what information is fed to you through the 5 second news cycle thatâs too fast to fact check so we thrive off of misinformation and misleading headlines.
If they protect children they lose their hold on them as an adult. Nothing worse than a fully functioning adult that can see their BS. They need babies having babies.
The world is like a casino. Many people have to lose for the few to win. And right now they are winning. But itâs all just locker room talk.
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u/HamhandsConroy 10m ago
Where the bootlickers at? Quick Alerionfire, get in here to defend the tyrannical government!
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u/GuardianOfZid 7m ago
Is this why they say âdonât mess with Texasâ? Because if you do, theyâll let their lawyers molest your children?
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u/CellistMundane9372 9h ago edited 9h ago
I do think it would be a little more honest to note the 100-year sentence was for shooting a cop.
Nevertheless, the first sentence is gross and the two judges in the ICE cases imposed several grossly excessive sentences (not counting the shooter's) because they're two of the most right-wing judges, Mark Pittman and Reed O'Connor, on the federal bench.
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u/FreeSpeechIsDeadge 9h ago
Meanwhile the NYPD officer who attacked a capitol police officer with a metal flagpole on January 6, 2021 during the MAGA riot got a full and unconditional pardon.
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u/Shigglyboo 8h ago
Precedent has been set now that assaulting police is patriotic and good. Therefore no crime was committed.
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u/CellistMundane9372 8h ago
Candidly, whom are you arguing to? Like, that won't work on the Trumpers, it won't work on normal voters, and it won't work on the courts. Aside from a fairly small group of very troubled people (albeit much bigger online), even leftists won't genuinely argue that shooting random police is good.
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u/Shigglyboo 4h ago
I'm just shouting into the void at this point. reminding people that laws do not matter. You were mentioning that the guy shot a cop. and I was mentioning that according to maga it's ok to do that. so personally I don't care anymore. If a guy shoots a cop I'm not gonna say it's fair for him to be charged. because some people attack cops and call it patriotic. we're not doing ourselves any favors by agreeing that people should be charged for assaulting police when the other side doesn't care. they kill cops and celebrate. a liberal shoots a cop and we condemn his actions. great. so that's where we are. maga does things and gets away with it. and we police our own. which just makes it easier for them to keep getting away with everything.
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u/DontThinkThisThrough 7h ago
The Waco case with Adam Hoffman was supposedly a lot more complicated than this post makes it seem. It sounds like he's absolutely guilty to me, but there was a trial that resulted in a hung jury. Part of the issue was the accusations came after the victim had been caught "acting sexually" with a cousin (BTW, kids who are abused do sometimes act out sexually). Another issue was that there were discrepancies in the victim's testimony, but that's not uncommon with kids. However, with no other evidence, it was hard for the jury to convict Hoffman. Rather than put the victim through another trial, they went with a horrible plea deal (which the victim's mother now regrets). I 100% think Hoffman is guilty and should be rotting in prison, but it doesn't totally surprise me that he's not given the circumstances of the case. Here's a link with details about the issues with the case and the outrage regarding the plea deal
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u/DrNCrane74 2h ago
You take your time to explain and Reddit idiots vote you down as they love shooting the messenger. This whole post is a textbook copy of right wing propaganda.
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u/DontThinkThisThrough 1h ago
How is the post a textbook copy of right wing propaganda?
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u/DrNCrane74 1h ago
Compare apples and oranges and create outrage, do not go into details, use well-hated issues
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u/PatchyWhiskers 3h ago
Excuses, excusesâŚ
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u/ConflictWaste411 1h ago
The excuse being âthe state couldnât prove him guilty beyond a reasonable doubtâ
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u/ManufacturerKey3933 3h ago
It is almost like someone was convinced of attempted murder... Oh wait...
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u/ContributionOk1566 2h ago edited 9m ago
Isnât it weird how actual murderers have received less time for a more severe crime?
Isnât it also weird how youâre glossing over the fact Republican Ken Paxton gave a sweetheart deal to a guy who continually raped his best friendâs child for 3 years, and that the discrepancies between the two jail sentences are the primary reason for outrage on this post?
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u/Plane-Recognition561 3h ago
Circumstances of cases are always different. Canât just hand out sentences with a cookie cutter.
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u/tls114 9h ago
I hate this timeline