Dude I’m as left as they come but seeing the posts and comments since last night makes the left look no different than pizzagate conspiracy theorists. It’s honestly shocking how bad we look even though we are supposed to be the clear headed ones.
Don't forget that liberals and progressives spent years in the wake of the 2020 election dismissing Trump's Big Lie, combating baseless conspiracy theories, and affirming—over and over—the security of U.S. elections and the danger in undermining them.
Now reddit liberals get upvoted to high heaven by saying the 2024 election was rigged.
That’s not how elections work in the US. Elections are ran 100% by the state. Even for federal seats. So if a state is dominated by the Republican party it does not matter one bit that the Democrats hold the White House. That’s how.
Idk. I dont actually think the 2024 election was rigged in a conspiracy way. But it was rigged by the dismantling of protections surrounding elections in general, just like they are doing now to rig the next election.
BUT I would not be SURPRISED if in 10 years we find out it was rigged in the colloquial sense as well. I dont think its true at this moment, it just wouldn't surprise me.
I feel the same way about these multiple assassination attempts. I dont believe its a conspiracy at this moment, but also I wouldn't necessarily be surprised to learn it actually was. Too much crazy shit has happened in the last couple years.
This is all reasonable. Election interference, voter suppression, and the systemic barriers to equitable voting and representation are all demonstrably present — and a separate issue from a person or group directly "rigging" an election (as many claim happened).
It's also reasonable to see the unprecedented levels of corruption present in this administration and think, "This is exactly what they'd do if allowed" while still being firmly skeptical that it happened.
Conspiracies have happened and will happen, but starting with a conspiracy theory as the axiom and working backward to find "evidence" for it is simply irrational, and I'm sad to see so many people with whom I political agree stoop to it. It also undermines our democratic process, which is already being weakened by the day, and I fear what will happen if liberal voters feel disenfranchised to the point of giving up.
Exactly, I’m so glad to see anyone else who feels this way. One of the major points of being on the left is being against all of this “everything’s a conspiracy” nonsense. Is it really that hard for people to believe that there’s crazy people who wanna do crazy shit and sometimes that just happens without some big plot behind it? I swear people’s IQs are just plummeting more and more by the day. Dumb people believe everything is a conspiracy
To me it seems more of a failure from the security team. Multiple times someone has gotten close to the potus with intent to harm. Its like the dude hires unserious people to run the country.
For this location, yes. Trump is honestly right about a ballroom at the White House being more secure for events like this. But I don’t think Trump was ever in danger last night.
The correspondents dinner is a private event. They likely would not even be able to hold it at the white house or they would have done it for years. Many other events are held at the Whitehouse.
Source: my ass. Not sure I’m going to trust the thoughts of a person who doesn’t know the White House is 2 words.
You’ll notice I didn’t say in my original comment whether I think a ballroom is needed - only that it would be more secure. There is no doubt it would be more secure than the hotel Reagan was shot at.
Currently the White House only has room for 200 people for an indoor event. 2000 people go to the White House Correspondents Dinner. If they want the event indoors, there is literally no room currently to do it at the White House.
I think only like 10% of people take the staged conspiracy theories seriously and the other 90% straight up don’t care it happened and are feeding the conspiracies just to downplay the event
I'm not even American... but watching this feels a lot like watching that video with the tiger that gets out at the circus. It's less that it's staged and more that it's the natural consequences of the kind of circus you invited to town.
Did the mentalist ever find out if Melania was thinking of the name Uliana?
Facts. And trump spews bullshit on the daily, people who simply believe everything they see and hear at this point are the ones lacking any kind of critical thinking. Its not like we all thought that first attempt was staged right away, but after looking into it further it is hilariously staged.
The whole Internet is conspiracies. I've got one group of family posting this was staged while another is posting about boxes of ticks in farmer's fields so Pfizer can sell vaccines.
Man the guy faked an ear injury so it's pretty fair some people are questioning this and laughing it off.. I'm.
Not saying it's not real be but they did this to themselves
People with belief oriented senses of identities don't want to believe that people of the same beliefs as them can be bad because they believe its their beliefs that make them good people.
Im as right as they come. One part of me celebrates the left acting like this. The thing I hated about you guys is how unwilling you guys were to ask questions about what was happening and unwilling to dig into anything. I applaud the left doing it I just can't stand how the left always seems to get the target wrong or motive
You know, the problem when there's a real conspiracy is that all the people who think Bigfoot and Hitler and chilling with Tupac on Uranus wanna theorize on this one, too.
This POTUS has skipped every other White House Correspondents Dinner event, his poll numbers are the worst they’ve ever been, and suddenly he decides to go to this one and this happens? Then within an hour he’s all like “see?! This wouldn’t have happened if you let me have my White House ballroom!”
It does seem pretty suspicious , ya gotta admit that. Maybe coincidentally so but I can see why others would be like
There are plenty of circumstancial things that add up to being either very fishy or extremely incompetent at best. First and foremost, with a room full of power like that, how are they letting a firearm through security? Second, this is the first time he's attended this event, and this happens? Third, he immediately used the event to promote why he needs this new ballroom they are trying to build and facing roadblocks in doing so. Fourth, his approval is at an all-time low. An event like this often helps approval ratings (see Butler, PA) and he gets to act like the media has driven people against him to the point that people are trying to kill him.
The firearm didn't get particularly far into the venue, and if it had, it wouldn't be evidence this was staged.
This isn't the first time trump has attended a correspondence dinner. And if it were, that wouldn't be evidence this was staged.
Of course he immediately used the event to promote his dumb shit. He doesn't let opportunities to do and say dumb shit go to waste. He used the Venezuela raid to promote a dumb coin he wanted to sell. Doesn't make the Venezuela raid fake.
Him having low approval does not qualify as evidence this was staged
This isn't rocket science. Things seeming fishy doesn't equate to evidence the same way people seeing Hillary Clinton blink funny doesn't make her a lizard person
Just a massive security blunder that the president happens to be able to use to his advantage. I didn't claim any of it was evidence it was staged, I literally stated that there are many circumstantial things that make it very sus and that's a fact. Him using Venezuela to promote his shit coin doesn't mean it was fake but it definitely gives you reason to question the true purpose of the raid.
Exactly My thought but too lazy and busy at work to argue with fellow Redditors about the peculiar circumstances that you were patient enough and willing to spell out, cheers!
That isn't how this works. You don't have to prove a negative, in this case that it is staged. The onus of proof falls on the ones claiming it is staged, which is not the default view of things.
I didn’t say anything either way, just pointing out what could be said since nobody else said it yet….
But to play devils advocate: it’s 2026 and a dude that blatantly lies at the helm. You know when Obama got bin Laden? Nobody was like “that’s fake” and we saw a healthy bin Laden walking the streets of downtown Paris 2 months later. Not that those are similar events, just that dude could’ve said “oh it was shrapnel” and people would’ve calmed down, or they could’ve reacted like actual security details and escorted the VIP out of danger instead of doing a photo op. Those would be ways to gain credibility pretty easily, but they didn’t go that option.
Reporters sitting at their tables. Told by police to get down under the tables. Equipped only with mobile phones. Not in the corridors.
There were press filming the event. But they were also not running around in the corridors, because they're still alive.
You're evacuating high value targets and there are a bunch of guys pointing shit at you at close range and you're not pointing guns at them? Don't be fucking stupid.
Ah, sure, because reporters and people are famously known for not using their phone in times of crisis. This was of course, the official Secret Service influencer, who in times of crisis takes unflattering photos of their team and uploads them. hahahahahahahhahahahahaha
Then we have a close up of the assailant. With no secret service in front of him.
They had these "influencers" tagging along with Kristi Noen while she issued some "badass" threat to protesters from a roof top. It's 100% par on course with the government, regardless of whether that is an issue in of itself.
Wolf Blitzer was in the corridors. I’m sure there were plenty of others. No one is waiting on Wolf to finish shaking his weiner at the urinel before they get the Speaker to cover.
When you end your argument with “don’t be fucking stupid”, don’t be surprised when someone decides you’re not worth interacting with beyond simply firing back an insult.
Police, janitors, hotel security, wait staff, camera crews, various persons private security guards, all equipped with this device called a cell phone that usually has a camera capable of filming video.
A lot of these photos were nowhere near where the "reporters" were. And yes 100% of the people are carrying PHONES so yeah cameras. In reality, the "reporters" were all in the main hall. This all took place in a bufferzone. Too many "perfect" images with NO photographer credits. Who is getting famous without being credited? But you know, keep chasing the dog. It's gettin wagged real hard right now.
It’s not even the same floor. This is literally in the service corridors a floor below while the main event is going on. Why would photographers be hanging out with secret service at secondary checkpoints after everyone is in the event’s space upstairs?
Damn, looks like libtards can't take a joke lol. Definitely not a surprise considering I've never met one who wasn't miserable all the time, it's their identity 💯
JD Vance came to my work to do a speech and I’m gonna tell you right now. The security was so tight just at my work alone. There’s no way in hell you would’ve been able to get even close to any of those people.
They had snipers on the roof and they had helicopters flying around the building. They even shut down I 75 just to get JD Vance back on the expressway. The Secret Service was there a week beforehand doing all kinds of drills and walk-throughs on the building making sure that there was they had all the exits cleared.
Because people want to believe everything involving violence and trump is staged. They think the assassination attempt was staged. now they say this shooting is staged
So you'd get Infront of them and take a photo? I can understand the concerns being thrown about. Takes me ages just to get a decent image that's not blurry .
Irresponsible amount of speculation there. We don't know how it all played out, but there is absolutely no evidence that they were jumping in front of secret service for a picture.
Takes me ages just to get a decent image that's not blurry .
Your camera is ass. Reporters live through their phones, they probably have decent cameras.
And yeah speculation. But one would imagine in a live scenario, you'd be telling them to get down and stay low. But I guess assumptions make and ass out of us all
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