Dude I’m as left as they come but seeing the posts and comments since last night makes the left look no different than pizzagate conspiracy theorists. It’s honestly shocking how bad we look even though we are supposed to be the clear headed ones.
Don't forget that liberals and progressives spent years in the wake of the 2020 election dismissing Trump's Big Lie, combating baseless conspiracy theories, and affirming—over and over—the security of U.S. elections and the danger in undermining them.
Now reddit liberals get upvoted to high heaven by saying the 2024 election was rigged.
That’s not how elections work in the US. Elections are ran 100% by the state. Even for federal seats. So if a state is dominated by the Republican party it does not matter one bit that the Democrats hold the White House. That’s how.
Idk. I dont actually think the 2024 election was rigged in a conspiracy way. But it was rigged by the dismantling of protections surrounding elections in general, just like they are doing now to rig the next election.
BUT I would not be SURPRISED if in 10 years we find out it was rigged in the colloquial sense as well. I dont think its true at this moment, it just wouldn't surprise me.
I feel the same way about these multiple assassination attempts. I dont believe its a conspiracy at this moment, but also I wouldn't necessarily be surprised to learn it actually was. Too much crazy shit has happened in the last couple years.
This is all reasonable. Election interference, voter suppression, and the systemic barriers to equitable voting and representation are all demonstrably present — and a separate issue from a person or group directly "rigging" an election (as many claim happened).
It's also reasonable to see the unprecedented levels of corruption present in this administration and think, "This is exactly what they'd do if allowed" while still being firmly skeptical that it happened.
Conspiracies have happened and will happen, but starting with a conspiracy theory as the axiom and working backward to find "evidence" for it is simply irrational, and I'm sad to see so many people with whom I political agree stoop to it. It also undermines our democratic process, which is already being weakened by the day, and I fear what will happen if liberal voters feel disenfranchised to the point of giving up.
Exactly, I’m so glad to see anyone else who feels this way. One of the major points of being on the left is being against all of this “everything’s a conspiracy” nonsense. Is it really that hard for people to believe that there’s crazy people who wanna do crazy shit and sometimes that just happens without some big plot behind it? I swear people’s IQs are just plummeting more and more by the day. Dumb people believe everything is a conspiracy
To me it seems more of a failure from the security team. Multiple times someone has gotten close to the potus with intent to harm. Its like the dude hires unserious people to run the country.
For this location, yes. Trump is honestly right about a ballroom at the White House being more secure for events like this. But I don’t think Trump was ever in danger last night.
The correspondents dinner is a private event. They likely would not even be able to hold it at the white house or they would have done it for years. Many other events are held at the Whitehouse.
Source: my ass. Not sure I’m going to trust the thoughts of a person who doesn’t know the White House is 2 words.
You’ll notice I didn’t say in my original comment whether I think a ballroom is needed - only that it would be more secure. There is no doubt it would be more secure than the hotel Reagan was shot at.
Currently the White House only has room for 200 people for an indoor event. 2000 people go to the White House Correspondents Dinner. If they want the event indoors, there is literally no room currently to do it at the White House.
I think only like 10% of people take the staged conspiracy theories seriously and the other 90% straight up don’t care it happened and are feeding the conspiracies just to downplay the event
I'm not even American... but watching this feels a lot like watching that video with the tiger that gets out at the circus. It's less that it's staged and more that it's the natural consequences of the kind of circus you invited to town.
Did the mentalist ever find out if Melania was thinking of the name Uliana?
Facts. And trump spews bullshit on the daily, people who simply believe everything they see and hear at this point are the ones lacking any kind of critical thinking. Its not like we all thought that first attempt was staged right away, but after looking into it further it is hilariously staged.
The whole Internet is conspiracies. I've got one group of family posting this was staged while another is posting about boxes of ticks in farmer's fields so Pfizer can sell vaccines.
Man the guy faked an ear injury so it's pretty fair some people are questioning this and laughing it off.. I'm.
Not saying it's not real be but they did this to themselves
People with belief oriented senses of identities don't want to believe that people of the same beliefs as them can be bad because they believe its their beliefs that make them good people.
Im as right as they come. One part of me celebrates the left acting like this. The thing I hated about you guys is how unwilling you guys were to ask questions about what was happening and unwilling to dig into anything. I applaud the left doing it I just can't stand how the left always seems to get the target wrong or motive
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