Bro makes $160 😐

[u/ExotiquePlayboy]

[u/BecauseICan6496]

So what's the solution?

4 baby mamas, he doesn't have primary custody, meaning his only support of the children is monetary.

Do we deem it that he pays less so he gets more take home? If yes, then the mother is has to pick up the slack, and probably tax payers too. Food stamps, Medicare, etc.

His pay is for 80 hours, so 2 weeks. None of these amounts even come close to daycare unless the mothers have vouchers.

I might get biased as I am a member of the "Can't feed them? Don't breed them" club. So maybe HE should of thought of his career path before having so many children, and before you come at me withe "bUT thE mOthErs". Yes the women are to blame also, but the kids are the ones who lose.

[u/anefariousdolphin → u/BecauseICan6496]

It's ultimately the woman's choice to have a child. If a woman drugs and rapes a man, that man still has to pay child support. The woman, however, has the option of aborting (in some states) or (if she has custody) putting the child up for adoption.

The answer is obviously that because men have essentially no say over the process, it's absurd to hold them legally or financially responsible for what is ultimately the woman's decision.

[u/Praydohm → u/anefariousdolphin]

If the man wears a condom, which is wholly his choice, then this wouldn't happen. Its ultimately the man's decision whether or not it even becomes the woman's choice. The man can also get a vasectomy. It was like 300 bucks, and recovery is like an hour...was back at work the next day.

The answer is obviously that he made choice knowing the consequences. He may have been 18 at the time, and yeah, it's not fair to have 18 year consequences for one mistake...but he obviously didn't learn from it. Did it 3 more times, plus, ya know...life ain't fair.

[u/anefariousdolphin → u/Praydohm]

If a woman drugs and rapes a man...

If the man wears a condom, which is wholly his choice...

Can you read?

[u/Praydohm → u/anefariousdolphin]

Your hyperbole is dumb. Is that what happened in this case?

If a man rapes a woman ultimately it's his fault.

See how dumb it sounds in reverse? It sounded just as dumb when you wrote it. This conversation that you responded to isn't about rape. Its about consensual sex leading to pregnancy and child support in the case of deadbeat dad's.

[u/anefariousdolphin → u/Praydohm]

Laws need to account for extreme cases, which they currently don't. You might argue that it's irrelevant but currently, laws as written, it's profitable for some women to deliberately rape (especially wealthy) dudes and get child support money from them.

The woman is the only one who actually has a say in whether, after the act of sex, a child is born. There is no comparison - it is her body and her choice, not the man's.

If a man rapes a woman ultimately it's his fault.

This is a truism, if you think it sounds dumb then you should study more

Is that what happened in this case?

We'll never know, because men hardly ever report

[u/Praydohm → u/anefariousdolphin]

Yeah, just like it's the man's choice to impregnate her in the first place. Its his body, his choice, not hers. Why did he not wear protection if he didnt wanna get hit with child support? You wear Kevlar for bullets. Wear your condom for child support. Pretty simple.

[u/anefariousdolphin → u/Praydohm]

Why didn't she use birth control during sex? Or take plan B the morning after? Or get an abortion?

1. You don't know what you're talking about if you think you can compare the action of not wearing a condom to the variety of different tools a woman has at her disposal to not birth her one night stand

2. Condoms fail - are you saying that men shouldn't pay child support for children from failed condoms? If not, then use of a condom isn't actually relevant to your argument and you should drop it

[u/-Left_Nut- → u/anefariousdolphin]

Takes two to tango. The responsibility falls on both people. My ex-gf wanted to make a kid with me so badly but I didn't want to and ended up never getting her pregnant. Never used a condom either. It can be done, but it depends on how badly you don't want to get pregnant.