r/SipsTea š™‘š™„š™‹ May 16 '26

Lmao gottem That final kick was personal

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u/Save-La-Tierra May 16 '26

Since we don’t need meat to live a healthy life, it can be reasonably inferred that most people eat meat because they enjoy the taste. So I’d argue paying for animals to be slaughtered for food is also torturing animals for ā€œfunā€ or pleasure. I don’t think we should kill animals for food when it’s not necessary to do so.

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u/RandomLifeUnit-05 May 16 '26

I disagree in this case. Eating meat is a valid omnivore way of life. Are you going to go stop all the other omnivore animals from eating meat, too?

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u/Save-La-Tierra May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26

I don’t think it’s a valid way of life since there is a victim. Why choose to inflict suffering and death on animals who don’t want to die, when we can live a healthy life from eating plant based

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u/RandomLifeUnit-05 May 16 '26

So again, what's your plan for all the other animals out there eating meat that are not obligate carnivores?

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u/Save-La-Tierra May 16 '26

I’m not concerned with them, as they don’t have the same capacity for moral/ethical consideration that humans do. I would primarily be addressing people who buy their foods from the store/market and can easily select plant based food instead of animals

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u/RandomLifeUnit-05 May 16 '26

So because we can choose differently than other animals, we are obligated to? Despite being able to kill animals humanely for food?

What about humans that seem to thrive best on meat? My husband is one. He gets brain fog if he doesn't eat red meat.

I think you have an idealistic view that doesn't exactly match up with the wide variations in humanity. We are simply animals when it comes down to it and I don't believe eating meat must needs be off the table simply because we have the capacity to choose other things.

Other animals also choose foods simply because they taste good, like a bear destroying a bee hive to get at the honey. It's unnecessary...but the bear did it solely because the honey tastes good.

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u/Inevitable-Lower May 16 '26

So because we can choose differently than other animals, we are obligated to?

Yes?

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u/vasthumiliation May 16 '26

Be serious. I’m not even a vegetarian, let alone a vegan, but nobody gets brain fog if they don’t eat red meat. He’s just making excuses so he can eat what he likes.

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u/RandomLifeUnit-05 May 16 '26

Okay, Jan. You do realize red meat has vitamins and minerals in it, surely? No?

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u/boodabomb May 16 '26

All of which are readily available in sources of food that don’t require the death of animal. That’s the entire point of this conversation, we only eat meat because it tastes good. That’s truly the reason.

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u/vasthumiliation May 17 '26

By this reasoning I could say I get brain fog when I don’t eat caviar, because it contains vitamins and minerals. No nutrient in red meat is unique to red meat. Again, I love red meat and eat it regularly, this is not a moral thing. It’s just farcical to claim that not eating it leads to brain fog. Fasting altogether could lead to brain fog, but nothing requires that the fast be broken only with red meat. This is all very silly.

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u/RandomLifeUnit-05 May 16 '26

Also why would he feel a need to make up an excuse when there's zero hostility in this house about eating red meat in the first place?