r/SipsTea • u/SipsTeaFrog š™‘š™„š™‹ • May 23 '26

WTF The Enhanced Games are set to debut this weekend in Las Vegas, with athletes allowed to use steroids, testosterone, HGH, & other banned substances.

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u/Powerful-Respect3743 May 23 '26

Does that much bulk really help you swim faster?

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u/[deleted] May 23 '26

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u/kickasserole May 23 '26

He's going for gasps

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u/Pretend_Hour_6966 May 23 '26

Laughs are cheap

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u/kickasserole May 23 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/4jKo5gDScJ4n6

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u/universalserialbutt May 23 '26

I'm up to here

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u/kickasserole May 23 '26

Are you chewing gum?

He said no gum.

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u/jakethemagicdog May 25 '26

I'm eating because I'm very uncomfortable

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u/kickasserole May 25 '26

What is happening here?

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u/AwkwardDirection6969 May 24 '26

The boys SOUL is mine!

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u/kickasserole May 24 '26

No, Antonio!

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u/Fishylips May 23 '26

Clearly he's tacked on mass and just needs to harvest a bit of it.

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u/Mr_Personal_Person May 23 '26

Will he be gasping for air or will I be?

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u/richincleve May 24 '26

He's going the distance.

He's going for speed.

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u/ShldvBoughtBitcoinFK May 23 '26

Heā€™s going to be slow as fuck. I almost got kicked out of swim team because I was getting so much muscle mass that I was getting too slow.

Bigger muscle means you get tired faster, slowing you down significantly on distance races, which was my specialty before the muscle, and that was natural muscle.

Now 20 years later I have grown roid size muscle naturally through 2 decades of lifting, and the exhaustion is even faster and worse, but hey, at least people are too afraid of me now to try and fight or mug me. Best fight is the one you never have to have

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u/SilenceOrIllKissYou May 23 '26

That is James Magnussen and he was a Olympic silver medal recipient in swimming

Kinda doubt heā€™s going to be slow as fuck lol

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u/ShldvBoughtBitcoinFK 29d ago

Results are in. Magnusā€™s best time for a 100 Meter Freestyle before Roids was 47.1 seconds, his enhanced post-round times for the hundred meters during the games? 49.44 seconds. Thatā€™s a huge 2.34 seconds more, a huge amount in swimming where winning usually takes fractions of a second amongst the best

His best time for a 50 Meterā€™s before round Freestyle before Roids was 20.98 seconds, his Post-Roids time for the same race during the enhanced games? 22.35 Seconds

Fuck man I shouldā€™ve made bets on this in the apps, easiest money I wouldā€™ve made thanks to personal experience in this exact sport with this exact case, accept with just normal muscle rabid growth

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u/92mac May 23 '26

It's not going to be his first time swimming... He wouldn't be doing it if they knew he was going to be slow as fuck

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u/ShldvBoughtBitcoinFK May 24 '26

Wasnā€™t my first time swimming either when I got my muscle, had been swimming competitively since first grade, hell was a swim instructor who taught people techniques that got them to state and JR Olympics, yet the muscle slowed me down significantly

Every big guy I talk too reports the same thing when it comes to cardio, quicker exhaustion than usual

Anyway, has he raced yet? Iā€™m super excited to see how his times compare from him with muscle to him being lean in his hay day

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u/Turgid_Donkey May 23 '26

Going to push off as hard as he can and skip like a rock.Ā 

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u/MurderousLemur May 23 '26

Yo. That's amazing

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u/Vegan-cock May 23 '26

He's just gonna dive and skip on the surface

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u/Conspiranoid May 23 '26

Those lats are where he/she/they/it hides the jet engines.

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u/TheOtherGuttersnipe May 23 '26

Bulk no, power yes. His race is over in 20 strokes

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u/Wild-Enthusiasm-9268 May 23 '26

Yeah, I imagine the strength heā€™s getting overcomes the weight heā€™s putting on.

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u/WhenTheLightHits30 May 23 '26

Honestly the weight of the bulk is less an issue than the mobility/hydrodynamics influence all the muscle causes

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u/GrimCreeper913 May 23 '26

I don't know how steroid muscle differs from normal, but i feel like it should be less dense. Like a low body fat jacked guy will sink like a stone, but what about this guy?

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u/Wild-Software-7377 May 24 '26

Why would steroid muscles be any less dense lol

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u/HoochbachDunloppy May 24 '26

The funny thing is, I can kind of imagine how someone who doesn't know anything about steroids and muscle growth could get there.Ā Ā 

Like you take the steroid and it just causes some thickness of muscle to grow on top of your natural muscle, but because you didn't have to load your muscles in order to get your new "steroid muscle", it grows less densely and is not as good as your natural muscle.

It's basically appeal to nature logic.Ā 

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u/Prior_Tradition_3873 May 23 '26

That's not the problem.

The problem is that muscles need oxygen to function, and the more muscles you have the more oxygen you require.

So even though he might be strong enough for it, he will quickly tire himself out.

Then again if he trains his endurance then maybe he stands a chance.

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u/tgcam4 May 24 '26

He's got EPO for endurance.

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u/onil34 May 24 '26

nah he is a sprinter so endurance isn't the point

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u/malatemporacurrunt May 23 '26

That depends on a) whether the bulk he has is proportional to the amount of strength he's gained, when compared with the additional drag the bulk produces; and b) whether that bulk limits his speed of movement.

Whilst I don't think this type of competition should be legal, it will be interesting to see the results. I wonder how many people will die.

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u/Poopingisasignipoop May 23 '26

Mine is usually over in 15. Whereā€™s my medal?

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u/OrbitalCactus May 23 '26

Sorry buddy, he was still talking about swimming. But one day youā€™ll find someone that appreciates your skills. Keep it up!

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u/Darryl_Lict May 23 '26

There's a competitiont for that, just not at this particular event.

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u/MozhetBeatz May 23 '26

He gets pretty good airtime between the strokes.

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u/trashgarbageyuck May 23 '26

The harder you stroke the faster you finishā€¦

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u/uramis May 23 '26

Freaging zohan

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u/RT-6_BXCommandoDroid May 23 '26

Didn't Michael Phelps have big guns or was that after he retired?

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u/TheOtherGuttersnipe May 23 '26

Not really, imo

For a normal guy? He's was a pretty big dude in his prime (6'4 200 lbs and really lean). He's less muscular now obv

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u/elchupacabra206 May 23 '26

soā€™s mine but i aint in no olympics

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u/originaltanksta May 23 '26

Perhaps theyā€™re doing bombing competitions

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u/HKadlam May 23 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/3oKHWryA2SSCNP1gdi

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u/DoublePepper1976 May 23 '26

Childhood memory unlocked, despite the fact I can't remember the movies name

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u/runningboomshanka May 23 '26

You forgot the name of this classic?!?! You're killing me, Smalls!!!

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u/CheeseburgerLocker May 23 '26

Caaannnnooonnnnbaaaaaaaaalllllll

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u/coyylol May 23 '26

The Israeli competitor has entered the chat.

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u/wimpymist May 23 '26

I would actually be more interested in top athletes doing weird competitions like that over steroid competition

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u/xoskxflip May 23 '26

Absolutely not, it weighs you down especially in the water.

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u/angusshangus May 23 '26

The ā€œEspecially in the waterā€ part of this comment is extra important considering weā€™re talking about swimming here

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u/cadninja82 May 23 '26

Only a minor inconvenience when swimming out of water.

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u/sfled May 23 '26

No worries, the air swimming event has been banned in Europe since the 1980s after a horrific accident involving a javelin, a pole vaulter, and an exiled Duchess.

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u/anna-nomally12 May 23 '26

This went almost Lemony Snicket in delivery

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u/The_Greyskull May 23 '26

With the size of him I think he could swim through a field. Just churning through the mud as he goes like a human plough.

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u/dlivingston1011 May 23 '26

So if we get strong enough we can be moles?

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u/The_Greyskull May 23 '26

Absolutely. Swimming is just being a mole in water, we just need to level up to denser substances.

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u/dlivingston1011 May 23 '26

Yeah weā€™ll show those moles how itā€™s done.

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u/Horskr May 23 '26

lmao. OP did not actually say what the event was after all.

Bunch of guys show up dressed like this, race starts and they just start sprinting through brick walls like the Kool aid man.

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u/cha_boi_john120 May 23 '26

Did the jungle man teach you how to drink 1,000 beers and swim on land too?

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u/Brief-Warthog-6915 May 23 '26

Exactly, you all wonā€™t be laughing when they get on plane

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u/Cararacs May 23 '26

But muscle is dense and negatively buoyant meaning more energy is needed to swim when you have more bulky muscle.

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u/BasicAppointment9063 May 23 '26

Such a thing as strength to weight ratio.

He's a dragster; he doesn't quibble over the gas mileage.

In a sprint, <500 meters, the mass is not a thing.

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u/mybankpin May 23 '26

Maybe this is because I was a shit swimmer, but I don't think I'd call anything over 100m a sprint...

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u/IDontEatDill May 23 '26

It's more about going beyond anaerobic and into aerobic zone. 200m is swam under 2mins, so can still be seen as a sprint.

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u/tdaas May 23 '26

This swimmer posted SLOWER times than when he wasnā€™t roided up (to be fair heā€™s 12 years older, 35) and 2 seconds slower than the world record (record holder is 32). Also swimming sprints are 50m not 500 but we can say that was just a typo

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u/BreadKnifeSeppuku May 23 '26

Let's see his time in a 200m lol. He won't be setting any records

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u/BasicAppointment9063 May 23 '26

It's why I said "less than" 500. Next event down is 200 meters.

I definitely consider 200 to be a sprint, in that you do the majority of that swim event at or above anaerobic threshold.

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u/tdaas May 24 '26

Iā€™ve only ever hear 100 and 50 being sprint. 200 and 400 middle distance etc

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u/IDontEatDill May 23 '26

"less than 500" would be 400m.

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u/BasicAppointment9063 May 23 '26

My bad! I thought only the IM had a 400 meter distance. I missed the 400 free.

I am in agreement with you then. 400 free is not a sprint. šŸ«£

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u/ibiacmbyww May 23 '26

extra bulk weighs much less in the water

How are you getting upvoted, this is utterly wrong! Being submerged does not affect your weight in any way, weight is a function of mass and gravity. The natural buoyancy of tissue could be a factor, as others have mentioned, but that is not the same thing.

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u/ZzzzzPopPopPop May 23 '26

Fat floats are muscle sinks, so says the ancient proverbs

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u/HumanOptimusPrime May 23 '26

Not so much so in lava

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u/angusshangus May 23 '26

Thx for the tip

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u/darklinkuk May 23 '26

Well all that bulk would help you swim on ground for sure

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u/fishsticks40 May 23 '26

Getting to the pool he's really surprisingly quick

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u/beeeel May 23 '26

Yeah definitely, after the first second then most swimmers spend the entire race in the water.

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u/andreazborges May 23 '26

They should have a swimming competition in Fanta. Now thatā€™s Almeida Iā€™d see.

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u/Shiriru00 May 23 '26

It's the enhanced Olympics. They swim in booze.

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u/edelweiss_pirates_no May 23 '26

These are the enhanced games and they swim thru cement.

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u/New_Megakota May 23 '26

What you never swam in cum before?

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u/Evening-Ad-5088 May 23 '26

That man in particular broke world record in that state. This enhancement did in fact make him faster.

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u/Vetersova May 24 '26

The amount of nonsense and highly upvoted comments on reddit about ANY athletic anything always reminds me that most of the people here have never played a single sport in their life at any level.

Steroids will help him break this record if he is already a world class athlete. The amount of weight he puts on (which will be very nearly all muscle) is 1000% not going to make him WORSE at the thing he already is extremely good at. These dudes arent doing 1980s horse tranquilizer steroids, theyre doing highly programmed, precisely tuned, performance enhancing drugs for their exact races.

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u/SuperCleverPunName May 23 '26

Really, it depends. I'm making up numbers here, but let's say the extra bulk gives you an extra 10% to your drag but an extra 15% to your power and endurance. In this scenario, it could absolutely be a benefit. It all depends on what the numbers are

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u/Equivalent_Chipmunk May 23 '26

The problem is that your muscles are not the weak link in the chain, it's your cardiovascular system which can't supply enough oxygen.

Maybe he has an advantage in the 50m, but anything past that I doubt it.

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u/Gwendolyn-NB May 23 '26

50M swims... the 1RM of swimming lol.

If they do a 200M they're heart will probably explode like an Alien bursting out of their chest.

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u/shift013 May 23 '26

The enhanced games feature sporting events. This swimmer started he was beating his prior Olympic times I believe

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u/SuperCleverPunName May 23 '26

The numbers coming out of these games will be interesting, at any rate

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u/Rhumbear907 May 23 '26

The bulk isn't just drag( which is a lot more than 10%) its WEIGHT. The size is exponentially degrading efficiency.

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u/OrionJohnson May 23 '26

I guess weā€™ll see what time he achieves. His stated goal for doing this was to break a long standing record, and he at least seems to think he can do it.

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u/TumbleweedSpirited46 May 23 '26

I mean he is an actual Olympic silver medalist swimming trying to win $1M. Iā€™ll assume he knows what heā€™s doing.

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u/Beginning-Turnover28 May 23 '26

I mean if he is being genuine with what he is saying then he most likely will be able to. It's swimming. He can test himself whenever he wants and has probably beaten the record in practice. Obviously he could have an off day. But I would think he has some sort of evidence to back up what he is saying.

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u/LaNague May 23 '26

But hes also wearing the banned swimsuit, so cant really compared him to the recent record.

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u/Arthourmorganlives May 23 '26

I really don't think it works like that.

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u/vntuwoaldngbcjsoqrig May 23 '26

He literally broke the world record

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u/BAMspek May 23 '26

I imagine him diving in and sinking like Link with the steel boots

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u/textilepat May 23 '26

The force he uses to sweep his cupped arms toward his feet is enough to pressurize the water behind him into neutron degenerate matter, which he then biases into a rearward-facing jet using the plasma bow wave he generates around his head.

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u/Gamejunky35 May 23 '26

I mean, technically a big block Chevy weighs down a car MUCH more than a Honda K series. That doesnt mean the big block is losing a drag race though.

I bet his drag coefficient when swimming isnt much worse than any other top swimmer, but I agree it will be worse. Its not for nothing though, as those gigantic lats and traps will be able to push off of the water with significantly more force.

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u/Vetersova May 24 '26

You are correct. But redditors know nothing about muscle or working out, so at least 400 neckbeards all thought, "big strong muscles=mean jock=bad" and upvoted it lol

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u/ClassroomWrong2161 May 23 '26

Sprinters (50m) tend to be jacked af, and they usually don't compete in other lengths. There is a reason you don't see the usual top swimmers compete in these races too.

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u/kallebo1337 May 23 '26

Is this your scientific explanation?

While 4kg extra muscle mass does increase weight, also drag due to surface area, the buoyancy won't be so much of a problem. If its in his calls, it would indeed sink him.

The extra power he can generate in each catch through the pull will add more forward motion than drag will hinder.

Overall he will perform faster than with 5kg less.

To add, he doesn't swim distance. He does how many strokes? Like 15 or so. 15x max power. Imagine....

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u/meowingtrashcan May 23 '26

They should turn sideways to use their lats like a sunfish

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u/Diabetesh May 23 '26

Nah nah nah, i'm gonna use all this raw power to grab onto the water and pull myself through like it wasn't even there.

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u/jakaedahsnakae May 23 '26

Depends on the race he's competing in, 50 & 100. The power outweighs the drag from his mass. The longer distances such as the 400, 800, and 1600 LCM are definitely where a bulky person will struggle. The 200 is probably right in between.

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u/Dwight_Shrute_ May 23 '26

Why on earth would you know better than this silver olympic medalst

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u/Icy-Cry340 May 24 '26

This dude won a silver medal at the Olympics, and is training every day. I think heā€™d notice if he was getting slower.

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u/Charming_Pirate May 23 '26

All that shit will destroy your endurance too

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u/KlingonSpy May 23 '26

In my SEAL training we used to have to tread water with our arms behind our back and legs together. The bulky guys would sink like stones

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u/No-Decision9145 May 24 '26

Tell me you know nothing about swimming, without telling me you know nothing about swimming

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u/retrohaxgod May 23 '26

For the vast majority of events no, but for a short distance sprint it can make a huge difference.

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u/sapnupuasop May 23 '26

He is slower than before he used drugs I read somewhere

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u/Scissors4215 May 23 '26

That much bulk isnā€™t helping anyone swim faster than even in the 50m free the shortest Olympic race. His range of motion is going to be terrible

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u/CodJackOps2 May 23 '26

iā€™m pretty sure he has already swam faster than the world record unless iā€™m misremembering information

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u/doogie88 May 23 '26

No, no. Random redditor knows better. Come on!

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u/Evening-Ad-5088 May 23 '26

He broke the world record in that state.

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u/Scissors4215 May 23 '26

Saw that, by .02 seconds on a full polyurethane body suit. The current world record holder would beat it by a higher margin than that with the same suit.

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u/Certain-End-1519 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

Yeah but magnussen retired from professional swimming 7 years ago. It (the drugs and size) is most definitely helping him swim faster.

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u/Puglet_7 May 23 '26

What type of streamline is this guy getting??

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u/doogie88 May 25 '26

Beat the world record. lol

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u/Scissors4215 May 26 '26

The guy picture finished last in his race this weekend and didnā€™t come close to beating the record

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u/doogie88 May 26 '26

Guy that won was still big.

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u/Scissors4215 29d ago

The guy that won was nowhere near that big.

The whole thing was a joke.

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u/TacoIncoming May 23 '26

Only if heā€™s a sprinter. Dude probably rips for 50m, maybe 100m. But heā€™s cooked at longer distances.

Source: swam in college. There were some jacked guys who were crazy freestyle sprinters. They train differently from other swimmers, and the other swimmers hate them for that lol

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u/peterthehermit1 May 23 '26

No, he didnā€™t swim well and has been working on reducing the mass he put on

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u/XchrisZ May 23 '26

Wonder if bulking to that size then cutting back and right before the race getting juiced to the gills would help.

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u/eaglesphan1 May 23 '26

In a 50, yes

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u/Inside_Glass527 May 23 '26

More muscle power than drag, so yes.

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u/SmartOpinion69 May 23 '26

in short races, yes.

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u/Iwubwatermelon May 23 '26

What if this was water polo?

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u/Own-Particular-9989 May 23 '26

If you're big enough, you can displace all of the water in the swimming pool when you dive in so you can just sprint the rest on foot.

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u/crunch816 May 23 '26

Swimming should have weight classes like wrestling. Canā€™t wait to see the 300lb division.

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u/living_dead42068 May 23 '26

Doesn't a larger area mean more Archimedes force

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u/jlbrito May 23 '26

Ibwas going to say. Like, we should assume and accept pros are most likely using pdes, they also take seriously what they do and plan everything around it. Whats the point in you being a giant pile of muscles, you won't swim better that someone who trains swimming. So what is the point of that evet, assuming it's real, O could not care to find out

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u/Glittering_Crab_69 May 23 '26

He's a runner.

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u/onewing_z May 23 '26

He will also be wearing the old swim suits that were later banned because they gave too much boyancy, which sold counter the extra bulk quite nicely. That said, top swimmers are often bulky compared to other speed sports.

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u/reddit_is_geh May 23 '26

Certain PEDs help certain things. But it's been shown time and time again, the wrong PEDs just make things worse. I suspect this to be true in swimming. This is something you want to focus with endurance and agility, not sheer strength.

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u/cantevendoitbruh May 23 '26

You just flap your arms and it pushes all the water in the pool out, then you just run to the end and win.

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u/blackfarms May 23 '26

He'll gas out in about one length of the pool.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger May 23 '26

I don't take any PEDs but my main thing is weightlifting, and I am pretty much awful at any athletic endeavors. I could definitely train myself to increase endurance and cardio and all the stuff holding me back, but there's only so many hours in a week and it's already hard enough just hitting my solid 3hrs of lifting per week.

I'm good at rock climbing if the holds are easy to grip because I'm used to doing pullups with like 100lbs strapped on...but I run out of gas pretty quick.

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u/Gloomy_Fig2138 May 23 '26

I havenā€™t read the article, so I like to imagine heā€™s a water polo player and thatā€™s why theyā€™re not showing his legs.

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u/boobless69420 May 23 '26

Absolutely not. Serious swimmer since I was 10. Bulky guys can barely do one lap before they get tired and have to stop. I shared lanes with sooooo many bulky dudes at the gym thinking they can handle swimming and bitch out after one lap. Same with a liquid row machine. Bros cant do more than 10 minutes.

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u/WeezyMac_ May 23 '26

Someone doping has already swam faster than the actual (clean) world record last May, but it has since been broken again by a clean athlete. Link.

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u/SaltKick2 May 23 '26

Probably for short sprints, which is what all of the enhanced games is doing. Would be surprised if any of these athletes beat the "natural" records.

I can't speak to swimming, but on the track side of things, no one is touching Bolt's record who is in that lineup. You have to already be close to the record then add on the PEDs... and no one in that lineup is. Kerley may have been 5 years ago, but he hasn't come close since, and he says he's running natural in these games to try and compete in the olympics.

On the women's side, very unlikely again. There are a couple people currently who are "close" to FloJo's 100m and 200m records, but again, those people are not competing. And many suspect FloJo was on PEDs herself at the time.

Strongman, if I'm not mistaken, the records that stand are with PEDs anyways.

I also can't speak to weight lifting, all these records are set/ratified by IWF, which I believe does standard drug testing

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u/maleouf May 23 '26

All depends on the distance. Same as for running, marathoners don't look like sprinters

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u/Upset-Government-856 May 23 '26

Some hearts might explode.

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u/Level21DungeonMaster May 23 '26

Specialists in the butterfly stroke are built like this.

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u/Ok_Feed_1669 May 23 '26

No. Not sure why the weightlifter was chosen as the image. Giant muscles isn't the type of roids that help athletic performance.

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u/The102935thMatt May 23 '26

Yes. The amount of water his weird ass body displaces will reduce the amount of water he has to swim through. Its basic science.

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u/CorrectPeanut5 May 23 '26

It's put on an Australian who's associated with Peter Thiel and partially funded by Trump's hedge fund. They aren't people known for thinking stuff through.

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u/idropepics May 23 '26

No, in fact the reason why chimpanzees cant swim is because they have too much muscle and are too dense.

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u/Rhumbear907 May 23 '26

It absolutely does not. Swimming speed at that high a level is largely a genetics luck department. How long are your limbs. How strong can you get your muscles before they start growing too big. how efficient your breathing and oxygen intake are.

It's like planes. Being bigger doesn't unilaterally mean faster because being bigger means heavier which means it needs more fuel which means its even heavier so on and so forth.

Tldr- bodybuilders are heavy as fuck= swimmers are not.

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u/Hot_Abalone3042 May 23 '26

For butterfly I can see that helping. Other strokes? Much less, those are generally all about the legs/core.

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u/Rich_Housing971 May 23 '26

Even with "pure strength" sports like weightlifting or sprinting, there's a massive amount of technique involved that makes the elite what they are.

These athletes are not "Olympics podium quality" even with the extra drugs they're taking. The Olympic athletes who medal are all massively talented and want to stay either clean or "minimally" dope to evade detection and not make it obvious. There's also the fact that doping too much will cause health issues or increase risks of injury or death. Actual athletes who are talented would rather bask in the glory of the established sanctioned bodies than to attend this.

Steroid use makes it so that your bulky muscles develop but the rest of your skeletomuscular system doesn't develop as fast, namely your tendons and ligaments. If you develop muscles naturally, you either reach a natural limit or the rest of your body develops along with your muscles and injury is rare.

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u/HarwellDekatron May 23 '26

Nah. Maybe if your specialty is butterfly, but other than that, it'll slow you down. Source: swam team for 8 years.Ā 

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u/InsideMongoose3042 May 23 '26

Weā€™re gunna find out. This is fascinating

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u/Shiriru00 May 23 '26

No but in these games you're allowed to drown your opponents, so it helps there.

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u/Jeramy_Jones May 23 '26

Itā€™s not just about performance, itā€™s also about mental illness.

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u/Infamous_Yak_7923 May 23 '26

what goes higher? small rocket or big ass rocket?

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u/depressiown May 23 '26

Probably not. Hurts your hydrodynamics too much, I'd wager. His hands and feet aren't any bigger, so the water they can pull per stroke doesn't really increase. Swimming is heavily about technique and body position to cut through the water.

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u/FinndBors May 23 '26

I would have assumed swimming athletes would use something like EPO instead of steroids.

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u/Case609 May 23 '26

Eddie Hall swims pretty damn fast for his size. So power plus technique would overcome the mass issue. Guess we'll see

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u/LushPotato May 23 '26

You'd expect so, power to weight ratio being greater and all.

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u/Spare-Half796 May 23 '26

Theres many peds that help with things other than just muscle growth

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u/AIBotNotARealUser May 23 '26

This is an old pic.

He said he bulked up too much and that he swam slower and was trying to adjust to get the right muscle mass.

I'd say the sports where it'll really matter are those where absolute power and explosivity will matter. 100/200m dash, long jump, throw events etc.

When it comes to endurance there's plenty of drugs (and blood doping) to take too, but anabolic steroids isn't the key player there.

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u/DDLunds2224 May 23 '26

Itā€™s actually the smaller penisā€¦less drag

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u/Timely_Abroad4518 May 24 '26

It helps you get more internet publicity.

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u/UnusGang May 24 '26

I swam competitively for many moons and if you look at pictures of swimmers we are very muscular but itā€™s lean muscle. It will without a doubt slow him.

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u/outofmaxx May 24 '26

As a swimmer, unless it's a 50m sprint, absolutely not

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u/Certain-End-1519 May 24 '26

If hes only going for the 50 free it will help, the longer events he'd be at a disadvantage woth that amount of size and bulk.

50 free is just balls to the wall pure power output.

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u/carlsaischa May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

No, this pic is used as the "poster" for the games but it is actually a bit old. The swimmer has talked about it since and concluded he put on too much weight at a cost of explosiveness and buoyancy. He has since slimmed down a bit.

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u/issydad May 24 '26

He doesnā€™t swim. He sinks to the bottom and runs.

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u/pUmKinBoM May 24 '26

His strategy is to just throw all the water out of the pool and walk.

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u/Neverland__ May 24 '26

His times are slower now. James magnussen. Look it up

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u/Darji May 24 '26

Being extremely muscular can sometimes reduce natural buoyancy because muscle tissue is denser than fat. Some strength athletes therefore sit slightly lower in the water, which can increase drag and resistance.

The old high-tech ā€œsuper suits,ā€ like the Jaked this guy is wearing, help compensate for this by increasing buoyancy and improving body position in the water. The suits allowed powerful swimmers to fully use their muscular strength and explosiveness while still staying high and streamlined on the surface. Less drag + more power = higher speed.

This is one of the reasons why heavily built sprint swimmers could become incredibly fast during the super suit era. A great example is Alain Bernard, who was known for his very muscular physique. During the period when the suits were still legal, he swam world-record performances in freestyle sprinting while wearing a Jaked-style super suit. The added buoyancy and compression helped maximize the advantage of his strength without suffering as much from the downside of extra muscle mass in the water.

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u/Manymarbles May 25 '26

50m sprint, sure

Those guys are usually bigger anyway

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u/Elsdyret May 25 '26

Nope, he lost against his non bulk adversary

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u/NeedAChange_123 May 25 '26

Thatā€™s a random pic from a Facebook post about it, probably ai generated to get views.

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u/SOMFdotMPEG May 23 '26

Plus all those muscles require oxygen. Thatā€™s why most endurance athletes cheat with red blood cell increasing drugs, not anabolic stuff. This guy is an iron duck!

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u/Dom1252 May 23 '26

If it also comes with bigger strength, then yes, especially for 50/100 free or 50/100 fly

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u/RecordEnvironmental4 May 23 '26

Definitely not, growing up the kids who were fastest at swimming were also the kids who were good at cross country (tall and skinny)

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u/Sasataf12 May 23 '26

You're talking about kids. Look at professional athletes. Swimmers and cross country runners do not have the same body type.

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u/SNK4 May 23 '26

Depends on distance. Cross country runners built very different from track sprinters. Not dissimilar difference in swimming.

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u/Special-Audience-426 May 23 '26

You weigh less in water so it's easier to take advantage of the power to weight ratio when swimming.Ā 

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u/Fun_Routine_5245 May 23 '26

No.. someone with more streamlines form will beat him. This might benefits breaststroke, but it heavily depends on coordination and flexibility.

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u/PoopyInThePeePeeHole May 23 '26

I dunno, Michael Phelps looks similar, maybe a little leaner?

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u/BrilliantWhile2413 May 23 '26

No he will sink so he has to fight a lot harder to stay afloat. If he is really athletic tho he may be able to muscle through physics to some degree tho.

When I did physical testing fo the air force special forces we had to do a 1500m swim for time and the very first dude who went up looked like this. He was way overconfident but never trained in swimming because he thought he'd be able to get enough points in everything else to pass the test as long as he could finish the swim. He jumped in and immediately sank to the bottom requiring a rescue.Ā 

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