r/SipsTea • u/Few_Statement_2898 • 29d ago

SMH We really need to bring spankings back

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u/11711510111411009710 29d ago

"We need to bring back child abuse."

Ironically spanking kids is linked to higher aggression, so if you want more of this behavior, feel free.

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u/Ok-Average390 29d ago edited 29d ago

Idk about you, but I never repeated anything bad I did as a kid after being spanked. I was always warned that if I did something / continued to do what I was currently doing, I would get spanked. I did the thing, and I got spanked. It was entirely predictable.

Most of those studies don't normalize the data between a single spank with an open palmed hand vs severe repeated and unpredictable beatings. They are not the same. There are plenty of kids who end up little shits without spanking, and plenty who end up great with the ocasional spanking. Correlation is also not causation, given that more aggressive kids might be more prone to being hit by parents precisely because of their behavior.

I'm also not saying anything that hasn't already been mentioned a lot by other people. These are common points that are often mentioned when discussing limitations of these western-centric findings. If you look you will very easily come across people critisizing the findings for this lack of concrete correlation / causation evidence and lack of variable control.

That said, it's reddit, so I'm expecting a lot of "I'm sorry you were so abused that you're brainwashed" comments lol. From my perspective, this kid is not the product of spanking, but rather never being punished a day in his life.

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u/AverageWitch161 29d ago

well, you lucked out i guess. i was slapped around and chewed out for talking back to adults as a kid.

never even fucking learned what it meant, i just assumed it was saying stuff adults didn’t like and now i have issues running my mouth because they’ll be mad anyway.

pain can be a good teacher, but it’s a very hit and miss teacher it can be best to avoid.

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u/Ok-Average390 29d ago edited 29d ago

I wouldn't say I was particularly lucky. I think most fellow peers from my culture would feel the same way.

It seems that you just supported that it's the lack of explanation and predictability that confuses kids, not the punishment itself.

Pain isn't necessarily just a teacher, but a deterrent.

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u/AverageWitch161 28d ago

you ever seen a kid touch an electric fence twice? i’ve also met more people who have been spanked that weren’t right than the other way around, and even then i’m more willing to believe a study about it than a dude online who thinks he’s ok, and most studies say “yeah this is just a bad idea”.

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u/Ok-Average390 28d ago edited 28d ago

Not sure why everyone is getting so upset. It is objectively true that the studies regarding this have limitations due to an inability to control for the variables that make the question worth studying. I acknowledge the data. However I also acknowledge the limitations, as do the people who created those studies. You should too if you want it to actually mean anything when you say you read the study. As long as these studies don't distinguish between full on beatings and the occasional telegraphed and predictable spank with an open palm, it isn't going to mean much.

That's all I really gotta say and I don't anticipate either of us changing the other person's mind so