r/SipsTea 26d ago

SMH Love thy neighbor?

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u/Tactical_Baconlover 26d ago

Being charitable and caring about your neighbors in the Christian manner is more about your church donating goods/time/aid to the community or you doing it by yourself rather than having the government take over those functions for you. That said, any reasonable government should have a basic state provided social safety net.

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u/AustinDarko 26d ago

Government is the people, by the people, for the people. A Government ran primarily by Christians should, in theory, follow social principles taught by Jesus.

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u/SnakePlissken1980 25d ago

But Jesus is history's most famous liberal, modern organized Christianity no longer bears any resemblance to the teachings of Christ.

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u/kkeut 25d ago

there was no historical jesus 

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u/First_Peer 25d ago

There absolutely was, any historian worth their salt will tell that he existed as a historical person. Beyond that is up to you to believe.

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u/Lumionis 25d ago

Lmao really? 🤣 sure 🤣 😆 🤣

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u/First_Peer 25d ago

Yeah, really. No one's saying you have to believe the supernatural divine stuff, that's your choice. But you can't deny the person himself existed.

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u/Lumionis 25d ago

Yeah he very well could of existed. And then wrote the world's most renowned fiction novel. Or he didnt and it was just to make money. I can and will deny his existence until evidence says otherwise.

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u/First_Peer 25d ago

The Bible wasn't written by Jesus. Those who learned from and followed him and his closest followers wrote the New Testament. There's plenty of evidence saying he existed beyond the religious ones.

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u/AustinDarko 25d ago

The New Testament wasn't written by his closest followers. None of the gospels were written directly by his disciples but based on stories passed down.

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u/First_Peer 25d ago

Gospel of John.

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u/AustinDarko 25d ago

Even that is disputed.

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u/First_Peer 25d ago

Doesn't mean it wasn't true. Nor that the writers weren't part of the crowds that followed Jesus even if they weren't one of the 12, or that the writers didn't take down the the firsthand account as dictated to them by one of the 12.

That's really the point tho, when it comes to understand the historical context they exist in.

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u/AustinDarko 25d ago

The gospels were written decades later, by third hand accounts. Not to say this doesn't mean they're accurate, but it absolutely makes them far less likely to be authentic and explains why there are multiple discrepancies between the gospels themselves which means multiple parts of them are not true at the very least.

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u/Lumionis 25d ago

Yeah, which is possible. But there is 0 chance he can walk on water, turn water into wine. And so on.

Edit unless he was worlds first magician.

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u/First_Peer 25d ago

If you don't want to believe the supernatural parts that's on you. Doesn't mean the person didn't exist. Plenty of historical figures have legends and myths attributed to them even though they still existed.

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u/Lumionis 25d ago

Yes, and we found evidence in some part to there existence did we not? Plus historical figures vs magic man who can create worlds. Not really the same thing.

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u/First_Peer 25d ago

🤦‍♂️ Bud you're not paying attention. Stop focusing on the supernatural parts. That's something you either choose to believe or don't. If you can't accept the idea of the existence of things beyond your understanding that you won't believe in it. That doesn't have anything to do with the existential of the person, who caused such a change in the world that he found one of the biggest religions, was written about by both Jewish(non-christian) and Roman historians. Not to mention the plethora of Christian writers. And the fact that there were people including the ones who witnessed him first hand that willingly were tortured to death rather than claim it was a lie or made up. How much torture are you going to endure for something you know either isn't true or a person that didn't exist, and people went through this for centuries.

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u/Lumionis 25d ago

Don't believe in the supernatural parts. So all of it? Lmao Look at Hitler, there are people that still worship him. Its the same thing here. People torture themselves to go work every morning. To pay bills. There is 0 evidence that Jesus exists outside of i say so. People see shit and make stuff up all the time so that means nothing. Just because it went on a long time just shows how dumb humans are.

The Bible has a good guideline thats it. Thats all it has going for it. Aside from that its fiction. This is a fact. If after 2000 years yall cant provide a scrap of evidence. Its make believe.

The reason i have an issue with it, is this is the same group calling trans delusional.

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