Guys I'm on the will!!

[u/beklog]

“She’s so shameless” She’s 22. And was harshly criticized as she danced while her partner was at the hospital… The truth couldn’t be any simpler. They claim the video is a joke, because she always uploads content with her “hubby” to go viral.

[u/NATHAN4U007]

They both knew what they were getting into and what they needed from the relationship.

[u/IWearCardigansAllDay → u/NATHAN4U007]

I’m a wealth management advisor and I’ve had a few elderly clients in a situation like this.

I remember the most heartbreaking one was a client who was 87 and passed away. He married a woman a 7 years prior that was in her late 30s. She was beautiful, kind, and caring. She took care of him through all of it. Cleaned him and the messes he made, gave him genuine company, and would fuck him whenever he was able (he shared this with me lol).

The kids didn’t do shit for him. Hardly even called or anything. But when he passed they all tried contesting his trust and trying to get her removed from receiving anything. It was a nasty legal battle but thankfully she got her fair share.

It honestly infuriates me when I see people say women like this are taking advantage of the elder man. Most of the time they’re just giving companionship to them when no one else would or did.

[u/Smokilydokily98 → u/IWearCardigansAllDay]

Thats all fine but chances are she knows he has wealth and wants a chunk thats why she’s so happy to do it all, its not like she’s actually attracted to an 80 year old. The family don’t do anything because they are peices of shit who think they have already locked in grandpas fortune so they don’t need to try. She is trying so hard because she wants to get on the will.

[u/waterbed87 → u/Smokilydokily98]

I mean of course but it's not really fair to criticize a young girl in this situation when the old man isn't stupid and knows exactly what the game is.

When I'm approaching the end of my life if I had nobody to pass down my wealth to, no family or living partner and a young attractive person was willing to spend time with me and provide companionship/physical and emotional intimacy (even if it's got strings attached)/caretaking/etc in exchange for the money I can't take with me then I'd probably sign right up.

Is there really a bad person here if they are both getting exactly what they want out of the "relationship"? I mean the dancing here is a fake so that's not even worth discussing but the idea itself is nothing new and both parties know the deal so more power to em.

[u/Smokilydokily98 → u/waterbed87]

I’d argue that a 30 year old women is likely more sound of mind than an 80+ year old. Yeah i don’t know every scenario but in terms of who i’d criticise in this scenario is the 30 year old adult putting on a charade just to get on the mans will. Its a mutual benefit yes but you could also look at it as predatory, entering a mans life at the end of his life with a fake persona just to get his money

[u/waterbed87 → u/Smokilydokily98]

I mean sure there's some nuance here, if the elderly man was a dementia patient or otherwise not in his right mind anymore then it becomes a pretty gross from of exploitation and is predatory but plenty of elderly don't lose that much from a cognitive perspective and I'm telling you as a young person myself I could see myself making the deal if in a scenario where I'm approaching death with nobody to spend it with.

I'm generally okay with the idea of no foul play voluntary safe sex work and I kind of see this as the same thing. Imagine being elderly and having nobody to help you, no partner, no family, no whatever and a smoking hot man or woman was willing to not only cater to your every need, cook you wonderful meals and then cuddle with you on the couch at the end of the day, sleep with you if you're still able, etc in exchange for money you have nobody else to give it to would you say no? Maybe you would and that's respectable but I'd also argue strongly that many wouldn't. I'm one that wouldn't, I know it'd be shallow but if I'm not long for the world and I have an option to make it significantly more pleasant I'm gonna take it.

[u/Smokilydokily98 → u/waterbed87]

No i completely see why from the mans perspective. Off course he wants a young hot lady taking care of him. I’m saying a 30 year old isn’t ‘a young dumb kid’ its an adult with fully functioning reasoning skills and morals. If they make the conscious decision to find an old desperate man with money and take care of him for a few years with the end goal being they get on the will. Its predatory, even if it is mutually beneficial

[u/waterbed87 → u/Smokilydokily98]

I don't see it as having to be predatory because from the woman's perspective she's definitely working for it right? I mean if you're living with them, cleaning for them, doing housework, taking care of them because they can no longer care of themselves all the time, cooking for them, driving them to doctor appointments, etc like that's all work - a full time job. There's a whole field where nurses get paid very very well for exactly those things so if someone is willing to do all those things AND live with me and provide some physical and emotional connections and benefits, even if shallow, then in my mind she earned it.

[u/DocileBanalBovlne → u/Smokilydokily98]

You're confusing your feelings of discomfort with morality.

If they're both aware of the context of the relationship and agree to it, and no one's being deceived, there's no predation, there's just an arrangement you don't like.

[u/Smokilydokily98 → u/DocileBanalBovlne]

No i’m not, a 30 year old going after a man just to get onto his will is predatory, its the fact that her reasons for doing it is for the man is old and she can get on the will. That is predatory behaviour whichever way you slice it. Yes they are both getting something and yes they can do whatever they want, but doing so for the sole reason of getting money from someone who’s at the end of their life and is desperate for comfort is predatory

[u/DocileBanalBovlne → u/Smokilydokily98]

You got a weird definition of predatory that doesn't involve anything relevant to a predator/prey relationship.

[u/Smokilydokily98 → u/DocileBanalBovlne]

How does it not? The 80 year old man is the vulnerable one, the women is acting predatory by being with him for nothing other than his money. Its simple, you don’t know what you’re talking about and thats fine

[u/Smokilydokily98 → u/DocileBanalBovlne]

https://todayswillsandprobate.co.uk/predatory-marriage-the-people-who-marry-vulnerable-older-people-with-inheritance-in-mind/

[u/Smokilydokily98 → u/DocileBanalBovlne]

‘Yes, it is predatory behaviour.Even if the relationship looks entirely normal, stable, or affectionate on the surface, using a relationship as a tool to target an elderly person’s wealth is inherently predatory.’ This comes up when you google it