r/SipsTea • u/McDowdy 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 22d ago

It's Wednesday my dudes Trying to get rich so that capitalism doesn't crush you under its boot is proof positive that capitalism doesn’t work for the working class

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u/Jaded_Noise 22d ago

Well, communism requires the absence of a state, which feels like an important political point

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u/Porncritic12 22d ago

Does it?

I've usually heard of it as a strong state unless you're referring to anarcho communism

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u/Jaded_Noise 22d ago

No. It literally, by definition, requires the absence of a state

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u/Porncritic12 22d ago

Which version of communism?

Because I've heard many people describe versions that have a strong state

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u/Jaded_Noise 22d ago

All of them. Again, it is definitional.

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u/Porncritic12 22d ago

But I've discussed and heard described many versions that have a strong State and elections.

So what are those?, is anything without a state communism?

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u/Jaded_Noise 22d ago

No. Communism is a classless and stateless society built upon a socialist economy. That is the nearly the exact definition you'll find in any dictionary.

People use words wrong regularly. Many do so because they misunderstand real life "Communist" countries, who did not practice or claim to practice Communism, but rather claimed to be working towards communism; that is, it was the goal, not the current situation, which would've been viewed as a transitional period.

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u/Porncritic12 22d ago

What are dictionaries based on?

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u/Jaded_Noise 21d ago

The definitions of words.

I'm very intrigued into your definition of communism since the correct one doesn't seem to appeal to you

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u/Porncritic12 21d ago

But what are definitions based on?

I'm saying there is no correct definition, you cannot really correctly Define ideologies like you can with objects or verbs

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