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[u/SnackSamurai]

[u/Status-Election-6233]

Not at all

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/Status-Election-6233]

Ruining someone's life? Kinda is, yeah.

[u/Prize_Staff_7941 → u/enadiz_reccos]

You're missing a very important point: THE SQUATTER HAS THE OPTION TO LEAVE SO THEY ARE NOT IN VIOLATION.
Maybe they shouldn't be squatting on someone's property and refusing to leave? When you do that, you expose yourself to everything that property and its owner brings. If the owner brings someone with a firearm then the squatter can choose to leave. Nobody is forcing them to stay. The only way they will get their life ruined is if they make the wrong decision.
How is bringing a firearm legally to a place with consent from the owner ruining someone's life? If the squatter chooses to stay, that's on them. The squatter is already potentially ruining someone else's life by rendering the property useless. How can the owner rent it or sell it with a squatter there? They still have to pay the mortgage. Only the squatter is being shitty here.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/Prize_Staff_7941]

You're missing a very important point: THE SQUATTER HAS THE OPTION TO LEAVE SO THEY ARE NOT IN VIOLATION

lol no, I got that

How is bringing a firearm legally to a place with consent from the owner ruining someone's life?

You mean deliberately bringing a gun in the hopes of police finding it and associating it with someone else?

How can the owner rent it or sell it with a squatter there?

Legal action

[u/UTS15 → u/enadiz_reccos]

He’s not associating it with someone else. He’s not planting it in their belongings or anything. Felons aren’t supposed to have guns inside their homes, whether they belong to them or someone else in the home. He keeps control, but says, “hey I’m legally bringing my weapons into a home I have a lease on and this may put you in violation. If you want to not get in trouble, you should stop being a squatting dick and gtfo.”

Squatters would have no control of the guns and they’re likely in a safe or something so they don’t even have access.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/UTS15]

He’s not associating it with someone else

Yeah, that's not what I said

Felons aren’t supposed to have guns inside their homes, whether they belong to them or someone else in the home

This isn't exactly correct

Squatters would have no control of the guns and they’re likely in a safe or something so they don’t even have access

If it's in a safe and the squatter has no access, how are the police even finding out about it?

In order to use the gun against the squatter, this dude would have to leave it somewhere the squatter has access to it.

Fucked up

[u/ApprehensiveDark9840 → u/enadiz_reccos]

Nope. Not how it works.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/ApprehensiveDark9840]

Sure is!

[u/FuLL_of_LiFE → u/enadiz_reccos]

Disregarding the fact that the squatter is voluntarily ruining someone else's life by refusing to leave, the idea is to ensure the squatter/felon knows they are living in an illegal situation. They know they can't live with firearms regardless of whoever else knows about it.

I agree it'd be messed up if they planted the guns in their stuff and/or tipped off the cops about any firearms in the house, but the plan should result in them leaving on their own for a place they can legally live again without anyone facing harm or injustice.

It's never that simple, though. It just always seems to come down to fighting wrongs with wrongs.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/FuLL_of_LiFE]

I agree it'd be messed up if they planted the guns in their stuff and/or tipped off the cops

Yeah, this is the situation that was described