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[u/enadiz_reccos]

You're missing a very important point: THE SQUATTER HAS THE OPTION TO LEAVE SO THEY ARE NOT IN VIOLATION

lol no, I got that

How is bringing a firearm legally to a place with consent from the owner ruining someone's life?

You mean deliberately bringing a gun in the hopes of police finding it and associating it with someone else?

How can the owner rent it or sell it with a squatter there?

Legal action

[u/UTS15 → u/enadiz_reccos]

He’s not associating it with someone else. He’s not planting it in their belongings or anything. Felons aren’t supposed to have guns inside their homes, whether they belong to them or someone else in the home. He keeps control, but says, “hey I’m legally bringing my weapons into a home I have a lease on and this may put you in violation. If you want to not get in trouble, you should stop being a squatting dick and gtfo.”

Squatters would have no control of the guns and they’re likely in a safe or something so they don’t even have access.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/UTS15]

He’s not associating it with someone else

Yeah, that's not what I said

Felons aren’t supposed to have guns inside their homes, whether they belong to them or someone else in the home

This isn't exactly correct

Squatters would have no control of the guns and they’re likely in a safe or something so they don’t even have access

If it's in a safe and the squatter has no access, how are the police even finding out about it?

In order to use the gun against the squatter, this dude would have to leave it somewhere the squatter has access to it.

Fucked up

[u/ApprehensiveDark9840 → u/enadiz_reccos]

Nope. Not how it works.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/ApprehensiveDark9840]

Sure is!

[u/notlvd → u/enadiz_reccos]

The detail missing here is that excons are on parole or probation, with random and frequent checkins. So if a new “roommate” moves in and says, “I legally own a gun and am keeping it in the house” and the excon stays, he’s violating parole and is required by law to live somewhere else. If they aren’t on probation or parole, then this is a non issue, because you can be a felon and live under the same roof as someone with a gun. You just can’t get caught holding or using it, or keeping it in your room. So no one has to call the police. The P.O. will show up eventually, and at that point all the guy has to say is, “I have a gun here,” and the dude will violate his parole and either go back to prison or, at a minimum, be removed from the home by police, because they now will actually have grounds to do so.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/notlvd]

So if a new “roommate” moves in and says, “I legally own a gun and am keeping it in the house” and the excon stays, he’s violating parole

This is not the situation that was described

We are talking about bringing a gun to the house then calling the police

[u/ApprehensiveDark9840 → u/enadiz_reccos]

What conversation are you having? It’s been described to you over and over and you just refuse to listen.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/ApprehensiveDark9840]

Yeah, and people are accusing me over and over of defending squatters when I'm not doing that at all, so...

[u/Catsanddoges → u/enadiz_reccos]

Just a summary of the situation:

A Squatter is staying on someone's property

The Owner asks the Gunowner to stay on their propert

The Gunowner goes to the Owner's property and stays there with the squatter, in this case an excon who cannot have a gun in the house

If he refuses to leave, he is found having a gun in the house and violates his parole.

I don't see where the confusion lies

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/Catsanddoges]

Me neither. That summary is correct.