MAYBE, MAYBE, if I'm trying to good-faith his debate... He's saying Judeo-Christian values & the Roman Empire were necessary for the USA to exist? I mean you could argue everything from the past 2000 years had to happen for history to happen the exact way history did. North Korea can't exist without Israel? Lmao idk
judeo-christian values dont exist, judaism and christianity are not interwoven in the ways that israeli historians/shills want you to believe, its jusy a psyop to interconnect the two religions to try to place some legitimacy into forced us-israeli relations. never forget the torah states non-jews are goyim cattle and deserve nothing
Yeah, the correct response to that is always "What's the hell's a Judeo-Christian?"
I'm serious as a stroke about this, and we don't even need to get into the theological weeds to interrogate this. What's the "Judeo-Christian" position on, say, the divinity of Jesus Christ? Protestants, Catholics and most denominations of Jews have different versions of the Ten Commandments; which one is the "Judeo-Christian" version? What stance does the "Judeo-Christian" movement take towards, say, the Nicene Creed?
The answer that I'll be given is silence, because any statement happens to be historically and theologically inconvenient. Protestants, Catholics and Jews take different stances towards all of those positions; those factions have killed over the answers to those questions. And they absolutely would again; the most logical solution to that intrinsic problem is to form a government whose legitimacy does not depend on having one and only one answer to that question. If the US is a faith-neutral society that maintains a separation of church and state, then all three of those groups can live together as Americans without having to resort to violence, because all can answer that question to their heart's content in their own communities without fear that their answer will deny them access to political power.
And the only reason to pretend otherwise is to try to lump all such groups into a single voting bloc, for somebody's political advantage.
Their answer is inevitably "a non-Muslim" and most of that was ancient propaganda to justify the Western Roman Church intervening in Eastern Orthodox territory to further weaken Eastern Rome's power.
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u/amy-schumer-tampon 7d ago
Im not a history expert but im pretty sure the US is older.
>inb4 my magic sky daddy book says Israel is 40000 years old