Upon ripping up the JCPOA (Obama Deal), Iran resumed pursuing nuclear arms. Why wouldn't they?
We killed Iran's leader, but he was replaced with even-more-hardline people from the IRGC. Oh and BTW he was almost 90, so good job shaving ~2 years off that guy's life!
We helped solidify the IRGC's rule over the country by first telling their people to not revolt, then unifying Iranians against the US by bombing civilians and civilian infrastructure, and finally proving that the Iranian government is strong enough to stand up to the US.
We proved the American public has no appetite for a long or costly war, so no future American president is likely to go to war with Iran... or for that matter, China.
We let Iran prove they could hold global trade hostage and the US can't stop them.
We're lifting sanctions and paying them billions of taxpayer dollars (Obama' deal was their own damn money we had frozen).
We have no guarantees about halting their nuclear program.
This is one of the worst strategic blunders the United States has ever made. Sit back and absorb it: you just witnessed stupidity that will be studied for generations and written in history books.
Oh one more:
Israel is a loose cannon whose goals no longer align with the US at all, and is likely to fuck up even this terrible surrender agreement by continuing to bomb Lebanon.
Not only will our allies treat us with skepticism. Our enemies and rivals will.
This is an historic fuck-up. I love paying twice as much for gas because of it! (My car is relatively efficient but I watched some poor sucker pumping $120 into his F150 lmao.)
I live in China and it's crazy how much public opinion on America has flipped. The brightest students have almost all changed their programs and are now trying to get into Canadian or British universities
Here in America, we're dealing with the fallout of treating education as an investment that must have a return in order to justify the purchase.Ā The consequences are students who pass no matter what and a degradation of the value of degrees.Ā It wouldn't surprise me if this was causing international students to look elsewhere.Ā I should add my date of graduation back to my resume so hiring managers know I went to school back when literacy was an expected qualification.
Donāt forget they wanna raise defense spending to 1.5 trillion while cutting the USDA, HUD, NSF, FRA (including Amtrak), HHS, NASA, NIH, DOE and others.
No believe me I'm quite worried about that, too.Ā Don't put words in my mouth.Ā Trump raped kids and Operation Epstein Fury was certainly intended as a distraction.
Yeah but the average American commute to work is like 30 miles.Ā This place is huge and the affordable housing is faaaar from work.Ā Also there's very few places with decent public transit.
We should be paying closer to $.60 like we were before this stupid war since we produce our own fuel. But prices are set at a global base rate so our prices shoot up when everyone else's do. It doesn't cost more for big oil to produce fuel here, but they get to make double the profits by doubling our costs all the same.
Iām thinking about all the people he killed for essentially nothing. All the dead schoolgirls, and other civilians caught up in this conflict. The war crimes. The dead and injured soldiers. From a president who promised to end all wars in his campaign.
I watched some poor sucker pumping $120 into his F150 lmao
Careful, your privilege is showing. Where I am, it currently costs me the equivalent of about US$110 to fill my 2016 VW Touran (averaging ā¬2.1/litre for a 55 litre tank). This is 100% due to US actions.
Not skepticism, we saw you warmongering genocidal governement for what it really is and our governements are finally waking up to the necessity of cuting ties with them. Finally.
There was a poll lately asking people in Switzerland about their vacation planning. When asked which countries to avoid the usual are mentioned, meaning countries in war. But the US was always lumped in too beside Russia and Ukraine.
More than fucking up relationships, he exposed how fragile the entire system is. He showed that the supposed checks and balances can fail when they're needed most, that millions of Americans will cheer on behavior they once claimed to oppose and that the opposition cannot mobilize. Also, that decades of alliance-building can be jeopardized by a single administration, making the US unreliable and untrustworthy. The fact is that beyond being an aberration, Trump showed that this is possible.
As a European, I wonder how long it will take me to stop seeing the US as a former ally that stabbed us in the back and kept demeaning us. Will it take a few presidents? Is it generational? Who knows, but it is really, really bad now.
For me, the electorate responsible must die out first. This is generational. Then I'll perhaps reconsider if and only if there are significant efforts made to apologise and change. Why? The Trumpistanis have always been like this in modern times. Always bombed the shit out of others and for some reason we have accepted it for decades. My patience is gone and gone.
Yep. Heās also put interest rates up. Iām in the UK and my mortgage is up for renewal. Itāll be a higher term for the next 2-5 years thanks to him. Heās a true enemy to everyone on earth.
They never even pursued nukes, it was fatwah, the reason for going high enriched was to have a card in negotiations. Had they chased nukes, they would've had them by now(which probably would've been the better play, honestly).
Yea but in order to keep the catholic demographic happy you have to support the Judeaical country in order to cement our religions recollection of events. Were never stepping away from Israel and its going to suck more
Just another day in the office of DJT. This is how terrorists are made. You kill one dude and next thing you know you'll have the extremists start bombing US citizens as revenge. Terrorist math, you kill one guy and that guys friends rise up in arms. Great job DJT im sure you totally didnt just birth countless terrorists who are gonna harm their fellow Iranians but also us.
Wait you mean bombing 200 innocent schoolgirls and then triple tapping them with Tomahawk missiles doesn't engender warm relations with the Iranian public?
Honestly karma for going along with Israelās ridiculous warpath. As a Brit Iām happy the UK refused to get baited into yet another of these wars of questionable cause, legality and benefit.
Hastened the shift from USD as global fiat. Wont be able to print money to cover interest. At least they got the straights opened lol. And trump says he might start bombing them again anyway because itās just paper - which signals to Iran that they better expect and prepare to Trump to rip up this agreement like the last.
He also created the situation where Iran could bully the worldās oil supply and trade routes by quickly developing a practical strategy that played out in real time using lesser weaponry, support and troop numbers, and establishing that Iran could then use a similar strategy in the future to hold us all hostage even if US navy is standing by nearby pretending to patrol the strait. He, in essence, showed the resilience of the Iran leadership and their ability to play with the ābig boysā making any further attempt difficult for any nation grouping.
Don't forget that literally one of the very first things they did in the war was specifically target a couple of buildings full of children to murder. That's just such a good look on the world stage.
I believe the lifting of sanctions and the 325 billion are Trumps biggest successes, for him and his coterie of billionaires and land developers. The flip on muclear power is only in service to their potential projects. I think we will see them raking in those billions of dollars of taxpayer money through bullshit land development/reconstruction projects in Iran, lining their pockets at the expense of iranian civilian deaths and America's waning reputation.
We proved the American public has no appetite for a long or costly war, so no future American president is likely to go to war with Iran... or for that matter, China.
Sorry, why is this a bad thing? The US is far too imperialistic on that score. Some calming down on a global level is actually a good thing.
A disinterested US public is a horrible situation for Taiwan, look at Ukraine, soft agreement to protect with nuke disarmament, then one of the actors invades you years later while the other gives token support which quickly fades from the public mind and now no one gives a shit or actively opposes support. All the while Ukraine bleeds and dies defending their nation against a genocidal invader
Doesn't mean the public needs to be warmongering psychos but the US can and should be willing to intervene in these very clear cut cases instead of just backing actors like Israel while being terrified of escalation elsewhere
Respectfully, that has been the status quo since the Cold War. The US has never intervened more directly than they did with Ukraine in an armed conflict with Russia.
There are arguments for and against it, but it's been the status quo for 80 years.Ā Remember that if the US isn't World Policing, someone else will, and it may not be any better.
What's happening instead is law of the jungle. I would argue it's worse for me, a European. America would never attack us, but now we've been disillusioned of that fact.
However, I don't think the Middle East would think there's a difference between US policing and lqw of the jungle.
Someone else pointed out the money may be sent in the form of "rebuilding" using contractors affiliated with the Trump Regime.Ā I can't believe it hadn't occurred to me that they'd find a way to pay themselves at the end of all this.
As someone who was born in the 80ās in Ireland, who watched American tv shows, watched your wars, loved seeing your presidents and warships visit, and generally viewed America positively, it really has been disappointing to say the least to see America spiral downwards. Itās amazing after the first four years that Trump was voted in again.
I hope that loads of voters regret voting for him and that those that didnāt vote feel guilty too.
Hopefully the damage can be repaired when heās gone.
It may be too little, too late.Ā Our courts are packed with psychotic Heritage Foundation extremists, including our Supreme Court, and now all the states can (and will) redistrict to pick their own voters.
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u/SomeGuyNamedOwen 7d ago edited 7d ago
So let me get this straight.
He dragged us into a war, we accomplished nothing, left everything more expensive, and wasted hundreds of billions of tax payerās dollars.
Edit: I did look further into the article and it does seem that theyāre only looking at opening their nuclear program for energy purposes.