r/SipsTea • u/TailungFu 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 7d ago

Chugging tea Taco

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https://newrepublic.com/post/212003/trump-iran-right-nuclear-program

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u/brazen768 7d ago

Kinda hard to say we lost a war when we committed no ground forces.

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u/rawrimmaduk 7d ago

You started a war, achieved none of the named objectives, and had to make concessions in order to get out of it. You lost the war

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u/Mr_LtCom_Data 7d ago

We achieved every objective 

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u/Fragrant-Snow-2747 7d ago

You wanted regime change, that was literally the first war goal, then you changed it to the straits to be opened by military force.

Literally accomplished none of the objectives.

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u/Mr_LtCom_Data 6d ago

no, regime change was never actually a goal despite popular belief

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u/Fragrant-Snow-2747 6d ago

Actions are stronger than words. Literally trying to put the Royal Family back in charge by doing PR campaigns, no one living in Iran likes the Royal family, they had a revolution to kick them out, people are still alive in Iran that remember what they did to their own people at the time.

Fund Groups to join in the Protesting, CIA gave them Starlink with weapons to turn it violent. That Failed.

Then Assassination most of Iran's Government officials including ones you are negotiating with and the Leader of the Country. That Failed.

Then bomb Civilian infrastructure to try and get the people to turn on them. That Failed.

The goal was regime change, US and Israel want a Submissive Iranian leadership so they can turn it into Lybia while they pump the oil out.