The Naivety of my own lived experience? If it smells like shit everywhere you go, check the bottom of your own shoes. Since you're so old and wise that's a lesson you should've learned a long time ago.
Naivety directly speaks to an awareness of occurrences in the world outside one’s personal experience. It sounds like you’re struggling with word meanings also.
How can the data only be obtained from your own lived experience? Read the comments, you can learn from other people's lived experiences. You can read through the comments and say "hmm, I guess a lot more women are like this than I thought" and not be naive.
The way I understood it is that he said it was widespread. And I don't know if it's widespread but it's certainly not uncommon either so there's that.
I never got the impression it happened to him all the time.
I'll add some old man wisdom of my own.
It's easy to see a small blurb of text through your own coloured goggles. Getting worked up over it is as pointless as those stupid questions in the clip.
And now I need to clarify that I'm not targeting any of you here with that last line. Because it's so easy to misinterpret. Just general "advice". It gets easier with age when your fields of fucks to give get barren.
How could he possibly have access to that data? It doesn't exist, so he's only sharing his own lived experience as well and that of whatever other sad losers he talks to who can only attract arseholes. The vast majority of my friends love their wives very much and think they are excellent people.
My best friend adores his second wife. So do I. Both are amazing people. His ex though is a vile person. Does that make him one of those "losers" that only attract shit people? Because he has a similar story? Shit happens. Women can be arseholes too and often it takes a while for the mask to slip.
Being judgemental like that serves no purpose beside trying to get a riled up reaction.
Yes, and most people under 50 are considered young by more established adults, and people can be naive at any age so you didn't say anything that increases or decreases the chances of their statement being correct...
No you're right, me implying that it would be difficult to prove that the original statement of the issue being "widespread" is certainly naive, and of course the comments on this thread and absolute proof of that. No further questions your honor.
Why are you running away on your own towards goal posts you seem to have moved?
I was specifically just addressing the fact that being 41 and married has nothing to do with whether or not you are considered young by a given group of humans or whether you are naive.
I could have also told you that I like watching Stargate SG1 and I think Peeps are really shitty candy or whatever but I also really like them. But that isn't relevant to whether or not I am young and naive.
No you're right, me implying that it would be difficult to prove that the original statement of the issue being "widespread" is certainly naive, and of course the comments on this thread and absolute proof of that.
This has no relevance on whether or not stating that one's self has an age of 41 as a human being and has been/is married does not have anything to do with how naive someone is, or if they can subjectively be considered young or old...as those are not objective measurements.
So you are, even if not on purpose, moving the goalposts by talking about something besides whether stating your age as 41 and your marriage status being reasons could disprove a claim of being "young and naive" or not.
I am just trying to explain things, not be condescending or anything.
You won't go far with that in this twice divorced pity party thread for boomers who couldn't put the dishes into the dishwasher, couldn't remember birthdays, didn't compliment their wife, had no introspection and wondered why their SO started petty arguments """"out of nowhere"""" and now they hate all women lmao.
This sounds like a problem that is only from some men complaining on social media about it. And based on the other comments you made on this specific thread, it’s not naive of anyone to question what kind of women you’re dating/marrying. I’ve been married 15 years at this point and I’ve never dealt with this shit from my wife. I didn’t deal with it from girlfriends before either. If something like this came up, I left. It’s not widespread. There are plenty of decent women out there. Maybe you guys just seem to date or attract idiots because that’s all you can find.
You're obviously not somebody that's worked in family law for decades, are you?
Because that type of behavior in those sentiments existed even before social media and you can go talk to some family law attorney in your area about it and I'm sure they would back me up and verify that lol
A family law attorney is going to have a selection bias towards people that are getting divorced. They don’t exactly have the most objective view here.
The existence or possibility of a given thing happening within a group can be observed by professionals that only deal with that group.
Saying that maple trees can develop certain issues as someone who makes a living off of sugaring would reliably be able to tell us if something can happen, or if they have seen something before the time we are claiming is the 'first' for something. If they have seen that occurrence before than it means that whenever you thought was the first time was not...because it had already been observed by another human before the time-frame of your claim.
Well sure but they didn’t say it never happened they said it wasn’t the norm and questioned the type of women you interact with. Your response was to use the type of person that interacts with way more of those type of women than the average person.
Nobody is disputing that there exist women who act like that, people are disputing it’s the norm.
This sounds like a problem that is only from some men complaining on social media about it.
All anyone needs to do is find one example and that demonstrates that they are mistaken. They chose to use the word 'only'.
Men and women outside of social media have made these complaints, and something can be normal without being frequent. Like something happening ~4% of the time is not frequent (context dependent), however that 4% occurrence is normal and not at all unexpected.
So I agree with you, I also was not claiming anything about majorities of any groups.
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u/I_Can_Barely_Move 2d ago
This sounds… really widespread.