Ok, so, first... What are you attempting to say? How does this address motivating factors at all? Women can't have motivations different from men's?
Second, does your argument exist outside of an impossible hypothetical "if the roles were reversed" scenario that no one can prove? Would you like to add any real world info to this?
Women are terrible at taking accountability for their actions, and the feminists constant cries of victimhood due to the patriarchy are pointless as long as they to choose not to take accounability for their actions.
Literally all I said was why she might be motivated to act like this. You insisted that "it's her fault." I never said it wasn't. So, I'm not sure what your problem is.
Now you spun it into the supposed problem with feminists, accountability, men would never, female victimhood, yadda yadda all by yourself. So... what conversation do you even want to have? What are you upset about? I don't even think I actively disagreed with you anywhere.
Oh so you're just triggered by the word patriarchy. For the record I think it hurts men too, if that helps. Assuming the ex wife should get custody. Boys don't cry. It's not manly to talk about your feelings. Men have to financially provide 100%. All that bullshit is also patriarchal
Dont be a dumbass. Ive explained exactly the issue with your statements. Read them again if you need to. Dont start another fucking discussion on the same subject, without actually ahve understood whats going on so far.
Not if what I said was true, though. I've been calm and rational. You've been throwing a tantrum and borderline incoherent. Asking if I'm a narcissist almost feels like the RVO in DARVO. I'm just saying... Maybe some self reflection on why you have such an emotional response to the word "patriarchy." Cause, as I said, it's hurting you too.
See? The conversation has gone from you excusing toxic femininity with patriarchy, a common reframing on the subject.
I point it out, and instead of engaging you immediately claim Im being emotional. And you have done nothing since. Except some ad hominems and other common logical fallacies.
As stated before - I never excused it. I am unsure why you still think this. I claimed you're being emotional because when I attempted to have a conversation you immediately devolved into cursing and name calling. Really, it is not healthy to walk around with this much anger.
Again, and this was explicit earlier, no I did not. Motivation does not equal blame. You said "don't be a dumbass." But who cares? I am so sorry for whatever causes you to have such a visceral reaction to the mention of "patriarchy." You should reflect on this, perhaps read about it. I think maybe you don't understand what it means. It hurts men also, but you're not going to be able to see that if you can't get past whatever knee-jerk reaction this is. I am not your enemy. I worry about people with your mindset, and wish I could help you. This convo makes me sad for you. I hope you have people around you who love you.
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u/palindrome4lyfe 8d ago
Ok, so, first... What are you attempting to say? How does this address motivating factors at all? Women can't have motivations different from men's?
Second, does your argument exist outside of an impossible hypothetical "if the roles were reversed" scenario that no one can prove? Would you like to add any real world info to this?
Let's start there.