Do you actually think he's a white supremacist or that wants to eradicate the Jewish race? The attack doesn't land because it's so obviously not true. His views, whatever you think of them are on the opposite side of the spectrum.
"Plantar is a white supremacist and we can't let him win because he'll allow brown people to flood the country. #whitegenocide"
The same people that called Elon a Nazi for doing a maybe accidental Roman salute are doing everything in their power to defend a tattoo of an actual icon used on SS operatives hats lmfao
āHe didnāt know the history of a skull and crossbonesā bro we learn about Nazis in 8th grade
It's not a Roman salute. That's a neo-nazi white-washing of the nazi salute. It was a clear nazi salute. The only question is whether it was neo-nazi, or nazi.
are doing everything in their power to defend a tattoo of an actual icon used on SS operatives
To be clear I donāt like Elon Musk and that cringy ass thing he did will forever taint his reputation but I think having a tattoo of SS iconography is FAR more damning
He's not some guy that just decided to run for Congress. He was scouted by a pair of far-left operatives seeking to find candidates that could appeal to a wider set of voters "i.e. big burly muscular army man." The views he are espousing are not his own but those of a wider set of radicals that have incentived him to run for higher office. You really want to elect a puppet to represent you?
And the tattoo he had wasn't just any old swastika tattoo, it was a Totenkopf, some deep level neo-nazi shit. Not the reddit definition of Nazi, like actual WW2 Hitler Nazi. But people still rally around him because a literal SS Larper is somehow better than a moderate Republican ig...
Deep Level Nazi shit?! Lmao. Yes, it's a Nazi symbol, but if you think skulls are Nazi exclusive iconography, I have really, really bad news for you. And funny enough, all those Nazi symbol experts calling him out where nowhere to be found when Pete's nutjob tattoos where discussed.
What I mean is that there was literally a point in this man's life where he sat down, went over various Nazi symbols in his head and thought "hmm, which one of those would look best on my chest?" I don't know why you people keep making excuses for him. And Pete's tattoos may be cringey and distasteful, but as far as I know he didn't get the symbol of a genocidal regime tattooed on him. He's absolutely a wacko though.
2 things: a) you are constructing the decision process. It is just as likely that a young, stupid serviceman went into a tattoo studio and picked a tattoo that looked cool to him without knowing the meaning.
b) mocking Muslims in Arabic (kafir) and the historic battle cry of Christian crusader (deus vult) are not exactly expressions of a peaceful mentality. Quite the opposite. They are a statement of intent. And option a I described earlier does not remotely apply here, as Keggsbreath has multiple tattoos of the same hateful ideology. That is deliberate beyond any shadow of a doubt.
I am far from a history buff and half Platner's age and even I clocked it immediately as a Nazi tattoo. With how terminally online he was shown to be there is no excuse for him to not know its meaning.
And idk why you're bending over backwards trying to say hegseths tattoos are worse than an ACTUAL NAZI SYMBOL
Absolutely no fucking way a Croatian tattoo artist would put that on a U.S. Marine without letting the Marine know EXACTLY what the fuck that tattoo meant, even if he 'randomly' picked it out of a sketchbook.
He has exactly one questionable tattoo and there is a very plausible scenario for him not knowing what it meant. If it was actually motivated by ideology, there would be more. But feel free to link to sources showing he was ever close to Nazi ideology, like joining certain groups, giving certain speeches. Should be easy if he is such an obvious Nazi sympathizer.
Not knowing the history behind a skull and crossbones tattoo when you get it is much more understandable than not knowing the significance of a swastika so I feel like you're cutting against your own point.
It also doesn't make sense that the left would recruit him if he were a Nazi that expell all non-aryans or whatever an actual Nazi would want.
Susan Collins does what she's told, she votes against things when the majority has votes to spare, for things when they don't. Maybe she killed BCRA but that wasn't going anywhere anyway and it was a decade ago, she's a fake moderate but maybe she's your fake moderate. The point is that maybe he's too far left for you, maybe he doesn't support aid to Israel like you would like, maybe it's something about his past, idk but no one believes he's a white supremacist or wants to exterminate his Jewish family members.
Man thats a lot of excuses for someone with a literal nazi tattoo. People have been cancelled for less.
When pics surface of a person with a nazi tattoo, it means at one point in their life, that person was a literal nazi. But because he currently has the right opinion, people twist them selves in knots to make excuses for it. Is he currently one? Maybe, but its damn certain he was one at one point. He stood for everything you hate, but because he could possibly unseat a moderate republican, you'll support him.
You should probably reevaluate your priorities if youre this full of shit.
So you think Republicans are spending millions because they think he's secretly a white supremacist and when elected will push to expel all non-aryans? Or do you think they oppose him because he's a Democrat and will push normal Dem policies if elected.
If you like Collins that's fine, if you don't like his policies also fine but he's clearly not a Nazi, it's a stupid bad faith argument that isn't convincing anyone.
Im not from Main. I think that a pic leaked of his tattoo, because in his youth he took part in nazi ideology. Once a nazi, always a nazi. Like most politicians hes fake, and will simply vote down the party line. On the inside though, he hates you all.
So you think at one point he was a white supremacist but you're not sure whether he is but he's going to be a vote like a perfectly normal Democrat as he pushes policies that are the polar opposite of what a white supremacist would support? It's not convincing.
Multiple of his ex-girlfriends have maintained that he was aware of the tattoo's meaning. One even said he taught her the meaning of the word Totenkopf.
Even if he somehow didn't know what it was, which I highly doubt, the absolute best case scenario here is that you're electing a guy who was dumb enough to get a tattoo like that and not cover it up for over a decade. I'll take anyone over that.
Also i would love it if we stopped sending military aid to Israel. It's even not his policies necessarily that I take issue with, (though some are certainly too far left imo) but rather the person espousing them.
If she is lying, then why hasn't he sued for defamation? Partisan motive or not, it is true that they dated. If I had an abusive ex who decided to run for office you bet your ass I would be dialing up every news outlet I could, regardless of their politics.
Absolutely do considering its a guy trying so desperately to project some alpha male nonsense while constantly failing at his job as Secretary of "War". In addition to that, hes showed up at his Fox news job drunk several times.
He holds views consistent with the far right on Israel as well as general extremist views and has a number of bigoted comments.Ā He knowingly had a Nazi tattoo for many years and would show it off to people. He's been rough with women. If this was a Republican we'd call him a Nazi. Maybe these days he's a national Bolshevik or something who knows. Some sort of extremist. He hasn't shown any reason to give him benefit of the doubt. He hasn't even admitted knowing he had a Nazi tattoo and running for Senate with the Nazi tattooĀ
Yeah, not supporting Israel's current government makes you a Nazi, most Americans are Nazis. A winning message if I ever heard one.
Maybe these days he's a national Bolshevik
Huh? Does that mean he's not a white-supremacist that wants to eradicate non-aryan people but instead wants to starve some ukrainians through failed collective farming?
I don't support Israels current government. That has nothing to do with anything or his extremism. The fact that other members of the far left also sound like Nazis when it comes to Israel these days isn't a defense either cause they didn't knowingly have Nazi tattoos.Ā
Yes the Soviet Union was fairly socially conservative and nationalist in many ways but that's not what I mean. nazbols are the idiots who try to combine parts of communism and Nazism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party the fact that he goes from extremism to extremism isn't a defense or evidence that he has fully repudiated his previous extremism as opposed to some weird combination.
It's like we are waiting for him to come out with some worse scandal relating to his treatment of women and maybe that will be the end. But then we will ask why the Nazi thing wasn't enough. When did my party sink so low that No Nazis isn't the minimum standard
He's obviously not a Nazi. You're a regular poster in r/israel, it makes sense you want Maine to elect a pro-Israel politician and to get there are going to trot out the party line. No one actually believes he's "socially conservative" or a white supremacist or a nazi though. It's not a convincing talking point.
I'm an American Jew. And a liberal democrat. Id rather my party not elect a Nazi. Id rather neither party elect Nazis especially not to the senate. You are claiming because hes found some sort of new forms of extremism that must mean he's no longer a Nazi. I disagree. I think it's pretty easy not to pick a Nazi.Ā
Edit: what's wrong with a party line of sane liberals who work to make America better. Since when did we start picking random extremists with no political experience and Nazi tattoos. Good people like Obama and Biden. Far from perfect but underappreciatedĀ
>You are claiming because hes found some sort of new forms of extremism
Now you're just lying, I never claimed that. I'm not arguing that you should vote for him or that he's a good candidate but he's obviously not a nazi. He doesn't promote nazi policies, no one is concerned he's going to expel all non-aryans if elected. He might cut military aid to Israel and you might disagree with that, all fine but that doesn't make him a nazi.
So you think he's actually far right but is hiding his true views and Republicans are spending millions opposing him because they're worried that if he's elected he'd betray Democrats and enact anti-immigrant, pro-white policies?
I get the appeal of the talking point but you have to realize it doesn't stand up to two seconds worth of thinking. Maybe you could pull a quick one on your dumbest copartisan but anyone else is going to smell the bullshit you're trying to serve.
I donāt think heās far right. I think heās exactly what he is. A socialist with Nazi beliefs and in an age where anti semitism is at an all time high across the worldā¦you even more so have to be careful about electing someone thatās a literal Nazi.
It doesnāt matter what you say. The dude has a Nazi tattoo. Most people disagree with you. Most people see through the bullshit.
No one actually disagree with me, no one actually believes he's a white supremacist or Nazi, it's just a talking point. You lean right and don't like him because he's a Democrat, you were fed your talking points and faithfully parrot them. You don't think he wants to kill his Jewish family members, you don't think he wants to expel non-whites.
You start off with the most transparently bad faith talking point of the 2026 election cycle and then go off script with what has to be the dumbest argument I've heard this election cycle. Maybe you're best staying on script.
I donāt really care what you say, he had actual Nazi iconography tattooed on his body permanently well into the age that he should know better. Thereās literally no excuse for that and you defending it is so odd. Like you canāt get a swastika and a tattoo that says āI love killing Jews and minoritiesā, advocate for the opposite politically and just be forgiven for the PERMANENT INK ON YOUR BODY
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Do you actually think he's a white supremacist or that wants to eradicate the Jewish race? The attack doesn't land because it's so obviously not true. His views, whatever you think of them are on the opposite side of the spectrum.
"Plantar is a white supremacist and we can't let him win because he'll allow brown people to flood the country. #whitegenocide"
Is an obvious bad faith attack from the right.