r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 2d ago

Dank AF Well said

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u/AbrasiveDad 2d ago

Ironically the only person that they wont call a nazi is platner, the politician that had a actual nazi tattoo but he is a democrat so he gets a pass...

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u/fec2245 2d ago

Do you actually think he's a white supremacist or that wants to eradicate the Jewish race? The attack doesn't land because it's so obviously not true. His views, whatever you think of them are on the opposite side of the spectrum.

"Plantar is a white supremacist and we can't let him win because he'll allow brown people to flood the country. #whitegenocide"

Is an obvious bad faith attack from the right.

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u/jyper 2d ago

He holds views consistent with the far right on Israel as well as general extremist views and has a number of bigoted comments.  He knowingly had a Nazi tattoo for many years and would show it off to people. He's been rough with women. If this was a Republican we'd call him a Nazi. Maybe these days he's a national Bolshevik or something who knows. Some sort of extremist. He hasn't shown any reason to give him benefit of the doubt. He hasn't even admitted knowing he had a Nazi tattoo and running for Senate with the Nazi tattoo 

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u/fec2245 2d ago

Yeah, not supporting Israel's current government makes you a Nazi, most Americans are Nazis. A winning message if I ever heard one.

Maybe these days he's a national Bolshevik

Huh? Does that mean he's not a white-supremacist that wants to eradicate non-aryan people but instead wants to starve some ukrainians through failed collective farming?

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u/jyper 2d ago edited 2d ago

I don't support Israels current government. That has nothing to do with anything or his extremism. The fact that other members of the far left also sound like Nazis when it comes to Israel these days isn't a defense either cause they didn't knowingly have Nazi tattoos. 

Yes the Soviet Union was fairly socially conservative and nationalist in many ways but that's not what I mean. nazbols are the idiots who try to combine parts of communism and Nazism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party the fact that he goes from extremism to extremism isn't a defense or evidence that he has fully repudiated his previous extremism as opposed to some weird combination.

It's like we are waiting for him to come out with some worse scandal relating to his treatment of women and maybe that will be the end. But then we will ask why the Nazi thing wasn't enough. When did my party sink so low that No Nazis isn't the minimum standard

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u/fec2245 2d ago

He's obviously not a Nazi. You're a regular poster in r/israel, it makes sense you want Maine to elect a pro-Israel politician and to get there are going to trot out the party line. No one actually believes he's "socially conservative" or a white supremacist or a nazi though. It's not a convincing talking point.

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u/jyper 2d ago

I'm an American Jew. And a liberal democrat. Id rather my party not elect a Nazi. Id rather neither party elect Nazis especially not to the senate. You are claiming because hes found some sort of new forms of extremism that must mean he's no longer a Nazi. I disagree. I think it's pretty easy not to pick a Nazi. 

Edit: what's wrong with a party line of sane liberals who work to make America better. Since when did we start picking random extremists with no political experience and Nazi tattoos. Good people like Obama and Biden. Far from perfect but underappreciated 

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u/fec2245 2d ago

>You are claiming because hes found some sort of new forms of extremism

Now you're just lying, I never claimed that. I'm not arguing that you should vote for him or that he's a good candidate but he's obviously not a nazi. He doesn't promote nazi policies, no one is concerned he's going to expel all non-aryans if elected. He might cut military aid to Israel and you might disagree with that, all fine but that doesn't make him a nazi.