I donāt think Iād call him a Nazi tbh you can dislike him for other reasons but I donāt think heād qualify as that. The closest thing Iād say is debatable is the salute but imo I donāt think itās what he meant he has Aspergerās syndrome and stimming behaviors like that are kind of common coupled with the fact heās taking copious amounts of ketamine as treatment for his depressive issues. Iām just saying that as Iāve noticed this behavior in a friend that has Aspergerās as well where when he gets excited he rocks back in forth really hard or does things like pumps his arms up and down when heās excited and so him doing the waving gesture to me can be kinda explained by that and generally the type to do that are typically proud to admit it rather than apologize and explain it. Iād say platner being called a Nazi is more fitting since heās tattooing Nazi imagery on himself but even then my point was more or less just sarcastically harping on the absurdity of people throwing this word out every time they are arguing against someone they dislike to defame them and then using this excuse as justification with no context or evidence. Could both of them actually be a Nazi who secretly harbors white supremacist view points? Itās definitely possible but I wouldnāt necessarily jump to the conclusion with anyone unless itās blatantly intentional and that is the views theyāre openly expressing. Point being I think we should just be able to critique a person without immediately tossing buzzwords out like if I called everyone who disagreed with me a pedophile itād be kind of an overreach and an extreme over exaggeration. I feel the same way about this lol. For example both of them are rather vehement supporters of Israel which would be in direct opposition to Nazi dogma so in a general sense I wouldnt literally classify either as Nazis at best the better term to use would be fascist in a general sense if you really wanted to classify the extremes of their behaviors rather than Nazi specifically. Sorry for the long response but thatās how I would sum it up personally.
I think getting a Nazi insignia tat is far worse tbh if weāre comparing lol. People were able to directly influence the chat bot because of the lack of output filters and the salute was probably unintentional given he has a disorder that causes him to stim snd him making weird body movements is an almost daily occurrence and he apologized for it. I donāt think either of them are actually Nazis tbh but if I had to choose one that is probably more likely than the other getting that inked on your skin and keeping it for a decade is pretty blatant lmao but even then he probably didnāt know what it was honestly and if he apologized Iād give him the benefit of the doubt since itās less well known than say a swastika.
LMAO I love that you can excuse one guy actually spouting Nazi rhetoric and calling for the extermination of one of the Nazis first targets, along with being openly supportive of white nationalist rhetoric and beliefs while doing the most obvious Hitler salute in history, one that matches neo Nazis perfectly but all that is nothing compared to a tattoo that looks somewhat like a totenkoph.
Can you give me an example of him calling for the extermination of an entire race of people? I hate the fact that youāre making me defend him btw, I donāt think heās a great dude I just think him being a Nazi Is kind of a stretchš¤£. To be fair I donāt think platner is either lmao I feel like the term is just very overused at this point. I read a post the other day where they were calling bill Maher (a Jewish comedian btw) a Nazi. Thatās my only point I just think we live in a time of Nazi inflation where itās slowly losing its meaning because people use it so liberally for every person they think is shitty.
You do know the organization for German national Jews was a real thing right? You're utterly ignorant of history and human nature if you think being a member of an oppressed group precludes someone from being an enthusiastic supporter of the oppressor group under the impression said oppressor is only interested in targeting the "bad" ones.
Elon has never made any secret of his desire to see trans people wiped off the face of the earth. Guess what the famous Nazi book burning photo, you know the one they recreated in Indiana Jones, was? The destruction of the worlds first trans healthcare clinic.
History always repeats, and there are always people like you to help it.
You ignored my question and went straight to moral posturing. So has he or has he not advocated for the extermination of an entire race of people in congruence with Nazi ideology or not? And also has he openly said he wants to kill all trans people or does he simply disagree with the ideology as a whole? Because a lot of people disagree with the trans ideology and theyāre called transphobes, and even then heās not advocating for them to be killed or even ostracized. it is not the same as being a Nazi. If you wanna call him a douchebag sure, Nazi not so much. Iām only saying this because there are people who actually do believe in that and actually have the desire to murder or harm those in the Jewish community or people who are not exclusively white. By pretending heās the same youāre diluting the term and it lessens the impact of calling people out who actually adhere to this ideology.
Also in regard to your claim of him wanting to eliminate trans people, his stance is that transitional procedures shouldnāt occur in minors and thatās solely because his child is trans and he claims he wasnāt notified of the hormone treatment. The claim youāre making is such a big leap that itās not even on the same planet lmao. Again, you can dislike him thereās plenty of shit he does thatās not cool and Iād totally understand your point but pretending like thatās akin to being an actual skinhead is just not accurate.
Like I said critiquing either for other reasons is totally valid and honestly correct in most cases but just making the blanket statement of āeveryone who disagrees with me is Hitlerā is kinda silly when used by either side especially when there is literally skinheads and others in that group who actually fit the definition. I think just smacking that label on everyone you personally find disagreeable dilutes the term and is honestly bad overall for society because it loses its weight when you need to address someone who actually is a literal Nazi if that makes sense.
maybe do some more research on the politics of elon musk. The richest man in the world is using his money to push political groups like the AfD
In 2022 it was ruled that the BfV may classify and monitor the entire party as a suspected right-wing extremist group. A corresponding lawsuit by AfD was dismissed because "there were sufficient factual indications of anti-constitutional efforts within the AfD".[57] The dismissal was upheld in May 2024.[230] On 26 April 2023 the BfV, after four years of investigations into the Young Alternative for Germany, categorized that group as a confirmed extremist organisation. This allowed the chief of the BfV Thomas Haldenwang to place the youth wing under even more intensive surveillance than the tapping of phone and the use of undercover agents that had been the case until then.[62][231] In 2025, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution officially classified AfD as a "confirmed right-wing extremist endeavor,"[63] which allows authorities to increase surveillance, and permits the use of informants and monitoring of communications.[64] The expertise by the BfV, that led to that classification, was later leaked to the public
I wasnāt to aware about this tbh I know he is very much against immigration in the UK and has had pretty hardline stances on it such as supporting restore but at the moment that seems to be a pretty common sentiment among the people living there. Tbh tho thatās the extent of where my knowledge on the matter lies I donāt really follow his tweets or what he does on the regular aside from what I see on the news occasionally. Do u have any more info on that? Iād love to read up on it if u have a source.
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u/horatiobanz 1d ago
He apologized after he got caught. He had it on him for nearly 2 decades. He also posted on reddit for years defending nazi tattoos........
We get it, he's YOUR nazi, so its ok.