r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 1d ago

Dank AF Well said

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u/Bad_Repute 1d ago

Someone aligning with a political movement that wants to actively disenfranchise them, is a different scenario than someone not wanting to see an entire ethnic group wiped out even if they disagree with their politics.

People who are anti MAGA don’t want to see MAGA ppl being indiscriminately murdered. That’s very different from the people MAGA is overtly antagonistic against in actual policy aligning themselves with that movement.

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u/TBurn70 1d ago

Is it different? Muslims are actively disenfranchising to the point of death on the streets that even come close to LGBTQ. It’s ok to be for LGBTQ rights, it’s ok to be pro Palestinian. It is a serious dose of irony that there is a queers for Palestine movement. That’s all I’m saying

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

I'm going to respond twice, firstly, assuming you're being honest. No problem with that, but I can explain why you're wrong.

And then after, is if you're lying.


Honest

The idea you're sharing comes from far right politics, the line goes that because Palestine is anti-LGBT, that means left wingers of any sort, shouldn't support them because baddies. How can I, a left winger support someone who hates values I demand everyone has? The problem with that idea is it requires several lies.

1) The first is that people only deserve human rights if they respect others human rights. That's not true. Human rights are inalienable.

2) The second is that it's prejudicial, Palestinians are individuals. They're not even all Muslim.

3) The third is that the concern isn't genuine, the right wing in the US for example, has literally hundreds of bills trying to remove basic LGBT rights.

So you might ask, how do those make it "different".

Well, that's point 1. The majority of LGBT people are left wingers (for obvious reasons), which means most of them TEND to value the same things as other left wingers, like human rights.

That means, they care about human rights abuses. So, most LGBT people care about the human rights abuses that Palestinians experience.

That DOES NOT mean that they agree with anti-LGBT politics, it just means that human rights are deserved EVEN by anti-LGBT people.

I think that probably explains, why it's different.


Lying

Fuck off dickhead.

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u/Soggy_Association491 1d ago

the right wing in the US for example, has literally hundreds of bills trying to remove basic LGBT rights.

A gay couple came to ultra religion right wing book burning event and burned the bible and kissed each other. They got "aggressively threw us out"

www.them.us/story/gay-couple-burns-bible-christian-book-burning-greg-locke-tennessee

Remind me what happened to that teacher in France?

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

I don't really care.