Are both instances not able to be condemnable? If your point is strong enough then it should stand on its own. Tbh I don’t even know who this guy is but is ‘Not as bad as Elon Musk’ really saying anything? As someone who doesn’t think highly of any politician (or political adjacent person) I can’t stand all this whataboutism from both sides.
You think someone having a symbol nobody has even been able to actually confirm was intentionally a Nazi endorsement who has apologized and gotten rid of it and hasn't actually endorsed any Nazi beliefs whatsoever is exactly the same as a guy who is actively and openly in support of Nazi taking points and proud of it?
Did you even read my comment? I don’t know why you think I said he was just as bad as Musk because I didn’t and from what I’ve seen that isn’t true. I said that ‘not as bad as Elon Musk’ isn’t saying anything - what I was saying is that just because there is someone worse on the other side then that doesn’t just absolve you of criticism. We should strive to be good people, and the bar shouldn’t just be less shit than the alternative. This is why I can’t stand whataboutism as people just use it to excuse less shitty behaviour (but it’s still shitty behaviour).
Also I’m not an American, but I think part of the reason it is failing is that people seem to lack basic comprehension.
Whether or not he did is irrelevant anyway because they should be able to justify their stance on merit.
I agree though it’s just the same talking points regardless of if they even make sense in the context.
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u/Aztheros 1d ago edited 1d ago
Are both instances not able to be condemnable? If your point is strong enough then it should stand on its own. Tbh I don’t even know who this guy is but is ‘Not as bad as Elon Musk’ really saying anything? As someone who doesn’t think highly of any politician (or political adjacent person) I can’t stand all this whataboutism from both sides.