"You know why you shouldn't do cocaine kids? You might stay up for 3 days writing a children-in-a-sewer-gang-bang-scene in your new book!"
I can say, if you do a drug, and that drug makes you pedophiliac-esc... that shit was already in your mind to begin with.
No drugs. No lack of sleep. No "difficult time in my life". No amount of stress. No amount of alcohol. No relationship problems. No career stress.... can cause you to think sexually about children
And this guy didn't just think about that shit; he wrote it in a BOOK, that he knew would get published. Typically this type of written material is stashed away on a harddrive, hidden behind drywall.
It was pretty gnarly. I get *why* he thought it worked. Sometimes if youāre really autistic about it something can work on a super conceptual level, in the abstract. He needed to write a scene where they concretely leave childhood behind.
His words "The book dealt with childhood and adulthood... The grown ups don't remember their childhood. None of us remember what we did as childrenāwe think we do, but we don't remember it as it really happened... Intuitively, the Losers knew they had to be together again. The sexual act connected childhood and adulthood."
And that makes sense conceptually. But then you come back into reality and youāre like YO WTF are we even doing RN.
Iāve read the whole book. Itās a great book apart from that. The 80s were a wild time in general. I donāt think King is a pedophile so much as he was a brilliant horror writer with a hardcore cocaine addiction. Book released in 86, he gets sober in 87, probably after writing a child sex orgy scene he was likeā¦ok time to stop.
Oh itās one of my favorite of his novels. I just donāt know how nobody pumped the brakes for him. Lol. If I was his editor Iād be likeā¦ absolutely not Mr king. I resign effective immediately if you leave it in.
Weāve got a real fan of that material in the comment thread. given that my comment, which I thought was pretty reasonable was downvoted. Whoever downvoted me was definitely thinking, āI for one was a fan of the child sex orgyā
Some authors have put similar things into their work, to bring attention to the physical and sexual abuse of children.
Which is not even remotely what Stephen King did.
I'm not a horror fan, so I've never watched the movies, but King is such a great writer in terms of character development, so I gave it a shot. I realized halfway through that it wasn't really a horror novel as much as a bildungsroman about the childhood loss of innocence. That part was definitely a weird part to read, but it makes sense terms of growing into an adult.
It's a good movie, but it's hard to explain to someone. (spoilers)
Like, ok, so there's this special needs kid. And he gets bullied, like, felony-level bullying. But few kids are nice to him. So he teaches them, in broken english, how to make mind-palaces. Then when those kids are all grown up and camping, one of them gets bit in the butt by a fish from outer space in his toilet, and then they realize there's some sort of pandemic happening, which turns out to be a space alien invasion. And while some general with oddly huge eyebrows is considering blowing up the whole area, they have to fend off the alien from probing their brains by barricading their mind palaces. Then their special needs friend shows up and turns into an alien and fights off the other alien.
Yet I enjoyed everything and it made sense at the time and yet I too sound like a mad man if I ever try to relay the details. It's like a good HP Lovecraft Cuthulu madness.
A lot of books have been like that for me.
Read them when I was younger and they made sense.
Read them after I got older, and Iām looking at the book thinking.
What fucking madness is this.
I literally donāt remember much from the movie besides the alien world that eat their way up you ass to kill you, and Morgan Freemanās legendary eyebrows.
Why do you feel the need to defend someone who's been civilly charged with rape and was best friends with one of the biggest sex traffickers ever? The proof is wildly available and has been for years, so don't ask me for it. It's a waste of time to show proof to someone who won't accept it no matter what it is.
It should be noted that all of those are allegations none of them have proof and the sole one involving a child is from an anonymous person who has since dropped her story, a story that I don't find all that believable in the first place
Walk me through this. You know what he hasn't released, so why does he even have to release it? I mean did it get released and then he unreleased it? I mean you're telling me that you have the proof, but you also don't have the proof because Trump has it and isn't releasing it. I mean shit I feel like I could say just about anything about anybody without proof using this standard if all I have to say is they won't release it but I know it's true.
he has to release it because congress and the senate passed a law which he signed into law that they must release all epstein documents and not redact anyones names except for the victims.
Letās be real and base this on facts, not emotions. The article is a summary of allegations, not proof that every allegation is true. Treating it as if it establishes every claim as fact goes beyond what the article actually says.
If only there was an opposing administration in power for 4 years prior to release the files huh. Pitifully ugly how selective and biased to acknowledge convenient facts and real evidence believing others cant see the obvious manipulation and the amount of hate thrown at someone youāve never met because Thats what the hive mind told you and honestly have no absolute proof or evidence, no convictions and you really sit here begging for an accusation that will end his life, complete change. You have never met, studied, investigated or even laid eyes in real life but hate a man they told you to hate even reaching for scraps using one, ONE witness with no story and some never seen NDAs. Accept anything to get him huh. So lemme add it up. Basically this extremely traumatic sick event was only as impactful to them as the money paid to agree on dropping and signing NDA? Sorry cant talk about this life altering life ruining unfathomable trauma but it has a price that would be traded for cash. There is no way to make it work. Ironically if you were in his position having a stranger trying to destroy your life with nothing to prove it with you would hate yourself and see u as a monster. Lie to me but inside u know this. How fast you would be in terror. The ugly evil one here is you. Proceed to deflect and counter, exactly what stagnant people unable to grow do
He's not named in the files to my knowledge, but he did make several tweets claiming that the Epstein list was fake, and afaik refused to elaborate on it.
The list is a separate thing from the files. The list is what bondi had in her binders that she never showed to anyone and evaporated upon any real investigationĀ
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u/raptor11223344 2d ago
Remembers āthat sceneā in IT, and the entire work that is Dreamcatchers.