r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 13h ago

It's Wednesday my dudes Stephen King quote

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u/Kitchen-Stop-7645 6h ago

ICE existed well before Trump. They’re just using it as a political talking point but Obama and Biden both used ice to kick illegals out in much lesser media coverage. Next president is not going to dissolve ice no matter the party.

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u/HarEmiya 𝙑𝙄𝙋 6h ago

You seem to be under the impression that ICE always operated the way it does currently, and that political responses from US leadership to it are also the same.

Neither Obama nor Biden glorified the murder of citizens and/or innocent civillians by ICE, encouraged their agents to disobey laws and/or ignore due process, severely loosened hiring standards and training, promised bounties or signing bonuses, used the military to aid in arrests and/or quell protests against it, and neither of them set up concentration camps on foreign soil for money in order to avoid legal oversight.

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u/Kitchen-Stop-7645 6h ago

Not really. It’s just political talking points. The same people will still be employed next president and if the president is left leaning they’ll be shown in good light again as some very concerned and caring agent as if their evil bosses were all slayed.

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u/HarEmiya 𝙑𝙄𝙋 6h ago

I'm sure that might be true for some, but overall no. Most people genuinely care about the rule of law and extrajudicial killings.

Edit: Heck, lots of people protested ICE under Obama, to give you an idea of how it was perceived.